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Bone Pirate set - Stats increased, but no dmg or heal got affected.

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After a long break from the game, I've just been told by a friend that the x5 set piece, The 2k max stam isnt affecting actual dmg, only tool tip and stats.
I believe this has been addressed multipile time, i have tested this myself for a few times.
Bone pirate set:
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina

(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery

(4 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina

(5 items) While you have a drink buff active, your Max Stamina is increased by 2000 and Stamina Recovery by 150.

I have tested the dmg of my heroic slash on my DK, without any buffs.

Once with dubious drink, my max stam was at 41k
http://i.imgur.com/j079lFu.png
Heroic slash dmg: 2555.


Switched to Max HP + Max stam food, my max stam was at 40.7k
http://elderscrollsalliance.com/my_uploads/2017/04/SharkPot03.jpg
Heroic slash dmg: 2669


DIscalimer** Even using a higher stam pool food, i still had more max stam with dubious and bone pirate x5 set proc.

Is this some kind of a joke?
I spent countless of hours to farm this set, just for a 150 stam regen bonus? Maybe the regen not even working, and its just fake stats.
This is needs to be fixed with summerset, ITS a dungeon set, it require both bars, and its just too ridicilous that a fix hasnt come yet.
Some things just cannot be accepted.

FIX IT, please. thx.
Edited by amir412 on April 29, 2018 4:39PM
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  • Marcomazzo
    I can confirm..on a target skeleton i do more damage without bone pirate up and with way less max stamina but my tooltips are higher with a drink up...fix it as soon as possible
  • olsborg
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    Just tested this myself to be absolutely sure and I can confirm it.
    I had just about 1k less max stam with food buff instead of drinkbuff while wearing 5 bone pirate set and I had more dmg vs a monster with the food vs the drink. It also affects healing. The conclusion is that the 2k max stam on paper isnt working for your actual dmg and healing output.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Wrobel would you please have a fix for this with Summerset?
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    Maybe @Alcast or @Gilliamtherogue could make a vid demonstration so the devs will see it themself. And a bigger crowd will know about it.
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  • Grimlok_S
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    There's a visual test comparing impreg to bone pirate in this video, around 3:10.

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  • olsborg
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    Grimlok_S wrote: »
    There's a visual test comparing impreg to bone pirate in this video, around 3:10.


    Thank you for this man, appreciate it.
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  • Skullstachio
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    They did say that max stamina "And" Weapon damage will have more combined viability as to be said with max magicka & spell damage.

    When using a food buff, make sure you check your current max stamina and weapon damage when using a stamina build, and then you check to see how much damage each stamina ability can do and compare the unbuffed damage to the food buffed damage.

    Because back when I was checking the amount of bleed damage for Werewolf Berserker, it was around 19k+ Bleed Damage Over 8 seconds, but when I used Jugged Rabbit in preserves, I noticed an increase which led up to a whopping 20k worth of bleed damage over 8 seconds.
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  • amir412
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    Alpha-Lupi wrote: »
    They did say that max stamina "And" Weapon damage will have more combined viability as to be said with max magicka & spell damage.

    When using a food buff, make sure you check your current max stamina and weapon damage when using a stamina build, and then you check to see how much damage each stamina ability can do and compare the unbuffed damage to the food buffed damage.

    Because back when I was checking the amount of bleed damage for Werewolf Berserker, it was around 19k+ Bleed Damage Over 8 seconds, but when I used Jugged Rabbit in preserves, I noticed an increase which led up to a whopping 20k worth of bleed damage over 8 seconds.

    [snip]
    I'm QA engineer, i know exactly how to test it. And i can confirm for 20000000000000% thats its bugged.
    WIth food i had same stats, just 500 less stam than Bone, and i did more dmg.


    More than 5 friends tested it and confirmed it.

    [Edited for bashing/baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_MikaS on April 30, 2018 12:59PM
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    Grimlok_S wrote: »
    There's a visual test comparing impreg to bone pirate in this video, around 3:10.

    BohnT wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

    Just did 2 Tests 1 on live and one on the PTS

    No CP
    No passives
    No Attribute Points

    Used Food: dubious camoran throne
    Class: Templar

    Used sets: 5pc bone pirate + 2 random 1h+s


    Heroic slash: Non crit: 1785 Crit: 2678
    Biting Jabs: Non crit: 684 Crit:1026

    New Setup: 4Pc bone pirate +1 random armor Piece with same weight, trait, enchant etc.

