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So we finally got confirmation on what constitutes a master crafter and it is not 9 trait...

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Professions Master (Earn rank 50 for all crafting professions)
Unsurpassed Crafter (Complete 100 Master Writs)
Trait Master (Research every available Weapon and Armor Trait at least once)
Jewelry Trait Master (Learn all Jewelry Crafting Traits)
Learn the Nirnhoned Trait
True Style Master (Collect and learn 50 full motifs)
Recipe Compendium (Learn 100 Provisioning Recipes)
Potency (Translate all of the Potency runes)
Botanist (Learn every Trait for a wide variety of Alchemy reagents)

Link for info https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26395?utm_source=SocialMedia&utm_medium=bitly

I used to see so many different arguments on what constituted what a master crafter and I am rather glad they finally put the ground floor on what is a master crafter and let us know there is something beyond just "master" crafter... grand master crafter. "Should you earn this new Achievement, you'll unlock the Grand Master Crafter title and the incredible Skyforge Smith Hammer Outfit Style."

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  • Xoelarasizerer
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    The GMC Title feels a little forgiving given how you don't need to research every single Nirnhorned trait and don't need every single motif currently in-game (I can only imagine a nightmare having to re-disable the achievements and title when new motifs are added) but it's still enough effort to warrant the accolades.

    Afterall, collecting every single motif dosen't necessarily make you a master crafter and Nirnhorned certainly isn't the optimal trait for alot of equipment and builds.

    I am hoping the Skyforge Hammer outfit will add to the collections and not be exclusive to your grand master crafter, considering my main crafting character is a mage (the title will be more than enough for them whereas I'd like a toon to get to use the hammer.)

    Edited by Xoelarasizerer on May 18, 2018 2:33PM
  • kylewwefan
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    Oh my. 50 full motifs? I didn’t realize there were that many.
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    kylewwefan wrote: »
    Oh my. 50 full motifs? I didn’t realize there were that many.

    There are 63, I think? Counting crown motifs.
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  • Armatesz
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    kylewwefan wrote: »
    Oh my. 50 full motifs? I didn’t realize there were that many.

    I hope it is not specific ones.
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  • Xoelarasizerer
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    kylewwefan wrote: »
    Oh my. 50 full motifs? I didn’t realize there were that many.
    Atm, I think pre-Summerset there are 60 (Worm Cult being no.60)

    Edited by Xoelarasizerer on May 18, 2018 2:44PM
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    kylewwefan wrote: »
    Oh my. 50 full motifs? I didn’t realize there were that many.

    I hope it is not specific ones.

    It's not, it's any 50, including basic racials/blues.
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    I also note that, like any other crafting-related perk (mastere writ chance) or title, literally no mention is made about number of furniture plans known.

    Did the furniture crafters of yore attempt a coup to become lords of the crafting guilds and get exiled for their insolence? Are furniture crafters seen as the illegitimate children-who-shall-not-be-referenced-in-polite-conversation of "REAL" crafters?
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  • Xoelarasizerer
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    Saucy_Jack wrote: »
    I also note that, like any other crafting-related perk (mastere writ chance) or title, literally no mention is made about number of furniture plans known.

    Did the furniture crafters of yore attempt a coup to become lords of the crafting guilds and get exiled for their insolence? Are furniture crafters seen as the illegitimate children-who-shall-not-be-referenced-in-polite-conversation of "REAL" crafters?

    My guess is cos Furnishings are tied to the other crafting skills and crafting resources and don't have their own skill line. The reward is being a homeowner ^u^ (or ya know, the Lord/Lady title... even though that's more tied to rich real-estate than crafting the swolest sofas)
    Edited by Xoelarasizerer on May 18, 2018 2:49PM
  • Armatesz
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    Saucy_Jack wrote: »
    I also note that, like any other crafting-related perk (mastere writ chance) or title, literally no mention is made about number of furniture plans known.

    Did the furniture crafters of yore attempt a coup to become lords of the crafting guilds and get exiled for their insolence? Are furniture crafters seen as the illegitimate children-who-shall-not-be-referenced-in-polite-conversation of "REAL" crafters?

    last I checked there is such a thing as being a master furniture crafter in each crafting line. Check your achievements and you can see you need to know a certain amount in each to be considered a master furniture crafter in so and so.
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  • Leandor
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    kylewwefan wrote: »
    Oh my. 50 full motifs? I didn’t realize there were that many.

    There are 63, I think? Counting crown motifs.

    There are 57 motifs available, with three of those being crown store exclusives.

    Worm cult is motif 60. The motifs 58 and 59 will probably be scalecaller and fang lair, but are not yet in game. There is one named motif called "clockwork style", I think it's 53 or 55, that cannot be acquired as well.
  • POps75p
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    I currently can make every motif that in the game all 63 or what ever the amount is, can I assume that I don't have to do it again on a different toon?
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    POps75p wrote: »
    I currently can make every motif that in the game all 63 or what ever the amount is, can I assume that I don't have to do it again on a different toon?

