How to counter toxic players

LegacyDM

I’ve realized that the community is actually not as toxic as I had thought. I’ve developed a strategy that works against other pvp players. For the past few years I’d get tbagged or taunt tells. My approach would be to put them on ignore and chalk it up to the person being a jerk. But then I thought to myself, what’s going on here. Why are they really tbagging? What’s the psychology behind this? And it came to me and so far it’s worked and I’ve actually made friends .

Beat them up with logic and kindness. Every time I get a tbag I send a tell and say the following, “come on man, really? It was a good fight. I thought you were a really cool guy. Why the tbag? I’m just out here trying to have fun and your a really good player”.

See what I did here? 1. I appealed to the players skill. Which softens them up. 2. More importantly, I appealed to their personality of claiming to be s cool guy. So far every person I’ve done this tactic to has apologized and told me why they were frustrated And the reason for the tbagged. I’ve actually made a few friends this way. In the past, I would have put them on ignore and tbagged them back when I got the chance. Not anymore.

WaltherCarraway

Ignore just like IRL

idk

Ignore them. They feed off replies so the best way to shut them down is just ignore them.

geonsocal

hmmmm, not so sure everyone can be reasoned with...

https://youtu.be/YQEzGSnzi5I

dip dip potato chip...

Cadbury

"Kill 'em with kindness"

Malacthulhu

I am not messaging every nut dipper I come across and I don't care, usually I release long before that. I dont do t-bags I like to keep it classy with emotes.

LegacyDM

Sure. You can ignore. But so far it’s worked. I think most people can be understood if taken the time to talk to them reasonably. If they continue to be s jerk put em on ignore. Nothing lost right? Who knows you may be surprised people are actually reasonable if talked to with respect after they acted immature.

Gilvoth

it suks when you know you were outplayed, several times i tried to come up with a reason how that dude killed me unfairly but no, he was ligit killed me.

but where i get mad is when they come at me after i fairly killed him and he goes out and gets his friends and they gank me 10 v 1 and mass whisper me and all T-Bag me, yeah at first i laughed but honestly it was uncalled for.

or when you see a zerg comin and you do all u can to run like a wild man to escape but the zerg mass kills you and you get like 50 people T-Bag you is just wrong.

and then theres the sload screen T-Bag where your stuck in a sload screen and frozen and you come back to your dead body a dude is T-Bag you. = just wrong

LegacyDM

Malacthulhu wrote: »

I am not messaging every nut dipper I come across and I don't care, usually I release long before that. I dont do t-bags I like to keep it classy with emotes.

Not saying you need to. In my case, I get tbagged by pro players that I’ve seen for years but never talked too and I got tired of it. So I reached out and found out 1. Why they were tbagging, and 2. That they are reasonable people.

N2woR

I had a 2 Players under CP160 in Selenes the other day on vet, 1 dps and the other healer. I was the tank and the other dps cp 520 something. We were both on mic and he was flaming through the whole dungeon, not enough damage, no heals, kick them, etc etc. I watched his rotation on Selens, he didn’t have one. I was in text chat trying to explain mechanics and he was just shouting and random texting, so I called him out on his damage. He linked a defending maelstrom inferno in chat and told me I didnt know anything, so I trolled him! Everytime Selene was about to do her bear attack I’d turn her towards him, I’d pick him up and repeat. He never had the awareness to move .... then I booted him and we completed the dungeon 10 mins later

When low cp players run with you in vet non DLC, 95% of the time there not the problem. Ignore toxicity and play on, Big fish small pond syndrome. There found out eventually

Graydon

I’ve learned that T-baggers are sad individuals seekkig help and attention.

So I send them a tell with a hug and a smile...the panic it creates is hilarious. Also stops any further T-bags.

MLGProPlayer

I'll be honest. I tea bag in almost every game I play. And I only do it to trigger people. Same as typing "gg ez" at the end of a round of Overwatch or another shooter.

People take this *** too seriously. If people lightened up a bit, I would stop doing it. But I get off of the over-the-top reactions from people. That's generally the mentality of 95% of tea baggers.

How to not feed a tea bagger:

1. Ignore tea bagger
2. Come back with something witty that shows you're laid back (you will earn the tea bagger's respect)

Jerkling

t-bagging is childish and sad. if you laugh at them hard and make them realize how pathetic they actually are they shut up real fast or get triggered themselves. also don't forget to call them out on any "you're (just) salty" kind of comment they make.

geonsocal

Malacthulhu wrote: »

I am not messaging every nut dipper I come across and I don't care, usually I release long before that. I dont do t-bags I like to keep it classy with emotes.

yes, like the very classy vomit emote

lately I've taken to lying down next to those stubborn corpses who just have no clue where to rez at...

myself, I'll usually lie there for a bit after dying to see where whatever group/zerg, that may have just mowed me down, is heading next...

those "cuddling/spooning" emotes creep me out a bit - so, figured I'd share that pleasure with others...

