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So we finally got confirmation on what constitutes a master crafter and it is not 9 trait...

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  • Edaphon
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    Xoelarasizerer wrote: »
    I am hoping the Skyforge Hammer outfit will add to the collections and not be exclusive to your grand master crafter, considering my main crafting character is a mage (the title will be more than enough for them whereas I'd like a toon to get to use the hammer.)

    Once unlocked you can use the hammer on all of your characters.

  • POps75p
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    Royaji wrote: »
    POps75p wrote: »
    I currently can make every motif that in the game all 63 or what ever the amount is, can I assume that I don't have to do it again on a different toon?

    As any achievement, it will be character based. So you will get the credit for that character but not for anyone else.

    that's fine, although I do have 15 diff players, all are level 50 crafters, but only the one has all of the motif's, so i'm fine with only that one getting the master crafter thing. tks
  • PlagueSD
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    All I'll need is this to get it. I already have the other achieves:

    Jewelry Trait Master (Learn all Jewelry Crafting Traits)


    gonna take FOREVER...
  • Slick_007
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    Xoelarasizerer wrote: »
    Atm, I think pre-Summerset there are 60 (Worm Cult being no.60)

    53,58,59 are not in yet.
  • Armatesz
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Any pics of that Skyforge outfit style yet?

    Yep we do, details are here https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26395?utm_source=SocialMedia&utm_medium=bitly it literally shows it.
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  • MarrazzMist
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    Great! I think they set good goals. I still have a lot to work for with motifs, writs and jewellery crafting, obviously.
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  • Inklings
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    PlagueSD wrote: »
    All I'll need is this to get it. I already have the other achieves:

    Jewelry Trait Master (Learn all Jewelry Crafting Traits)


    gonna take FOREVER...

    140 days if you have all the passive to lower research timers. Even shorter if you use voucher or crownstore scrolls.

    This is still less time then maxing out a horse. By over a month.
  • starkerealm
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    pizzaow wrote: »
    There are 61 full motifs:

    15 Blue/Purple Books:
    Altmer
    Ancient Elf
    Argonian
    Barbaric
    Bosner
    Breton
    Daedric
    Dunmer
    Imperial
    Khajit
    Nord
    Orc
    Primal
    Redguard
    Soul Shriven

    43 Page Books:
    Abah's Watch
    Akaviri
    Aldmeri
    Ancient Orc
    Apostle
    Ashlander
    Assassins League
    Bloodforge
    Buoyant Armiger
    Celestial
    Daggerfall
    Dark Brotherhood
    Dragon Bone*
    Draugr
    Dreadhorn
    Dro-m'Athra
    Dwemer
    Ebonheart
    Ebonshadow
    Ebony
    Glass
    Hlaalu
    Hollowjack
    Infected Flesh*
    Malacath
    Mazzatun
    Mercenary
    Militant Ordinator
    Minotaur
    Morag Tong
    Order of the Hour
    Outlaw
    Psijic*
    Ra Gada
    Redoran
    Sapiarch*
    Silken Ring
    Telvanni
    Thieves Guild
    Trinimac
    Xivkin
    Yokudan
    Worm Cult

    3 Crown Exclusive Motifs:
    Frostcaster
    Grim Harlequin
    Tsaesci - this may be a page/holiday event motif

    * new with Summerset

    Infected Flesh and Dragon Bone are the style mats. Those are the Fang Lair and Scalecaller motifs. Additionally, there's going to be rare variants of both of those motifs which you earn through Battlegrounds. So, instead of 2, it's 4 motifs. There's also the new Maomer motif, which will be accessible through fishing at some point. So, that's 64 total, once Summerset drops.
    Edited by starkerealm on May 19, 2018 12:23AM
  • Edaphon
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    starkerealm wrote: »
    Infected Flesh and Dragon Bone are the style mats. Those are the Fang Lair and Scalecaller motifs. Additionally, there's going to be rare variants of both of those motifs which you earn through Battlegrounds. So, instead of 2, it's 4 motifs.

    The battleground variants aren't crafting motifs, they're outfit styles.
    They work like the prisoner clothes we can already get on the live servers: you can use them in one of your outfit slots but you can't craft any gear in that style.

    The skyforge hammer and the new monster set weapons are also outfit styles.

  • Darkmage1337
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    What exactly constitutes a "Master-Crafter" in regards to improving chances of receiving master-writs?
    I understand that 9/9 traits research and/or all 14/14 pages of many motif books learned supposedly increases your chances of receiving a master-writ (but does not effect the quality/amount of vouchers on the master-writ itself?)

    For example, does learning the traits on Alchemy and Enchanting materials increase the chances of receiving master writs from any source (such as blacksmithing, clothing, and woodworking), or does discovering those ingredients only effect chances of receiving master-writs for alchemy/enchanting crafting writs themselves.

