Will Zos fix pvp

wibbz

I am bored with pvp due to zos forcing me to play stuff i dont want. So Anyone know if zos will fix the permablocking builds that heal and do good dmg or is it time that i join them? (Sems like everyone is one now adays)or am i forced to be a zergling because i want to play the way i want to play? Or is it time to dropp it and go pve

Dredlord

Yes, not now....soon!

Reverb

They will not

davey1107

#NewDevTeam

zParallaxz

Lol” no eta” aka go find another game

IZZEFlameLash

Fix is coming "next update".

CerebralNoise

I mean, they took the entire server's offline to fix the PvE geysers in Summerset.....but we haven't had an update to Cryodiil in years (multicore update doesn't count, because performance has only gotten worse imo).

If that doesn't scream "We don't care about PvP" I don't know what does lol

ak_pvp

Yesn't.

usmguy1234

https://youtu.be/cOCD_Jzre3c

Valen_Byte

Working as intended

Starlight_Knight

i think they realise that competitive pvp is somthing that ESO wont ever acheive so now they're just going along with it like ...."YEAAA HAVE A ZANN PROC AND SOME SLOADS WOOOOOOOO MAJOR DEFILE YAAAAY"

Twohothardware

You should probably rethink your build if you're getting killed much by perma blockers. The strongest classes in PvP are StamNB and MagSorc and neither perma block.

ATomiX96

yea pvp fixes comming soon (*)


*somewhere between a year and the end of eso's life cycle, took them two and a half years to remove aoe caps

amir412

usmguy1234 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/cOCD_Jzre3c

XDDD I laughed so hard man

Sergykid

even if you do their job and create an ample report and statistics regarding balance and population's behaviour, it will be ignored into oblivion.

IZZEFlameLash

I think ZOS is 'fixing' in the other way. Ya know... ehem. They want us to not proliferate clearly by 'fixing' and giving us cancers.

Ceepax

davey1107 wrote: »

#NewDevTeam

#OldDevTeam

The ones responsible for the original state of the game (dynamic ultimate etc.)

Vapirko

Imo its less a question of "will they," and more a question of "can they?" You have to think about all the things that would need to be looked at when we say "fix PvP." The bugs in PvP are so numerous right now that it seems possible they wouldn't be able to address them all without taking the game offline for a good chunk of time and dumping most of their resources into it, something they aren't going to do. They would also likely need to upgrade their servers and/or look into node robustness as some have suggested. This would be a huge cost on their part for an aspect of the game that does not make money. That all providing that they can even fix everything at this point, given how long they have let some of these issues slide and how deeply buried some of them are. And that's even before we get to the issue of combat balance, and not just nerfs and buffs but real balance between classes, between group size and play styles. They've kind of missed their chance to say ok look, were going to balance PvP and PvE separately like we should have or the CP point system isn't viable long term and even though no CP is an option, the abilities created around a CP system are too OP in no CP and so on. So will they fix PvP? No. There's a chance they'll make some improvements but that's going to be about it, and it will always be in a state of flux between decent gameplay and horrible lag with some OP meta.

Waffennacht

When you say "fix problems" do you really mean, "change things I dislike" ?

wibbz

Twohothardware wrote: »

You should probably rethink your build if you're getting killed much by perma blockers. The strongest classes in PvP are StamNB and MagSorc and neither perma block.

Well i dont know, i am a full dmg build my def is *** but my dmg is ok but if i go up against a dk that can block for ever and they can at the same time put out some good dmg i dont have much chanse. But ye i think you are right i will most prob do like everyone else and copy blob......

wibbz

Waffennacht wrote: »

When you say "fix problems" do you really mean, "change things I dislike" ?

No, if you think the game is ok at this state. U have a cancer build or u dont know anything mate

zParallaxz

wibbz wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

When you say "fix problems" do you really mean, "change things I dislike" ?

No, if you think the game is ok at this state. U have a cancer build or u dont know anything mate

Aye that’s not, there are still those who come on the game every now and then and can out play many without cheese.

Thogard

wibbz wrote: »

I am bored with pvp due to zos forcing me to play stuff i dont want. So Anyone know if zos will fix the permablocking builds that heal and do good dmg or is it time that i join them? (Sems like everyone is one now adays)or am i forced to be a zergling because i want to play the way i want to play? Or is it time to dropp it and go pve

They fixed all those things. That's how we got the current state of PvP, which is the worst It's ever been.

Never have so many bad players been this relevant. Never has skillful play been so meaningless in the face of dots and autoapplied status effects. Never has teh winner of a group vs group fight been so dependent on who has a templar for purifies...

I miss when the game was skill based. I miss when the winner of a fight was determined by who landed a relentless, a crystal frag, a dizzy swing, a sub assault... things that require skill to land and require skill to counter.

now it's all master DW axe bleeds, sloads, duroks, resource poisons, viper (who thought it'd come back?), spin2win, and caluurions.

What do all of those things have in common? None of them require any skill to use. There's no channel, no alerts, no skillful counter.

