Just a noob asking for tips

Sporigudinai

Hi guys, Eizenheim here.

I´m playing for a week now and 2 days ago decided to try the pvp and i really liked.
Yeah i know i´m still noob, and i have almost everything still to learn.
But i do want to stay in PVP and start learning and be a little better to help my aliance. I´m playing at Kyne for now, because i supposed would be the better place for a beginner like me.

So, i´m a DK still at lvl 20 and i really wanted to do a more tanky guy. My race is Redguard (maybe it was not a good race??) but i really wanted to try something mixing stam and Magk

My question is how can i survive??? haha
I know i need to learn the right time to block and dogde, etc.
But i really want to know about better skills to use and best armours or anything like that, so i can have it in mind while i practice and evolve.

vamp_emily

You should group with me for a few days. That is if you don't have me on ignore yet.

VaranisArano

So the first piece of advice I can give you as a new PVPer is to read Joy_Division's Guide To Midyear Mayhem. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/360956/joy-s-advice-for-midyear-mayhem-event/p1 Its geared toward the event, but has a ton of great advice for surviving and fighting in Cyrodiil.

For gear, whatever you wear at level 20, you'll outlevel quickly. You do want Impenetrable trait gear, which reduces enemy critical attacks and really boosts your survivalbility.

For Crafted sets (since you are low level), I would recommend something like Fortified Brass, Shacklebreaker, or Whitestrake's Retribution.

I don't have much experience with a StamDK in PVP. Basic info I can give you is that you'll want to unlock Vigor from the Assault War line as fast as possible and self-heal proactively. On my stam characters, I usually use a bow for ranged fights (great for learning if you are running with a group or a zerg) though you will want One hand and Shield as well for tanking.

Sporigudinai

vamp_emily wrote: »

You should group with me for a few days. That is if you don't have me on ignore yet.

I saw you arguing with some guys at the chat already, but i think it´s fun.

I played with some groups but i don´t think you were there. I will hit you on the chat

Sporigudinai

VaranisArano wrote: »

So the first piece of advice I can give you as a new PVPer is to read Joy_Division's Guide To Midyear Mayhem. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/360956/joy-s-advice-for-midyear-mayhem-event/p1 Its geared toward the event, but has a ton of great advice for surviving and fighting in Cyrodiil.

For gear, whatever you wear at level 20, you'll outlevel quickly. You do want Impenetrable trait gear, which reduces enemy critical attacks and really boosts your survivalbility.

For Crafted sets (since you are low level), I would recommend something like Fortified Brass, Shacklebreaker, or Whitestrake's Retribution.

I don't have much experience with a StamDK in PVP. Basic info I can give you is that you'll want to unlock Vigor from the Assault War line as fast as possible and self-heal proactively. On my stam characters, I usually use a bow for ranged fights (great for learning if you are running with a group or a zerg) though you will want One hand and Shield as well for tanking.

Hi there
This thread was really good man, thanks for show me.

About the impenetrable gear i will look for it

Zeromaz

The best advice i can give you is pay attention to how classes play against you.

Mag sorc’s typical burst combos, nightblade’s incap+following damage, DK’s reflects. Classes usually go on the attack or defensive in a similar fashion, reguardless of builds. If a templar is at full health and hasn’t used an ultimate for some time, it usually means they will punish you any coming moment. When you feel thats about to happen, its time to stop DPSing and make sure your buffs are up.

Nightblades typically follow up with big damage after incap, so block, roll, CC them until that debuff is off you.

These are just a couple examples. Without know how other classes play, it will be difficult so for now, try to pay more attention to what your enemies are doin more than what you are doing. From there, you can figure out what you need to be doing

Sporigudinai

Zeromaz wrote: »

The best advice i can give you is pay attention to how classes play against you.

Mag sorc’s typical burst combos, nightblade’s incap+following damage, DK’s reflects. Classes usually go on the attack or defensive in a similar fashion, reguardless of builds. If a templar is at full health and hasn’t used an ultimate for some time, it usually means they will punish you any coming moment. When you feel thats about to happen, its time to stop DPSing and make sure your buffs are up.

Nightblades typically follow up with big damage after incap, so block, roll, CC them until that debuff is off you.

These are just a couple examples. Without know how other classes play, it will be difficult so for now, try to pay more attention to what your enemies are doin more than what you are doing. From there, you can figure out what you need to be doing

Hi @Zeromaz thanks! I tried to pay attention at it today. Its really dificult to do because im not that used with the game yet but i think it can really help me to stay alive for a little longer hehe

Rohamad_Ali

Welcome to PvP !