    TL;DR: Are master-writ chances based on universal progress among all crafts or sectioned off and dependent upon progress with each craft?
    Edited by Darkmage1337 on May 19, 2018 6:44AM
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  • TheRealPotoroo
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    Edaphon wrote: »
    Xoelarasizerer wrote: »
    I am hoping the Skyforge Hammer outfit will add to the collections and not be exclusive to your grand master crafter, considering my main crafting character is a mage (the title will be more than enough for them whereas I'd like a toon to get to use the hammer.)

    Once unlocked you can use the hammer on all of your characters.

    Does anyone else think it weird that the Skyforge Smith Hammer is only for 1H weapons? So if you're a Grand Master Crafter 2H you don't deserve a reward?
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  • Jolipinator
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    The Jewelry trait master is hilarious. Buying Summerset is more important than spending months researching all 9 traits on every blacksmithing/clothing/woodworking item. Pay2Title.
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  • Skua
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    Nice, now I have a goal to work towards. I don't have enough complete motifs but I have a while to work on that while I'm researching jewelry.
  • Armatesz
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    TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Xoelarasizerer wrote: »
    I am hoping the Skyforge Hammer outfit will add to the collections and not be exclusive to your grand master crafter, considering my main crafting character is a mage (the title will be more than enough for them whereas I'd like a toon to get to use the hammer.)

    Once unlocked you can use the hammer on all of your characters.

    Does anyone else think it weird that the Skyforge Smith Hammer is only for 1H weapons? So if you're a Grand Master Crafter 2H you don't deserve a reward?

    That does sound kinda odd imo.
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  • resdayn00
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Xoelarasizerer wrote: »
    I am hoping the Skyforge Hammer outfit will add to the collections and not be exclusive to your grand master crafter, considering my main crafting character is a mage (the title will be more than enough for them whereas I'd like a toon to get to use the hammer.)

    Once unlocked you can use the hammer on all of your characters.

    Does anyone else think it weird that the Skyforge Smith Hammer is only for 1H weapons? So if you're a Grand Master Crafter 2H you don't deserve a reward?

    That does sound kinda odd imo.

    That is because it’s a smith hammer. And those are one-handed.

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  • JerzeeDevil
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    pizzaow wrote: »
    There are 61 full motifs:

    15 Blue/Purple Books:
    Altmer
    Ancient Elf
    Argonian
    Barbaric
    Bosner
    Breton
    Daedric
    Dunmer
    Imperial
    Khajit
    Nord
    Orc
    Primal
    Redguard
    Soul Shriven

    43 Page Books:
    Abah's Watch
    Akaviri
    Aldmeri
    Ancient Orc
    Apostle
    Ashlander
    Assassins League
    Bloodforge
    Buoyant Armiger
    Celestial
    Daggerfall
    Dark Brotherhood
    Dragon Bone*
    Draugr
    Dreadhorn
    Dro-m'Athra
    Dwemer
    Ebonheart
    Ebonshadow
    Ebony
    Glass
    Hlaalu
    Hollowjack
    Infected Flesh*
    Malacath
    Mazzatun
    Mercenary
    Militant Ordinator
    Minotaur
    Morag Tong
    Order of the Hour
    Outlaw
    Psijic*
    Ra Gada
    Redoran
    Sapiarch*
    Silken Ring
    Telvanni
    Thieves Guild
    Trinimac
    Xivkin
    Yokudan
    Worm Cult

    3 Crown Exclusive Motifs:
    Frostcaster
    Grim Harlequin
    Tsaesci - this may be a page/holiday event motif

    * new with Summerset

    I know all *known* styles in game (PS4) :smile:
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  • Armatesz
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    resdayn00 wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Xoelarasizerer wrote: »
    I am hoping the Skyforge Hammer outfit will add to the collections and not be exclusive to your grand master crafter, considering my main crafting character is a mage (the title will be more than enough for them whereas I'd like a toon to get to use the hammer.)

    Once unlocked you can use the hammer on all of your characters.

    Does anyone else think it weird that the Skyforge Smith Hammer is only for 1H weapons? So if you're a Grand Master Crafter 2H you don't deserve a reward?

    That does sound kinda odd imo.

    That is because it’s a smith hammer. And those are one-handed.

    There are smith hammers that are quite larger than being held in one hand irl.
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  • Stinkyremy
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    The only achievement title I have that I am proud of, and have been wearing since I have it, is tamriel hero.
    As it is now, I am a master crafter (all traits, know all styles) and I am more proud of being a master crafter than solo questing (as a tank) getting all skyshard, all location ect.
    I will wear that grand master crafter title with pride, all I will need is max jewellery crafting.
  • Stinkyremy
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    Royaji wrote: »
    POps75p wrote: »
    I currently can make every motif that in the game all 63 or what ever the amount is, can I assume that I don't have to do it again on a different toon?

