Narvuntien wrote: »There are the coral forests and there are rolling hills and some craggy area's.. its environments are not as varied as Vvaadenfel but it is also a lot less flat than Vvaadenfel so it is better in other ways.
I am still impressed with the area and I have been enjoying my time there.
I was very wary about Summerset’s environment before release and concerned about the architecture and lore. But I have to say it is beautiful and actually much more elven than I expected. The cities are not radically different from one another but are subtly so. The use of vertical space is great and there are many Altmer ‘motifs’ in the buildings such as the windows, doors etc - and sheer beauty of the place. I am really impressed with the amount of beautiful small details - the shrines, the greenhouses, alcoves etc.
The coral is impressive and certainly not dead grey scatterings.
I love it and my opinion is a 180 degree turnaround from pre release.
Narvuntien wrote: »Also I will note that there are a lot less locked doors than there was in vvaadenfel. Shimerene and Llandril have plenty of houses to break into feels a lot more lived in.
Alinor has quite a few more locked doors but nowhere the level of what we got in the cities in vvaadenfel.
I think its important to note that Vvaadenfel is kind of the backwaters of Morrowind (It was not that relevant until Vivec built his city there kind of like Canberra or Brasilia) where as Summerset is the heart and so it is a lot more urban and inhabited.
Ajaxandriel wrote: »To be fair after having explored all the region...
Well obviously it lacks a bit more diversity, all the more comparing to Vvardenfell (grassland, woods, ashlands, lava) or Wrothgar (snow or not)
But eventually I could find different landscapes in Summerset and subtle nuances of climate according to altitude.
Normal coast : limestone shore and cliffs (here near Sunhold)
Coral forest : beach and reefs (here noth coast near the Direnni Geyser)
Flowering pastures (Russafield)
Vineyards (Russafield)
Gardens (road northeast from Alinor)
Scattered woods (here in Gryphon Aerie)
Resinous woods (mountains near Sunhold)
Dense temperate forest and "bocage" hedges (Ebon Stadmont, my favorite landscape in the whole region, so immersive!)
Montain rockeries (King's Heaven)
Windy summits (Cloudrest)
If one looks out from the ramparts, he'll see the hardly-textured ground of (mountain) pastures with some trees. This landscape should be expanded and open to access in the future - but here I speak for one as a fan X)
Pure-Snow Indrik
Some find it strange that the Pure-Snow Indrik should exist in Summerset, where winter never comes, but as the Sapiarch of Elemental Arcana points out, "Frost magic works everywhere."
Ajaxandriel wrote: »Yes definitely the Summerset ESO chapter is set during spring-summer, like the real life date of release
So we can imagine the same place in winter, with the higher parts with snow and thus a different landscape
Ah... a season system would be nice indeed ... But let's be realistic, they should work for the actual weather system of Homestead and fix it first!
That's why I thought that some instanced place(s) - like an estate released this winter by chance - may be fit for a snowy landscape in Summerset
xclassgaming wrote: »Ajaxandriel wrote: »Yes definitely the Summerset ESO chapter is set during spring-summer, like the real life date of release
So we can imagine the same place in winter, with the higher parts with snow and thus a different landscape
Ah... a season system would be nice indeed ... But let's be realistic, they should work for the actual weather system of Homestead and fix it first!
That's why I thought that some instanced place(s) - like an estate released this winter by chance - may be fit for a snowy landscape in Summerset
Someone should make a post about this, a season system, that would be pretty cool!
Sincexclassgaming wrote: »Ajaxandriel wrote: »Yes definitely the Summerset ESO chapter is set during spring-summer, like the real life date of release
So we can imagine the same place in winter, with the higher parts with snow and thus a different landscape
Ah... a season system would be nice indeed ... But let's be realistic, they should work for the actual weather system of Homestead and fix it first!
That's why I thought that some instanced place(s) - like an estate released this winter by chance - may be fit for a snowy landscape in Summerset
Someone should make a post about this, a season system, that would be pretty cool!
Since Towers controlling weather, (check lore) you cannot really make winter in Summerset. Also as would be in reality. Maximum 3 season would be there. Cold, warm, and something between it. Beside check the Nirn map. Summerset is nearly at the planetary equator.
Ajaxandriel wrote: »Sincexclassgaming wrote: »Ajaxandriel wrote: »Yes definitely the Summerset ESO chapter is set during spring-summer, like the real life date of release
So we can imagine the same place in winter, with the higher parts with snow and thus a different landscape
Ah... a season system would be nice indeed ... But let's be realistic, they should work for the actual weather system of Homestead and fix it first!
That's why I thought that some instanced place(s) - like an estate released this winter by chance - may be fit for a snowy landscape in Summerset
Someone should make a post about this, a season system, that would be pretty cool!
Since Towers controlling weather, (check lore) you cannot really make winter in Summerset. Also as would be in reality. Maximum 3 season would be there. Cold, warm, and something between it. Beside check the Nirn map. Summerset is nearly at the planetary equator.
Fan theory statements... So it can be otherwise.
And the weather controlling Towers part is more backed but still, in-universe theory (Cinnabar's and so on), therefore debatable
just look at this map. there is no fan theory in this my boy. the map ofc is not real.
And the towers description also on uespwiki.
Note: the following references are not from official sources. They are included to provide a rounder background to this article, but may not reflect established lore.
Ajaxandriel wrote: »Sincexclassgaming wrote: »Ajaxandriel wrote: »Yes definitely the Summerset ESO chapter is set during spring-summer, like the real life date of release
So we can imagine the same place in winter, with the higher parts with snow and thus a different landscape
Ah... a season system would be nice indeed ... But let's be realistic, they should work for the actual weather system of Homestead and fix it first!
