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Greevir

Yes, it is allowed

If I send someone a gift from the crown store, why shouldn't I receive gold from them as a thank you?

Ackwalan

Greevir wrote: »

If I send someone a gift from the crown store, why shouldn't I receive gold from them as a thank you?

Kind of like the RPing that took place around the outpost during double AP.

Jayman1000

No, it is not allowed

Lakashi wrote: »

It says right in the TOS:

"Any Virtual Currency balance shown in Your Account does not constitute a real currency balance or reflect any monetary value."

"Virtual Currency will only be used by You to obtain virtual goods within a Game (e.g., durable goods that become part of Your inventory in the Game and consumable or single use items that are used and expire after use within the Game)"

Crowns are a virtual currency. They have NO monetary real-world value. Their purpose is to obtain in-game virtual goods.
It is not gold selling, since there is ABSOLUTELY NO real-world money being exchanged by the players.

But it could constitute gold buying? You can spend unlimited amounts of real life cash buying crowns to buy unlimited amounts of gold for. But it guess then that ZOS would be ok with that after all, since they would be earning cash from more crown sales. Maybe they actually want to go full out gold selling in the store but dare not because of community anger, and that may be why they are silent when someone asks them about it. But secretly they are grubbing their hands

DoctorESO

Yes, it is allowed

Tandor wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Seems the majority of people so far think it's allowed.

Look beyond their votes. Two people (including you) hope it's allowed, one hasn't seen ZOS say that it isn't allowed. That's three people (including you) in total, with a fourth person quoting the terms of service in support of it not being allowed.

Hardly a ringing endorsement for the practice! Nor is it an indication that "the majority of people so far think it's allowed."

Why not put in a ticket or PM Gina and ask?

I will ping Gina Bruno.

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you advise?

I will also put in a support ticket.

DanteYoda

Yes, it is allowed

Its not real money trading.. its gifting both ways..

And lastly be very careful who you gift with, make sure you trust them or are happy with just giving them a present.

Colecovision

Yes, it is allowed

DoctorESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Seems the majority of people so far think it's allowed.

Look beyond their votes. Two people (including you) hope it's allowed, one hasn't seen ZOS say that it isn't allowed. That's three people (including you) in total, with a fourth person quoting the terms of service in support of it not being allowed.

Hardly a ringing endorsement for the practice! Nor is it an indication that "the majority of people so far think it's allowed."

Why not put in a ticket or PM Gina and ask?

I will ping Gina Bruno.

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you advise?

I will also put in a support ticket.

I'm sure this will be her first time to see the issue exists. : P

I really doubt they can respond here. If they say yes, then they need to have a system in place with the ability to resolve problems. If they say no, they need to add it to the ToS properly and then have some plan to enforce it.

If they say nothing, they get to keep the sales of the crowns, offer no solutions to problems and then have the ability to shut it down later without backtracking.

Elsonso

Colecovision wrote: »

If they say nothing, they get to keep the sales of the crowns, offer no solutions to problems and then have the ability to shut it down later without backtracking.

This. Schrödinger's TOS. As long as don't answer the question, it is both acceptable and prohibited They don't have to decide. They can let it be indeterminate until something comes along that requires a determination.

DoctorESO

Yes, it is allowed

To close the loop on this thread:

57% think yes, it is allowed.
43% think no, it is not allowed.

ZOS has given their official response: It is not allowed. See https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/417563/zos-official-response-on-whether-trading-gold-for-crowns-crown-store-items-is-allowed and feel free to continue the discussion there.