    As any achievement, it will be character based. So you will get the credit for that character but not for anyone else.

    Well that isn't true, all chars can use the motifs in the outfit system, and all chars can use the dyes you have unlocked.
    Other than that all achievements and titles are separate.
  • Stinkyremy
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    pizzaow wrote: »
    There are 61 full motifs:

    * new with Summerset

    I think you forgot fang lair and scalecaller. there are 5 new motifs in summerset afaik.
    Plus 2 outfit styles from battleground

    Edit: my bad you are just calling the 2 dungeon motifs a different name.
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/407265/summerset-new-motifs-preview-and-guide
    Edited by Stinkyremy on May 21, 2018 8:06PM
  • Armatesz
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    Stinkyremy wrote: »
    The only achievement title I have that I am proud of, and have been wearing since I have it, is tamriel hero.
    As it is now, I am a master crafter (all traits, know all styles) and I am more proud of being a master crafter than solo questing (as a tank) getting all skyshard, all location ect.
    I will wear that grand master crafter title with pride, all I will need is max jewellery crafting.

    The first grind towards becoming a master crafter to level 50 is not quite as much as getting all traits researched and becoming a trait master, but I can def say getting all motifs learned is by far the worst grind of it all.

    I will admit I think they had to resay what a master crafter was because so many people were mistaken on what was a master crafter, being a trait master doesn't make you a master crafter... only level 50 does.
    Edited by Armatesz on May 21, 2018 8:15PM
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  • ArchMikem
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    Well then, my crafter after two years is say, 30% of the way there?
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  • resdayn00
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    resdayn00 wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Xoelarasizerer wrote: »
    I am hoping the Skyforge Hammer outfit will add to the collections and not be exclusive to your grand master crafter, considering my main crafting character is a mage (the title will be more than enough for them whereas I'd like a toon to get to use the hammer.)

    Once unlocked you can use the hammer on all of your characters.

    Does anyone else think it weird that the Skyforge Smith Hammer is only for 1H weapons? So if you're a Grand Master Crafter 2H you don't deserve a reward?

    That does sound kinda odd imo.

    That is because it’s a smith hammer. And those are one-handed.

    There are smith hammers that are quite larger than being held in one hand irl.

    Show me one, I can’t find any. As far as my knowledge goes, smith hammers are used with one hand because the other one holds either the metal or the tongs. A two-handed hammer would be impractical and destroy the purpose in this case, since the metal would just fly away, also you couldn’t land precise hits.
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  • Armatesz
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    resdayn00 wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    resdayn00 wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Xoelarasizerer wrote: »
    I am hoping the Skyforge Hammer outfit will add to the collections and not be exclusive to your grand master crafter, considering my main crafting character is a mage (the title will be more than enough for them whereas I'd like a toon to get to use the hammer.)

    Once unlocked you can use the hammer on all of your characters.

    Does anyone else think it weird that the Skyforge Smith Hammer is only for 1H weapons? So if you're a Grand Master Crafter 2H you don't deserve a reward?

    That does sound kinda odd imo.

    That is because it’s a smith hammer. And those are one-handed.

    There are smith hammers that are quite larger than being held in one hand irl.

    Show me one, I can’t find any. As far as my knowledge goes, smith hammers are used with one hand because the other one holds either the metal or the tongs. A two-handed hammer would be impractical and destroy the purpose in this case, since the metal would just fly away, also you couldn’t land precise hits.

    I can go by knowledge a friend told me that they are not often used and only for certain tasks. Don't recollect on what but I believe he said there are other tools that are more traditionally used instead because to be honest automation is by far the easier of it all.
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  • Jayne_Doe
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    just the jewellery to do then...

    looking forward to it.

    new chapter adds 2 new alchemical ingredients, so 2 for you ;)

    yeah go on, burst my bubble.....

    At least it won't be hard for that one :smiley: You will likely get alchemy one done in a day, if not within the hour.

    Are they really adding the 2 new reagents to the alchemy achievement, since many have already earned that achievement. Is it somehow going to be un-achieved and we have to achieve it again by learning the 2 new reagents? Or is there another achieve for those 2 that I'm missing.

    Also, you'll need to get to level 50 in JC as well, so that's two new ones.
    Edited by Jayne_Doe on May 21, 2018 9:47PM
  • Armatesz
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    Jayne_Doe wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    just the jewellery to do then...

    looking forward to it.

    new chapter adds 2 new alchemical ingredients, so 2 for you ;)

    yeah go on, burst my bubble.....