You are going to want to get some 5 piece sets while leveling to help you survive . 7th legion and Werewolf Hide are both good for DK and can farmed in PvE zones pretty easy . Bankorai world bosses , dungeon bosses and treasure chests drop 7th legion set . The Dolmans drop the jewelry . Glenumbra drops werewolf hide set the same way in that zone . You will want all impenetrable traits on armor for survivablility .

DK's rely on ingenious shields for protection and dots (damage over time) to assault enemies . Roots like talons are good to slot . Talons are good for dmg and heals . Noxious breath is good dot for stamina DK . Speaking of which this whole advice is for stamina DK not magic . So put all attributes points in stamina but maybe a little in health too until you learn .

Vigor will be a great heal once you unlock it in PvP . You can also use two handed weapon and unlock rally for another good heal .

Those guides posted will help too from the others and Vamp Emily is a nice player with valuable advice . Running with her will help learn a lot . Wishing you luck in battle !

Sporigudinai

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Welcome to PvP !

You are going to want to get some 5 piece sets while leveling to help you survive . 7th legion and Werewolf Hide are both good for DK and can farmed in PvE zones pretty easy . Bankorai world bosses , dungeon bosses and treasure chests drop 7th legion set . The Dolmans drop the jewelry . Glenumbra drops werewolf hide set the same way in that zone . You will want all impenetrable traits on armor for survivablility .

DK's rely on ingenious shields for protection and dots (damage over time) to assault enemies . Roots like talons are good to slot . Talons are good for dmg and heals . Noxious breath is good dot for stamina DK . Speaking of which this whole advice is for stamina DK not magic . So put all attributes points in stamina but maybe a little in health too until you learn .

Vigor will be a great heal once you unlock it in PvP . You can also use two handed weapon and unlock rally for another good heal .

Those guides posted will help too from the others and Vamp Emily is a nice player with valuable advice . Running with her will help learn a lot . Wishing you luck in battle !

Wow, thanks man, i just watched a guide at youtube and was about using Werewolf Hide. I will try to search for it at PVE, maybe can help me.

I´m not dying so easy anymore, i´m trying to dodge and i think i unlocked some nice skills, so it´s helping me a little. But i´m far from be at least average hehe But it´s really hard to survive if you have 4 5 guys over you. Not that i try to deal with them, but i can´t even run away

Let´s keep trainning.

JumpmanLane

Forget Kyne. Go to Vivec. I went straight to Vivec at level 10 and died and died and died. Most of the people you encounter, whatever their alliance are usually pretty cool. Some will even stop and give you tips.

You’ll learn most from the very best players and they are in Vivec. Though, you can’t go wrong with the advice from the forum here. Good luck and keep at it.

davey1107

Welcome to PvP!

Redguard is a perfectly fine race for a stamina character.

General PvP tips, focusing on stuff maybe missed in Joy’s guide:

Earn 20% more AP: you can get a one hour buff called blessing of war by killing any delve boss. So every hour, go kill a boss...the AP really adds up. Turn on your long term buff interface thing if you want to see your timer...it also shows in your character sheet. Every faction has several delves near keeps that you can zoom in and out in two minutes...plus as a newbie you need all the sky shards. Also, most Cyrodiil delves have more than one boss. Two of them have five bosses.

Always hold the repeatable quests: from the five boards at your base. These reward good ap and great xp. Always hold these quests, you never know when an opportunity to complete them will arise. And if you get a horrible quest spawn (capturing some impossible far away keep), abandon the quest and pick up a new one until you get a favorable one. And when things are slow, go run a scout mission...or learn to capture a resource alone and run one of those.

Learn to sneak: you can get better at PvE by watching how the npcs fight and learning to counter it. Same with PvP. Human enemies are more unpredictable, but not THAT unpredictable. 95% of the time people play lazy and routine. Watch and learn...what hunting, where do your enemies look? When capturing a keep, where domthat stand? Hide? Which paths do that walk on, and which do they ignore? When you learn people’s routines, you can counter them easier.

Speaking of sneak, work up your legerdemain: if you plan to PvP, you’re probably going to want to sneak around a bit. You can reduce the stamina cost of this by up to 40% via a passive in legerdemain. You need to get to level 16...here’s the easiest way. Once a day, go to the ships docked in daggerfall. There are barely any npcs. Steal everything. Fence it all...lander the cheap junk. It takes about a dozen trips to level leger to 16, but it’s worth the investment.