Altercator

Tbagging increases Ultimate regen by 20% for 15 seconds.

Cadbury

Demra

I actually did that before but only when they pm me after the tbegging. And it works! Turns our they are just dycks inside.
It didn't help to soften them with compliment and sincerity, they only get more salty but it definitely amused me to pm them with every kill i did and every little adventure or thought i had. I might've got blocked by them eventually but at least for the time being i turned them into my personal diaries.

Malacthulhu

geonsocal wrote: »

Malacthulhu wrote: »

I am not messaging every nut dipper I come across and I don't care, usually I release long before that. I dont do t-bags I like to keep it classy with emotes.

yes, like the very classy vomit emote

lately I've taken to lying down next to those stubborn corpses who just have no clue where to rez at...

myself, I'll usually lie there for a bit after dying to see where whatever group/zerg, that may have just mowed me down, is heading next...

those "cuddling/spooning" emotes creep me out a bit - so, figured I'd share that pleasure with others...

I usually do a come at me bro emote, bc I suck and if it was one on one I would get destroyed lol.

kargen27

I usually stay there for a moment hoping someone will gank them while they are t-bagging me. Sometimes it happens and great joy is had by all. If not I just rez back to the keep and forget about them.

A couple of times when I got t-bagged by a player I knew to be a toxic @$$ I told him his t-bag might be more effective if he were not a Eunuch. The profanity thrown at me then... it was glorious.

I've sent the same player a link to a silky handkerchief when he went on a rant after I got the killing blow on him. That one was great because I was on my healer and he knew it. Again epic profanity!

Mostly though I don't pay attention when it happens and never do it myself.

craftycarper73

laugh and move on, also call them out for what they are, shitbags

jaws343

I don't necessarily mind getting t-bagged if I attempt to gank someone and fail or get outplayed by a player I chase down 1v1. What really gets under my nerves is when I am against 1 or 2 opponents and they can't kill me but 5 of their friends show up and they decide that somehow proves they are better.

Personally, I never t-bag. If it's a fight that I end up relying on others to save me, I just move on. If it was a really good fight that I end up winning, I like to use the Play Dead emote. It's dramatic enough to get a point across without being insulting and childish.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Some of you guys are Charmin soft. It’s a game. Calm down.

Personally I throw water buckets on people, but only when they’ve earned it.

Ragnarock41

How to stop cyberbullying?

Just walk out of the screen. congratz.

Though seriously, this is human psychology 101, of course if you play the ''chill guy'' card, that will grant you many friends, both in real life and in games. Question is do you really want to be in nice terms with those people?

JinMori

Ignore is stupid.

Most of the time it's just a way to avoid confrontation, and actually resolve the problem, it's pathetic, i never put a single person on ignore, if someone says something about me, tells me to *** off or things like that, i make a counterargument, ignore only makes them think like you've lost, because you avoided the conversation. It really is pathetic to be honest.

Most of the time ignore is used like this: you did a terrible job in your role, other people point it out, and ignore list, this is at least what iv'e experienced, i never saw someone actually harassing in this game, like constant spamming, and being offensive all the time, and even if that was the case, i wouldn;t even bother to put him/her on ignore, that's how insignificant he/she is.

geonsocal

JinMori wrote: »

Ignore is stupid.

Most of the time it's just a way to avoid confrontation, and actually resolve the problem, it's pathetic, i never put a single person on ignore, if someone says something about me, tells me to *** offf or things like that, i make a counterargument, ignore only makes them think like you've lost, because you avoided the conversation. It really is pathetic to be honest.

Most of the time ignore is used like this: you did a terrible job in your role, other people point it out, and ignore list, this is at least what iv'e experienced, i never saw someone actually harassing in this game, like constant spamming, and being offensive all the time, and even if that was the case, i wouldn;t even bother to put him/her on ignore, that's how insignificant he/she is.

that was very inspiring...i'm ready to go get in to some *** now...oh wait, sorry, i have another email to write - maybe later...

phileunderx2

I don't t bag but I will spam heals on your corpse.