    At least it won't be hard for that one :smiley: You will likely get alchemy one done in a day, if not within the hour.

    Are they really adding the 2 new reagents to the alchemy achievement, since many have already earned that achievement. Is it somehow going to be un-achieved and we have to achieve it again by learning the 2 new reagents? Or is there another achieve for those 2 that I'm missing.

    Also, you'll need to get to level 50 in JC as well, so that's two new ones.

    Yeah I noticed the two new reagents. I'm still waiting for vampire dust to come in >.>
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  • jimmulvaney
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    YAAAAASSS OMG!!! I Finally did it!! Got the banners to proove it too!
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    Personally, I am not a fan of hammers as a tank, but I feel like THOR with this one! :D
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  • ghastley
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    resdayn00 wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    resdayn00 wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Xoelarasizerer wrote: »
    I am hoping the Skyforge Hammer outfit will add to the collections and not be exclusive to your grand master crafter, considering my main crafting character is a mage (the title will be more than enough for them whereas I'd like a toon to get to use the hammer.)

    Once unlocked you can use the hammer on all of your characters.

    Does anyone else think it weird that the Skyforge Smith Hammer is only for 1H weapons? So if you're a Grand Master Crafter 2H you don't deserve a reward?

    That does sound kinda odd imo.

    That is because it’s a smith hammer. And those are one-handed.

    There are smith hammers that are quite larger than being held in one hand irl.

    Show me one, I can’t find any. As far as my knowledge goes, smith hammers are used with one hand because the other one holds either the metal or the tongs. A two-handed hammer would be impractical and destroy the purpose in this case, since the metal would just fly away, also you couldn’t land precise hits.

    A two-handed hammer would be used when two smiths are co-operating on a heavy job. The first smith indicates where to hit with his one-handed hammer, and then the big one does the work by hitting the same place.

    And for jobs even larger, there's actually a trip-hammer in the game - Orcish, if I recall correctly.
  • DuskMarine
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    Professions Master (Earn rank 50 for all crafting professions)
    Unsurpassed Crafter (Complete 100 Master Writs)
    Trait Master (Research every available Weapon and Armor Trait at least once)
    Jewelry Trait Master (Learn all Jewelry Crafting Traits)
    Learn the Nirnhoned Trait
    True Style Master (Collect and learn 50 full motifs)
    Recipe Compendium (Learn 100 Provisioning Recipes)
    Potency (Translate all of the Potency runes)
    Botanist (Learn every Trait for a wide variety of Alchemy reagents)

    Link for info https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26395?utm_source=SocialMedia&utm_medium=bitly

    I used to see so many different arguments on what constituted what a master crafter and I am rather glad they finally put the ground floor on what is a master crafter and let us know there is something beyond just "master" crafter... grand master crafter. "Should you earn this new Achievement, you'll unlock the Grand Master Crafter title and the incredible Skyforge Smith Hammer Outfit Style."

    a master crafter has to have 9 trait and everything done absolutely everything. otherwise your not a master crafter.
  • Armatesz
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    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    Professions Master (Earn rank 50 for all crafting professions)
    Unsurpassed Crafter (Complete 100 Master Writs)
    Trait Master (Research every available Weapon and Armor Trait at least once)
    Jewelry Trait Master (Learn all Jewelry Crafting Traits)
    Learn the Nirnhoned Trait
    True Style Master (Collect and learn 50 full motifs)
    Recipe Compendium (Learn 100 Provisioning Recipes)
    Potency (Translate all of the Potency runes)
    Botanist (Learn every Trait for a wide variety of Alchemy reagents)

    Link for info https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26395?utm_source=SocialMedia&utm_medium=bitly

    I used to see so many different arguments on what constituted what a master crafter and I am rather glad they finally put the ground floor on what is a master crafter and let us know there is something beyond just "master" crafter... grand master crafter. "Should you earn this new Achievement, you'll unlock the Grand Master Crafter title and the incredible Skyforge Smith Hammer Outfit Style."

    a master crafter has to have 9 trait and everything done absolutely everything. otherwise your not a master crafter.

    Check your achievements again... it says ONLY level 50.

    Evidence is as followed
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Master_Alchemist
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Master_Blacksmith
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Master_Clothier
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Master_Enchanter
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Master_Provisioner
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Master_Woodworker
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Master_Jewelry_Crafter

    None of which states anything about traits being learned as a requirement for being a master crafter... only rank 50.
    Believe me or not the game states this and the game is the only one that has clear indications of what a master crafter is, versus what players keep changing up here and there of what a master crafter is. Hence the evidence I stated is the true master crafter.

    Again I am actually showing evidence of what a master crafter is versus heresy.
    Edited by Armatesz on August 7, 2018 10:17PM
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