    As any achievement, it will be character based. So you will get the credit for that character but not for anyone else.
  • Knootewoot
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    That's still not a Master crafter. This is for Grand Master Crafter. So the debate is still open.
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    That's still not a Master crafter. This is for Grand Master Crafter. So the debate is still open.

    "Professions Master (Earn rank 50 for all crafting professions)"
    There goes your answer, it is answered so debate between zos and yourselves. Zos put the requirements down pretty well enough.
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  • Claire
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    kylewwefan wrote: »
    Oh my. 50 full motifs? I didn’t realize there were that many.

    I hope it is not specific ones.

    It's not, it's any 50, including basic racials/blues.

    Yep, any 50 and racial/blues count towards the total -- checked this on PTS a couple weeks ago.
  • rumple9
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    Complete 50 master writs is a bit steep given that they are expensive to make and largely useless
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    just the jewellery to do then...

    looking forward to it.
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    YAYYYYYYY! I love something to achieve. Moar plaz!
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    rumple9 wrote: »
    Complete 50 master writs is a bit steep given that they are expensive to make and largely useless

    um, it's a hundred master writs.
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    Leandor wrote: »
    kylewwefan wrote: »
    Oh my. 50 full motifs? I didn’t realize there were that many.

    There are 63, I think? Counting crown motifs.

    There are 57 motifs available, with three of those being crown store exclusives.

    Worm cult is motif 60. The motifs 58 and 59 will probably be scalecaller and fang lair, but are not yet in game. There is one named motif called "clockwork style", I think it's 53 or 55, that cannot be acquired as well.

    Refabricated. Clockwork style was one of the addons guessing, back before the motif names were added to the item cards. Gear in Halls of Fabrication drops in this style, but the pages (and style stones) don't.

    I want to say there's also a motif in the 20s that's inaccessible, but, I'm not sure.
    Edited by starkerealm on May 18, 2018 3:46PM
  • Armatesz
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    just the jewellery to do then...

    looking forward to it.

    new chapter adds 2 new alchemical ingredients, so 2 for you ;)
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  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    just the jewellery to do then...

    looking forward to it.

    new chapter adds 2 new alchemical ingredients, so 2 for you ;)

    yeah go on, burst my bubble.....
  • Armatesz
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    just the jewellery to do then...

    looking forward to it.

    new chapter adds 2 new alchemical ingredients, so 2 for you ;)

    yeah go on, burst my bubble.....

    At least it won't be hard for that one :smiley: You will likely get alchemy one done in a day, if not within the hour.
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  • jimmulvaney
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    So close..! I just need the Jewelry crafting, a few more full motif books, and 70 more master writs!
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    Cool, so my crafter is well on his way to completing this then. :)

    Of course jewellery crafting will be the difficult slow, grindy one, but I'm sure we'll get there eventually.
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  • Knootewoot
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    That's still not a Master crafter. This is for Grand Master Crafter. So the debate is still open.

    "Professions Master (Earn rank 50 for all crafting professions)"
    There goes your answer, it is answered so debate between zos and yourselves. Zos put the requirements down pretty well enough.

    Woops you are right. I read the newspage wrong. My apologies.
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
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    Looking at my addon, 56 currently in the game. With a few of those being crown exclusive, that's a fairly hefty requirement. Only 2 or 3 of my crafters have that many completed motifs.

    Tying achievements that are purchasable via the crown store seems against the spirit of an "achievement." Maybe they shoudl change the name to "completions."

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    Any pics of that Skyforge outfit style yet?
    Edited by Vaoh on May 18, 2018 8:13PM
  • Amadis001
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    > Recipe Compendium (Learn 100 Provisioning Recipes)

    There are more than 500 leveled recipes. I wonder why 100 is considered the culmination of learning for that craft?
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  • pizzaow
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    There are 61 full motifs:

    15 Blue/Purple Books:
    Altmer
    Ancient Elf
    Argonian
    Barbaric
    Bosner
    Breton
    Daedric
    Dunmer
    Imperial
    Khajit
    Nord
    Orc
    Primal
    Redguard
    Soul Shriven

    43 Page Books:
    Abah's Watch
    Akaviri
    Aldmeri
    Ancient Orc
    Apostle
    Ashlander
    Assassins League
    Bloodforge
    Buoyant Armiger
    Celestial
    Daggerfall
    Dark Brotherhood
    Dragon Bone*
    Draugr
    Dreadhorn
    Dro-m'Athra
    Dwemer
    Ebonheart
    Ebonshadow
    Ebony
    Glass
    Hlaalu
    Hollowjack
    Infected Flesh*
    Malacath
    Mazzatun
    Mercenary
    Militant Ordinator
    Minotaur
    Morag Tong
    Order of the Hour
    Outlaw
    Psijic*
    Ra Gada
    Redoran
    Sapiarch*
    Silken Ring
    Telvanni
    Thieves Guild
    Trinimac
    Xivkin
    Yokudan
    Worm Cult

    3 Crown Exclusive Motifs:
    Frostcaster
    Grim Harlequin
    Tsaesci - this may be a page/holiday event motif

    * new with Summerset
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