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Elemental Weapon ~ Questions
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jypcy✭✭✭✭✭It’s a separate source of damage from the LA itself. E.g., using imbue weapon/morphs and then hitting an enemy with a LA would result in an 8k hit of damage from the LA and a 10k hit of damage from imbue weapon/morphs, not an 18k LA (just sample numbers). Thus the damage from imbue weapon/morphs is not affected by empower or Queen’s Elegance.
Think of it basically like a one time use damaging enchant you apply to your weapon instead of a buff to LA.6 -
Caulderone✭✭It is a separate damage entry which is applied alongside the LA.
Empower will only affect the LA damage, not the EW damage.
EW damage is increased like spells (mag, spell dmg, spell crit).Edited by Caulderone on May 16, 2018 7:04PM2 -
pteam✭✭✭Does it do more damage than crushing shock, or funnel health?The Flawless Conqueror
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Basically run Crushing Shock instead of Force Pulse on flex spot for a ranged interrupt (should be running Crushing anyway) and use EW as the spam-able.Active Toons:
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ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭so replace force pulse with ele weaps and like master architect on non vma bar or is vma out too?0 -
WhipSmartMcoy✭✭✭Could someone post a clip of their character using that skill on a target, two or three times? I want to see exactly what that skill does, and how its animation works, but the only videos are from dudes burning test dummies and I can't really tell what's happening.0
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Considerably... The effects it grants you access to outclass it and it's cheaper therefore more effectiveFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info1 -
Dymence✭✭✭✭✭
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Considerably... The effects it grants you access to outclass it and it's cheaper therefore more effective
Regardless of added benefits, the question was plain and simple. Does it do more damage than force pulse, no it does not. It's the same.1 -
jypcy✭✭✭✭✭WhipSmartMcoy wrote: »Could someone post a clip of their character using that skill on a target, two or three times? I want to see exactly what that skill does, and how its animation works, but the only videos are from dudes burning test dummies and I can't really tell what's happening.
Can’t post a clip rn, but think of it as a weapon enchantment. You enter combat, you hit an enemy with a LA, your enchantment also goes off, so the enemy takes x damage from your LA and y damage from your enchantment. If the enemy dodges your LA, then they dodge the enchantment damage as well. Both sources of damage can crit independent of one another.
If you imbue your weapon with this skill, then hitting an enemy with a light attack within 2 seconds will cause them to take x damage from your LA, y damage from your enchantment (if it’s off cooldown), and z damage from your imbuement. All three sources can crit independently, but if the enemy dodged that initial LA, then the two sources of damage attached to it (your enchantment and imbuement) won’t fire either.
Animation-wise, you take a moment to imbue your weapon by running your hand along it (at least for staves). I’ve found it pretty fluid to weave with after the initial change they made to it.0 -
Caulderone✭✭WhipSmartMcoy wrote: »Could someone post a clip of their character using that skill on a target, two or three times? I want to see exactly what that skill does, and how its animation works, but the only videos are from dudes burning test dummies and I can't really tell what's happening.
Gilliam the Rogue had a stream you can watch on Youtube where he showed the animation with a handful of weapons. It was in the middle of a semi-long stream within the last couple weeks.0 -
RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭Can this be casted in stealth?
Nope, the skill un-stealth you.
For the damage component and the comparison with force pulse, remember that FP has 10% spell penetration and get bonus damage from altmer and dunmer passives, making it stronger in term of raw dps. It also active the ancient knowledge passive, so you don't need to run wall or rage on your main bar for pve. Last but not least, FP has an aoe component.
On the other hand, imbue is cheaper.
The secondary effect applied by imbue isn't as powerful as some people think : chilled is far more present than burned and concussed, and FP still has 40% chance apply each effect independently per cast, which result to a very close uptime (and far more with an asylum staff, even imperfect).
Really, for pve the skill is balanced IMO. For pvp, the burst with be a slightly tighter, but not stackable with an another spammable so it's probably ok.0 -
ChefZero✭✭✭✭Can this be casted in stealth?
Nope, the skill un-stealth you.
For the damage component and the comparison with force pulse, remember that FP has 10% spell penetration and get bonus damage from altmer and dunmer passives, making it stronger in term of raw dps. It also active the ancient knowledge passive, so you don't need to run wall or rage on your main bar for pve. Last but not least, FP has an aoe component.
On the other hand, imbue is cheaper.
The secondary effect applied by imbue isn't as powerful as some people think : chilled is far more present than burned and concussed, and FP still has 40% chance apply each effect independently per cast, which result to a very close uptime (and far more with an asylum staff, even imperfect).
Really, for pve the skill is balanced IMO. For pvp, the burst with be a slightly tighter, but not stackable with an another spammable so it's probably ok.
Didn't you forget the orb passive for this comparison?PC EU - DC only0 -
Auldjohn✭✭✭✭WhipSmartMcoy wrote: »Could someone post a clip of their character using that skill on a target, two or three times? I want to see exactly what that skill does, and how its animation works, but the only videos are from dudes burning test dummies and I can't really tell what's happening.
@WhipSmartMcoy, as far as I know Summerset after Queen's Decree is still under NDA so vid clips and screenshots prohibited.Edited by Auldjohn on May 18, 2018 10:53PM@Auldjohn • The Elder Sages' Guild • Master Sage & Co-Founder • facebook.com/groups/theeldersagesguild
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RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭WhipSmartMcoy, as far as I know Summerset after Queen's Decree is still under NDA so vid clips and screenshots prohibited.
