sloads is broken, like old viper. please nerf

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

i think everyone agree's that sloads is beyond broken, i dont know why this set even exists. we dont need more procs and what we for sure dont need are things without any counterplay and there is zero counterplay against someone using sloads.

Ankael07

What was the suggestion people graciously gave to sorcerers regarding Shieldbreaker? Just slot a HOT and outheal!
Forum community can be such hypocrites

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

you cant really outheal this, cause its not only the sloads damage. problem is sloads on top of the normal damage you are getting

IlCanis_LupuslI

Cant wait for it on Console sigh... Thank god im a argonian and can heal through all kinds of stuff
Argonian Stamblade ftw! :-D
Serioulsy im dreading this set on console, thank god the Caluurion’s Legacy proc meta passed over Console pretty much(ive never seen it in my death recap ) even the Zaan epidemic was pretty moderate imo...
I doubt it but this set sounds seriously op a and its craftable which means every idiot will have access to it

ll_Rev

Ankael07 wrote: »

What was the suggestion people graciously gave to sorcerers regarding Shieldbreaker? Just slot a HOT and outheal!
Forum community can be such hypocrites

Slot a HOT such as vigor which will do 1.5k a second, which means you’d only have 600 a sec to “outheal” any other incoming dmg.... Ok

Strider__Roshin

In a game where Zaan exists this thing is a tickle at best. I'm not downplaying this set for it is strong, I'm just pointing out that there's much bigger fish to fry.

Strider__Roshin

I should also point out that Caluurion does more damage instantly than this set does in 6 seconds.

ll_Rev

Daus wrote: »

I should also point out that Caluurion does more damage instantly than this set does in 6 seconds.

6k dmg every 10 seconds. Can be mitigated and lessened by resistances. Seems trash to me.

Strider__Roshin

ll_Rev wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

I should also point out that Caluurion does more damage instantly than this set does in 6 seconds.

6k dmg every 10 seconds. Can be mitigated and lessened by resistances. Seems trash to me.

When Viper's did 3-4k instantly it was OP, but when it was nerfed to doing the same damage over 4 seconds it became trash. Love the consistency.

LeagueTroll

It’s broken if the dmg is doubled.

PRIMEVAL_GENGAR

Sloads + shackle .....mag dk with s+b abd zaan.....im not a scrub i swear :-p

jaws343

Fights against good players shouldn't last 6 seconds. And less than 6K damage is nothing. So you go from 25K health to 19K health after 6 seconds. If you can't mitigate that little of health being lost in 6 seconds, how do you handle burst? The player you are fighting who is using this set still has to burst the remaining 19K health you have, or your shield and then the remaining 19k health. And unless they are running this and another damage set, with zero defense, they aren't going to have a great burst.

And if multiple people are attacking you with this, you were going to die anyways to whatever other sets those same players were going to spam you with.

shinikaze

Aren't we being a little overdramatic, sloads is strong, but so freaking far away from old viper strong.

Vein667

So when ZOS increasing same sorc`s shields "yes, please! please do this ZOS!" but when they include some more sets to fight against such boring unkillable players they need instantly nerf it? Really?

TequilaFire

Now, now those sorcs stacking stronger shields are using "skill".

lazerlaz

It's like 5k damage over 6 seconds. Not a big deal folks!

Nyladreas

Nah.

JWillCHS

Can't Sload be purged? I swear on my magplar I used Extended Ritual to remove it.

Lunatic_Dizzy

Well, that didn't take long...

josiahva

(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Damaging an enemy has a 10% chance to put a Leeching Shadow on them, dealing 853 Oblivion Damage every 1 second for 6 seconds. This effect can occur every 6 seconds

So...basic math here... 853x6= 5118 damage TOTAL, over 6 seconds....even the lowest health builds in Cyrodiil have 18k health...so the most this proc can do is 28% of a person's health. Can we agree the math is correct so far? Its true I havent yet played with Sload's, does battle spirit halve this damage as it halves all damage in Cyrodiil? If so, then its really doing 2559 damage over 6 seconds, or 426 damage per second if(and its a big if) the user can keep 100% uptime...seems unlikely with a 10% proc chance. You know what can outheal a sload proc? Virtually every single HOT in the game. I personally dislike proc sets that have no counter-play outside of healing through them, but as far as I can see, this set isnt overpowered. I see the same thing every time a new proc set comes out...people see it on their death cap, freak out and call it overpowered, while ignoring everything else on their death cap that killed them, old favorites like poison injection are completely ignored for them to whine endlessly about this proc set or that proc set. I have seen sloads on my recap about as often as Zaan...once in a blue moon, but the whinging over both is endless.

Waffennacht

@josiahva like 6 threads and we still gotta say. Oblivion damage is not halved, is not mitigated, is not blocked, goes past Shields and breaks cloak

Feanor

Its true I havent yet played with Sload's, does battle spirit halve this damage as it halves all damage in Cyrodiil?

No it doesn’t, just as with all other sources of oblivion damage. The whole point is that there is no other form of mitigation than trying to heal through.

Nobody ever said the problem was you could get killed by Sload on its own. It’s the added pressure and the fact you can stack it that makes it so problematic.

Dreyloch

PRIMEVAL_GENGAR wrote: »

Sloads + shackle .....mag dk with s+b abd zaan.....im not a scrub i swear :-p

This doesn't even make sense unless you can make jewelry for one of those sets, or be missing the 4-5th set bonus on one of them.

mikey_reach

Like most things in the game on its own does'nt look like much. Add the fact that if it procs you know you will get about 5k damage in at the end of 6 seconds, and what you end up having is a stronger burst window when it procs. For example lets say a magdk with shackle and sload have all your dots up or whatever it is that they do, wait for sload proc which should be almost instant with dots and then leap by the time they break free if they didnt block one whip would suffice. So what im understanding is that the only thing bad about the set is that its free guaranteed damage like zaan. Free damage= cheese, no?

mb10

Will continue to be OP until the next patch where they nerf it and release a new OP set so everyone can buy the DLC


Rinse, repeat

ezio45

this set is ridiculous, it never should have been added it the first place and anyone defending this is just looking for cheap over powered sets to make there life easy with 0 f**** given about balance.

This is basically a constant proc chance, isnt effected by any type of mitigation. Anyone tried out healing this set while defiled or with res poisons on you? cause you cant. Never mind the fact that some classes dont even have a decent heal for pvp. Stam, completely screwed, vigor cant compete with this. Sorcs, stam and mag are doa, theyve got the lowest health and no pvp heal other than healing ward which isnt going to help at all with this. I dont care if you absolutely hate mag sorcs you cant tell me that a set a class stands 0 chance against is balanced.

templesus

Procs and oblivion damage shouldn’t be in the game, period.

rustic_potato

Learn to play mate. If you are getting killed by a very low damage DOT in PVP either you have a pure glass cannon build without defenses (slot a HoT to out heal the damage) or you are trying to 1vX in a situation which requires you to be dead. Either way the set is a niche one for certain builds and not even remotely close to being overpowered.

Milvan

Wait until Summerset hits consoles. They are ways very energetic about nerfing everything.

Silver_Strider

Milvan wrote: »

Wait until Summerset hits consoles. They are ways very energetic about nerfing everything.

I eagerly await the day everyone on PvP decides to slot Sloads. They're giving up damage/resistance for a s*** DoT.

Sounds like easy AP to me.

Gilvoth

the point is it removes nightblades ability to cloak, if that is intentional then it is game breaking and removes by Force nightblades built in abilities and defenses. = Game over for nightblades