RubyWarfare

LegacyDM wrote: »

I’ve realized that the community is actually not as toxic as I had thought. I’ve developed a strategy that works against other pvp players. For the past few years I’d get tbagged or taunt tells. My approach would be to put them on ignore and chalk it up to the person being a jerk. But then I thought to myself, what’s going on here. Why are they really tbagging? What’s the psychology behind this? And it came to me and so far it’s worked and I’ve actually made friends .

Beat them up with logic and kindness. Every time I get a tbag I send a tell and say the following, “come on man, really? It was a good fight. I thought you were a really cool guy. Why the tbag? I’m just out here trying to have fun and your a really good player”.

See what I did here? 1. I appealed to the players skill. Which softens them up. 2. More importantly, I appealed to their personality of claiming to be s cool guy. So far every person I’ve done this tactic to has apologized and told me why they were frustrated And the reason for the tbagged. I’ve actually made a few friends this way. In the past, I would have put them on ignore and tbagged them back when I got the chance. Not anymore.

Okay care to share why some people do this without naming any names? I am curious. What excuse to people have for doing such a vile thing? I know I am "charmin soft" and a care bear and "take things WAY too seriously" and whatever other funtime insults people want to throw, but I have reasons for having such a violent hatred for teabagging that I do not wish to get into here. So if you actually have the answers as to why people do this, I would dearly love to know.

maboleth

Cadbury wrote: »

"Kill 'em with kindness"

Believe me, I tried. However they tried to break and insult me, I was even more kind.

And you know what?

It worked. Sort of. They did calm down, some even started joking, but some just wrote long stories about their miserable life or frustrations they've seen in RL or Cyrodiil. As expected, but I did spend my time longer than I thought.

Minyassa

"I do it to trigger people" says it all. These people actually enjoy being a cause of stress. They get off on causing upset. They lack basic human empathy.

RubyWarfare

Minyassa wrote: »

"I do it to trigger people" says it all. These people actually enjoy being a cause of stress. They get off on causing upset. They lack basic human empathy.

This is exactly how I have felt. I have been accused pretty much my whole life of taking things far too seriously and people seem to have some sort of visceral fear of that. I never understood why. What is it about being serious that causes such fuming hatred to spew out of people? Is it because people do not want to be responsible for causing hurt to others? Yes, this is just a game, but as I have said in other threads, this is something I do for fun. To relax. Not to play dodge the troll whose war cry is "IT IS JUST A GAME CAREBEAR SOFTIE THE WORLD IS EVIL AND WE FEED OFF OF YOOOU" People like this are why I avoid PUGs and PVP. I know there are bullies everywhere, but why should I actually put myself out there into their stomping grounds? Hearing the OPs answers he or she received from tebaggers beyond "it is just to get a rise" does interest me. I want to think there is some reason beyond that they are just simply bad people who enjoy virtual sexual harassment because that is the only way they can ever feel powerful.

LegacyDM

RubyWarfare wrote: »

LegacyDM wrote: »

I’ve realized that the community is actually not as toxic as I had thought. I’ve developed a strategy that works against other pvp players. For the past few years I’d get tbagged or taunt tells. My approach would be to put them on ignore and chalk it up to the person being a jerk. But then I thought to myself, what’s going on here. Why are they really tbagging? What’s the psychology behind this? And it came to me and so far it’s worked and I’ve actually made friends .

Beat them up with logic and kindness. Every time I get a tbag I send a tell and say the following, “come on man, really? It was a good fight. I thought you were a really cool guy. Why the tbag? I’m just out here trying to have fun and your a really good player”.

See what I did here? 1. I appealed to the players skill. Which softens them up. 2. More importantly, I appealed to their personality of claiming to be s cool guy. So far every person I’ve done this tactic to has apologized and told me why they were frustrated And the reason for the tbagged. I’ve actually made a few friends this way. In the past, I would have put them on ignore and tbagged them back when I got the chance. Not anymore.

Okay care to share why some people do this without naming any names? I am curious. What excuse to people have for doing such a vile thing? I know I am "charmin soft" and a care bear and "take things WAY too seriously" and whatever other funtime insults people want to throw, but I have reasons for having such a violent hatred for teabagging that I do not wish to get into here. So if you actually have the answers as to why people do this, I would dearly love to know.

Major source is frustration. First Mainly from being xv1. Second from being marked and or from sloads. I don’t run sloads but it was a common complaint. Remember both types of players whether your a carebear or a bully take the game seriously. The bullies tend to take out their frustration with tbags. If you are nice about confronting them about it, in my experience they tend to apologize and back down. The other type of player is the one that tbags everyone just for fun. You just gotta laugh with those people and show your chill and they will generally leave you alone.