Yep but the skill line itself is not under DNA, only his unlock is. Templates have every spells unlocked, so filming a template (or a character who has unlocked the spell) is not forbidden.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I wish to report my comparison of force pulse and imbue weapons
I have used the perfected asylum staff in my tests, because otherwise, force pulse is not really competitive with anything.
Both skills were spammed over the cause of 1 minute, resulting in 54 hits for each ability. Force pulse usually deals at least 2k more dps, because it causes alot of elemental status effect damage, it also has decent aoe potential in dungeons, dealing between 12-18k extra damage per cast due to it's magic damage pulses to adds. Even though the tooltips of both are almost compareable, force pulse will always deal a few hundret more damage per hit because of penetrating magic.
With Summerset however, we have the choice to remove the asylum staff and use another 5 set piece instead, which will of course bolster imbue weapons damage potential. Spell orbs deals almost 1k dps, which is very decent for a passive. Now the true reason why imbue weapons is good though, is that it costs 294 less magicka than force pulse. That's almost 16k magicka over the cause of 1 minute After my force pulse test, I had 15% magicka left (from 53k magicka) and after my imbue weapons test, I had 45% magicka left. That is considerable !
Further more, this definately allows us to wear 3 damage glyphs for those who aren't already. The improved sustain combined with the increased damage from abilities (because we can drop that asylum staff and get better stats) makes imbue weapons equal, if not even superior to force pulse. Force pulse will however remain superior as soon as it's not a pure single target fight anymore. And as I said, all of this is irrelevant if you don't own an Asylum staff or only the normal version, as only the perfected version is competitive with imbue weapons.
Just some random screenshots for comparison. I also wanted to mention some possible bugs. Elemental Weapons has a clear bias when it comes to its elemental procs. The proc chance for concussion is extremely low and sometimes it never procs in a parse, while chill always procs very often and burning medium often. This can also be seen in the screenshot and was the case in all tests, also vs my trusty real life pet friend (player). Also, elemental weapon can proc its effects on damage shields I've expected that and hoped for it, but it could be unintentional.
Edited by Dracane on May 19, 2018 1:11AMAuri-El is my lord,
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ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭has anyone tried this with like a ele weap innerlight (for empower) style rotation?
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RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭has anyone tried this with like a ele weap innerlight (for empower) style rotation?
Ele weapon damage is not affected by empower. So, losing a GCD for 40% more damage on your next light attack will never be useful in term of dps, especially since you need to avoid using a weaved LA between your empower cast and your ele weapon cast, resulting on a GCD and 60% of a LA damage loss.
In pvp, it can be used for burst if you manage to land it.0 -
Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭has anyone tried this with like a ele weap innerlight (for empower) style rotation?
Ele weapon damage is not affected by empower. So, losing a GCD for 40% more damage on your next light attack will never be useful in term of dps, especially since you need to avoid using a weaved LA between your empower cast and your ele weapon cast, resulting on a GCD and 60% of a LA damage loss.
In pvp, it can be used for burst if you manage to land it.
This combo is indeed very underwhelming. They seemed to have nerfed light attacks or empower even further. Empower's effect is barely worth mentioning anymore.Auri-El is my lord,
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✭✭✭✭✭Not to highjack the OP’s thread lol, but is Imbue quick to get?
With the Mages Guild, it progressively requires more books per level. Is the Psijic skill line the same or does each level require the same amount of XP?
I plan on leveling up this skill line on multiple characters. Only 1-2 might want to fully lvl it.0 -
ixie✭✭✭✭✭I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to say, but it's much easier than Mages GuildPC EU
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Darlon✭✭✭✭✭Not to highjack the OP’s thread lol, but is Imbue quick to get?
With the Mages Guild, it progressively requires more books per level. Is the Psijic skill line the same or does each level require the same amount of XP?
I plan on leveling up this skill line on multiple characters. Only 1-2 might want to fully lvl it.
It is the 2nd skill if I remember correctly... fairly quick to get. And morphing it does not require much time ether...
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RexyCat✭✭✭✭Can this be casted in stealth?
Nope, the skill un-stealth you.
For the damage component and the comparison with force pulse, remember that FP has 10% spell penetration and get bonus damage from altmer and dunmer passives, making it stronger in term of raw dps. It also active the ancient knowledge passive, so you don't need to run wall or rage on your main bar for pve. Last but not least, FP has an aoe component.
On the other hand, imbue is cheaper.
The secondary effect applied by imbue isn't as powerful as some people think : chilled is far more present than burned and concussed, and FP still has 40% chance apply each effect independently per cast, which result to a very close uptime (and far more with an asylum staff, even imperfect).
Really, for pve the skill is balanced IMO. For pvp, the burst with be a slightly tighter, but not stackable with an another spammable so it's probably ok.
Didn't you forget the orb passive for this comparison?
Orbs are only Point Blank on Caster, which means that it doesn't have much impact on a range weapon like lightning staves.
Main difference with this skill is that you can use it on a resto staff and increase damage from LA. Combo it with a monster sets like Ilambris and you will trigger (proc) AoE damage on target or any other set that procs of fire (from burn), cold (chill) or lightning (concussion).
There are different combination outside of the classic destro staves that make these Psijic skills useful. On resto it is possible to use CC (Time Stop/Time Freeze) to slow down and stun enemies, to move faster with Accelerate (or any morph) and increase damage (10% crit damage).
As far as I can tell EW bugs out on Energy Overload, but is still useful when it works. The main advantage is that it only uses magic when it hits, so if you fire off too late or target are avoiding taking damage it will not use up any magica.
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