Hopefully this *** gets fixed. But i doubt it will, because with this patch ZOS finally has what it wants - bad players being relevant.

wibbz

Thogard wrote: »

wibbz wrote: »

I am bored with pvp due to zos forcing me to play stuff i dont want. So Anyone know if zos will fix the permablocking builds that heal and do good dmg or is it time that i join them? (Sems like everyone is one now adays)or am i forced to be a zergling because i want to play the way i want to play? Or is it time to dropp it and go pve

They fixed all those things. That's how we got the current state of PvP, which is the worst It's ever been.

Never have so many bad players been this relevant. Never has skillful play been so meaningless in the face of dots and autoapplied status effects. Never has teh winner of a group vs group fight been so dependent on who has a templar for purifies...

I miss when the game was skill based. I miss when the winner of a fight was determined by who landed a relentless, a crystal frag, a dizzy swing, a sub assault... things that require skill to land and require skill to counter.

now it's all master DW axe bleeds, sloads, duroks, resource poisons, viper (who thought it'd come back?), spin2win, and caluurions.

What do all of those things have in common? None of them require any skill to use. There's no channel, no alerts, no skillful counter.

Hopefully this *** gets fixed. But i doubt it will, because with this patch ZOS finally has what it wants - bad players being relevant.

I have played since release and i think the pvp was ok in the begining and gotten worse over time and now its just messed up, they have tryed to fix this but have never manage to do it sadly . Im not considering my self a bad player, its just that i love bow and i have been running bow/bow since forever it feels like and i have been able to 1v1 and 1vx with it before beleve it or not. But now you have to have a sertan gear set to pvp and most of the time its not for bow, and no i dont want to be a gankblade just because i use bow i want to be able to play like i have been before and not mest a group of dks with s&b that just block and dot me up and watch me die.
Atm i guess i am stuck with hanging around a zerg but with summerset i have some new options atleast so maybe it will get better (i play Ps4 so it is release today)

Koensol

Thogard wrote: »

wibbz wrote: »

I am bored with pvp due to zos forcing me to play stuff i dont want. So Anyone know if zos will fix the permablocking builds that heal and do good dmg or is it time that i join them? (Sems like everyone is one now adays)or am i forced to be a zergling because i want to play the way i want to play? Or is it time to dropp it and go pve

They fixed all those things. That's how we got the current state of PvP, which is the worst It's ever been.

Never have so many bad players been this relevant. Never has skillful play been so meaningless in the face of dots and autoapplied status effects. Never has teh winner of a group vs group fight been so dependent on who has a templar for purifies...

I miss when the game was skill based. I miss when the winner of a fight was determined by who landed a relentless, a crystal frag, a dizzy swing, a sub assault... things that require skill to land and require skill to counter.

now it's all master DW axe bleeds, sloads, duroks, resource poisons, viper (who thought it'd come back?), spin2win, and caluurions.

What do all of those things have in common? None of them require any skill to use. There's no channel, no alerts, no skillful counter.

Hopefully this *** gets fixed. But i doubt it will, because with this patch ZOS finally has what it wants - bad players being relevant.

Completely agree. I mean before this patch I could more than hold my own in 1vx and solo play and consistently score well in BG's. This patch is just a complete disaster. BG's are all about who 1 shots who first. In open world you are pumped full of sloads and other crap you just cannot avoid... The amount of damage you can receive from just 2 players is absolutely unreal at the moment. They completely destroyed balance to a pathetic level. Please give us back the patch after the viper nerf (forgot which one that was). Pvp was a lot more fun back then.

Palidon

With their current track record on the PvP problems. No way.

Feanor

@Thogard

You echo my opinion, but at this point it seems to me @ZOS_BrianWheeler isn’t involved in the game’s itemization (or he doesn’t actually care?). Because the correct way to do this is asking your PvP Lead Designer what impact new sets or set changes will have on the existing PvP game modes.

Frankly, any semblance of a skill based game vanished a long time ago. A lot of really good players left in the Viper era or even before that. Since then every effort was made to gain a broader audience and to cater to the lowest common denominator mostly. Skilled gameplay isn’t something ZOS is interested in, not for most of PvE and certainly not in PvP.

Elder Procs and Bleeds Online is just the consequence and the pinnacle we’ve reached now.

Gnozo

At the current state of the game PvP means procset vs procset and not player vs player.....

I addition to this u get insane lag wich no one ever saw in an other mmorpg.....

Its so sad cause the game could be the number 1 mmorpg for pvp when they would at least fix some things. I Made a Thread about my ideas but sadly it doesnt catched much attention: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/417373/how-to-improve-balance-server-performance-cyrodiil-population-and-more#latest

usmguy1234

amir412 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/cOCD_Jzre3c

XDDD I laughed so hard man

I laughed then cried. The crying part came when I realized that most of the "no eta" parts were from completely different interviews.

ezeepeezee

The sad thing is, you really have to focus on front-loaded burst in this game (if you're solo -- in groups you can just spam AoE), not because it's necessarily the most effective, but because it's the most effective given the extreme server latency.

So many builds and playstyles are at least partially designed to compensate for the insane lag that it really doesn't surprise me that they've just said "f it, give them free damage and call it a day."

terrannova

they dont care about pvp obviously