That's why I thought that some instanced place(s) - like an estate released this winter by chance - may be fit for a snowy landscape in Summerset
Someone should make a post about this, a season system, that would be pretty cool!
Since Towers controlling weather, (check lore) you cannot really make winter in Summerset. Also as would be in reality. Maximum 3 season would be there. Cold, warm, and something between it. Beside check the Nirn map. Summerset is nearly at the planetary equator.
Fan theory statements... So it can be otherwise.
And the weather controlling Towers part is more backed but still, in-universe theory (Cinnabar's and so on), therefore debatable
just look at this map. there is no fan theory in this my boy. the map ofc is not real. but it is exactly as it is. history dont lie. there are more continents rather than just simply tamriel.
And the towers description also on uespwiki. look after it. and anyway even summerset story tells it to. summerset was owned by sloads before. sloads had different world. aldmeris came. summerset become to their best vision. (tower made it). Anyway still the equator is still there. grahtwood, lizardland and summersets are all warm areas. at north. you have orc wonderland with skyrim and morrowind. mind is where everything. even desert. but desert because of the mountains.
WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »just look at this map. there is no fan theory in this my boy. the map ofc is not real.
You're contradicting yourself rather badly here. When you know the map is fake then by definition it can't be taken as fact.And the towers description also on uespwiki.
While a lot of the wiki's content is text copied from the games the Tower Lore page isn't one of them, it's someone's write-up of multiple sources, some of which are specifically noted as not necessarily being canon. There's even a little note at the bottom warning about this:Note: the following references are not from official sources. They are included to provide a rounder background to this article, but may not reflect established lore.
Take a look.
Huh... History might not lie, even when recorded by the victors, but you blatantly do, muh boi. Well...thanks for the fine trolling!Ajaxandriel wrote: »Sincexclassgaming wrote: »Ajaxandriel wrote: »Yes definitely the Summerset ESO chapter is set during spring-summer, like the real life date of release
So we can imagine the same place in winter, with the higher parts with snow and thus a different landscape
Ah... a season system would be nice indeed ... But let's be realistic, they should work for the actual weather system of Homestead and fix it first!
That's why I thought that some instanced place(s) - like an estate released this winter by chance - may be fit for a snowy landscape in Summerset
Someone should make a post about this, a season system, that would be pretty cool!
Since Towers controlling weather, (check lore) you cannot really make winter in Summerset. Also as would be in reality. Maximum 3 season would be there. Cold, warm, and something between it. Beside check the Nirn map. Summerset is nearly at the planetary equator.
Fan theory statements... So it can be otherwise.
And the weather controlling Towers part is more backed but still, in-universe theory (Cinnabar's and so on), therefore debatable
just look at this map. there is no fan theory in this my boy. the map ofc is not real. but it is exactly as it is. history dont lie. there are more continents rather than just simply tamriel.
Definitely not sure if obvious trolling or genuine whining in front of the collapse of one's previous fan-certainties...WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »just look at this map. there is no fan theory in this my boy. the map ofc is not real.
You're contradicting yourself rather badly here. When you know the map is fake then by definition it can't be taken as fact.And the towers description also on uespwiki.
While a lot of the wiki's content is text copied from the games the Tower Lore page isn't one of them, it's someone's write-up of multiple sources, some of which are specifically noted as not necessarily being canon. There's even a little note at the bottom warning about this:Note: the following references are not from official sources. They are included to provide a rounder background to this article, but may not reflect established lore.
Take a look.
until somebody not deleting that. that is the 'truth'. mah boy. and anyway. rly. you have no better stuff to do than destroying someones vision? lol. im here to help them. not to destroy immersion like you do ...
On the highest pinnacles of Eton Nir, where the snow never melts, live the pale Snowcap Gryphons. Perfectly camouflaged for a life in the clouds, for most of the First Era they were considered to be a myth. No longer!
The Snowcap Fledgling Gryphon was a reward for participating in the December gift-giving event. Qualifying players received this pet earlier in January. It will be available for all players to purchase from the Crown Store on all platforms for a limited time, from January 31 to February 4 at 10am EST.
Ajaxandriel wrote: »Something disturbed me one step further regarding the "lost" snows of Summerset.
I was just checking the Indrik flavor texts datamined on this page https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Nascent_IndrikPure-Snow Indrik
Some find it strange that the Pure-Snow Indrik should exist in Summerset, where winter never comes, but as the Sapiarch of Elemental Arcana points out, "Frost magic works everywhere."
- ...Where winter never comes?
Really, so that's it?
I do find strange that winter would never come to Eton Nir summits, and that some find it strange that the Pure-Snow Indrik should exist, to begin with!
Ajaxandriel wrote: »OMG - fellow loreseekers, some flavour text just did my day.
Look at this piece of pure refined awesomeness:
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/55465
On the highest pinnacles of Eton Nir, where the snow never melts, live the pale Snowcap Gryphons. Perfectly camouflaged for a life in the clouds, for most of the First Era they were considered to be a myth. No longer!
The Snowcap Fledgling Gryphon was a reward for participating in the December gift-giving event. Qualifying players received this pet earlier in January. It will be available for all players to purchase from the Crown Store on all platforms for a limited time, from January 31 to February 4 at 10am EST.
Seems like someone in the lore dpt. may have read this thread eventually haha (or it's a fine coincidence)
(I can't wait for getting this pet after-tomorrow, maybe it was the best invested 1000 crowns in my whole game )
So, we definitely did not see the whole of the Eton Nir massif. So the underwhelming beheaded peak that is behind the raid instance is not "Eton Nir" in full.
So Summerset lands still retains parts of mystery to be seen...
To anyone who wrote or reviewed this flavor text : thank you so much!