Slow night? No fighting? Go do some town quests. The five towns (the three capturable ones plus chedinhal and...um...the volcano one) will spawn ten repeatable quests per day PER TOWN. These are five minute quests - go kill a bear, go grab this chest, etc. They reward a little AP and A LOT of xp. If things are slow, go level some skills and your character.

Busier campaigns are better. As long as Kyne is busy, it’s great. But if it is slow you might suffer. Feel free to play Vivec...if there’s a big population you can earn more AP there than playing in a slow non-vet campaign. You can set it as guest - the only difference between home and guest is that you can’t be on leaderboards in your guest, and you less rewards at the end. But you earn the same AP and everything else.

PUGs can be a great way to learn. Join groups, and when you find a chatty, experienced group that’s fun, stick around. In a cool group people will share advice, explain things, and you’ll learn a lot.

Get some invisibility + speed pots. Blessed thistle, blue enteloma, namira rot. You go invisible and you get a speed boost. These will be a little tricky to master because you cannot take ANY damage or the pot fails. But as a newbie you might find yourself cornered or spotted or whatever and want to disappear.

Make sure to feed your mount each day. You want to max out your mount to play PvP...start working on it now, it takes a while.

Hope that helps. Good luck!

One last tip: is the coast clear, or is there a nightblade out there hiding? Spoiler...there’s a nightblade. There’s always, always, always a nightblade.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

I’m definitely NOT a noob but I’m redownloading ESO right now and have played, I think, twice in the last calendar year after no-lifing the crap out of ESO for years.

If anyone has any tips on things I’ve missed please let me know.

There is a hundred percent chance that I simply dust off my CP600+ magplar, do a respec, and queue for PVP without a group like a true lunatic. Has anything been added in the last year that would make me go “what the f was that” or is it still similar enough to 12 months ago where I’ll be fine?

No idea what the current meta is, and nerfs never really hurt my guy cause I always had the most OP magplar imaginable - it’s essentially a fake sorc with better healing - so that aside, any heads up you can give me would be appreciated.

VaranisArano

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

I’m definitely NOT a noob but I’m redownloading ESO right now and have played, I think, twice in the last calendar year after no-lifing the crap out of ESO for years.

If anyone has any tips on things I’ve missed please let me know.

There is a hundred percent chance that I simply dust off my CP600+ magplar, do a respec, and queue for PVP without a group like a true lunatic. Has anything been added in the last year that would make me go “what the f was that” or is it still similar enough to 12 months ago where I’ll be fine?

No idea what the current meta is, and nerfs never really hurt my guy cause I always had the most OP magplar imaginable - it’s essentially a fake sorc with better healing - so that aside, any heads up you can give me would be appreciated.

AOE caps have been removed. D-ticks now give you credit even if you leave the grounds as long as you haven't attacked a new keep/resources superstructure. CP NPC guards have been buffed.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

VaranisArano wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

I’m definitely NOT a noob but I’m redownloading ESO right now and have played, I think, twice in the last calendar year after no-lifing the crap out of ESO for years.

If anyone has any tips on things I’ve missed please let me know.

There is a hundred percent chance that I simply dust off my CP600+ magplar, do a respec, and queue for PVP without a group like a true lunatic. Has anything been added in the last year that would make me go “what the f was that” or is it still similar enough to 12 months ago where I’ll be fine?

No idea what the current meta is, and nerfs never really hurt my guy cause I always had the most OP magplar imaginable - it’s essentially a fake sorc with better healing - so that aside, any heads up you can give me would be appreciated.

AOE caps have been removed. D-ticks now give you credit even if you leave the grounds as long as you haven't attacked a new keep/resources superstructure. CP NPC guards have been buffed.

Just to make sure I understand, that means ...

- an AOE ability like the destro ult will fry everyone and not a limited number of people?
- I don’t have to stand on the wall for 90 seconds?
- Soloing resources should be much harder?


Thanks!

dazee

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Forget Kyne. Go to Vivec. I went straight to Vivec at level 10 and died and died and died. Most of the people you encounter, whatever their alliance are usually pretty cool. Some will even stop and give you tips.

You’ll learn most from the very best players and they are in Vivec. Though, you can’t go wrong with the advice from the forum here. Good luck and keep at it.

I'd rather they get rid of vivec entirely CP destroys pvp balance.