    Heroic slash: Non crit: 1785 Crit: 2678
    Biting Jabs: Non crit: 684 Crit: 1026


    the damage is exactly the same even though you lose 2k Stamina on your char spreadsheet

    Tested heals aswell, also affected.
    If u can add results for vigor, would be awsome man!
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  • Lexxypwns
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    This explains why I’ve been anecdotally underwhelmed by Bone Pirate in comparison to other sets lately.
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  • BohnT
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    amir412 wrote: »
    Grimlok_S wrote: »
    There's a visual test comparing impreg to bone pirate in this video, around 3:10.

    BohnT wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

    Just did 2 Tests 1 on live and one on the PTS

    No CP
    No passives
    No Attribute Points

    Used Food: dubious camoran throne
    Class: Templar

    Used sets: 5pc bone pirate + 2 random 1h+s


    Heroic slash: Non crit: 1785 Crit: 2678
    Biting Jabs: Non crit: 684 Crit:1026

    New Setup: 4Pc bone pirate +1 random armor Piece with same weight, trait, enchant etc.

    Heroic slash: Non crit: 1785 Crit: 2678
    Biting Jabs: Non crit: 684 Crit: 1026


    the damage is exactly the same even though you lose 2k Stamina on your char spreadsheet

    Tested heals aswell, also affected.
    If u can add results for vigor, would be awsome man!

    New test for Vigor:

    5Pc Bone pirate:
    Non crit: 1087 Crit:1630

    4pc Bone pirate 1pc Hulking (same enchant etc.)
    Non crti: 1021 Crit: 1531

    As it seems heals are affected by the extra Stamina from bone pirate
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    That makes me wonder, are other sets also affected by this bug? Aka Necropotence, Destruction Mastery etc.
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  • BohnT
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    Alcast wrote: »
    That makes me wonder, are other sets also affected by this bug? Aka Necropotence, Destruction Mastery etc.

    Hopping on the pts to test necro, hulking and destruction mastery

    Update: Enemies: Giant Scorpions in Reaper's March

    Test with DM :
    Force shock: Non crit: 644 Crit: 966
    Honor the Dead:Non crit: 4798 Crit: 7197

    4pc + equal 1 pc:
    FP: Non crit: 586 Crit: 879
    HtD: Non crit: 4377 Crit: 6565

    Test with HD:
    Heroic Slash: Non crit: 2503 Crit: 3844
    Vigor: Non crit: 1141 Crit: 1711

    4pc + equal 1pc:
    Heroic Slash: Non crit: 2376 Crit: 3563
    Vigor: Non crit: 1056 Crit: 1587


    Necropotence:
    Concealed Weapon: Non crit:2372 Crit: 3558
    Blessing of Protection: Non crit:2167 Crit: 3250

    Without the pet:
    Concealed Weapon: Non crit:2115 Crit:3172
    Blessing of Protection: Non crit:1931 Crit: 2896


    >All other sets seem to work just fine

    Edited by BohnT on April 30, 2018 12:41PM
  • amir412
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    That makes me wonder, are other sets also affected by this bug? Aka Necropotence, Destruction Mastery etc.

    Hopping on the pts to test necro, hulking and destruction mastery

    Update: Enemies: Giant Scorpions in Reaper's March

    Test with DM :
    Force shock: Non crit: 644 Crit: 966
    Honor the Dead:Non crit: 4798 Crit: 7197

    4pc + equal 1 pc:
    FP: Non crit: 586 Crit: 879
    HtD: Non crit: 4377 Crit: 6565

    Test with HD:
    Heroic Slash: Non crit: 2503 Crit: 3844
    Vigor: Non crit: 1141 Crit: 1711

    4pc + equal 1pc:
    Heroic Slash: Non crit: 2376 Crit: 3563
    Vigor: Non crit: 1056 Crit: 1587


    Necropotence:
    Concealed Weapon: Non crit:2372 Crit: 3558
    Blessing of Protection: Non crit:2167 Crit: 3250

    Without the pet:
    Concealed Weapon: Non crit:2115 Crit:3172
    Blessing of Protection: Non crit:1931 Crit: 2896


    >All other sets seem to work just fine

    Thanks alot, appreciated. Lets see if they even gonna bother with the fix.
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  • Own
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    This explains why I’ve been anecdotally underwhelmed by Bone Pirate in comparison to other sets lately.

    Wow same. The damage way always way lower than other sets..
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    Thanks everyone, we're taking a look at this.

    YAY, There is a god.
    Please also test the healings and regen from this set.
    Edited by amir412 on April 30, 2018 2:13PM
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  • Alcast
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    Alcast wrote: »
    That makes me wonder, are other sets also affected by this bug? Aka Necropotence, Destruction Mastery etc.

    Hopping on the pts to test necro, hulking and destruction mastery

    Update: Enemies: Giant Scorpions in Reaper's March

    Test with DM :
    Force shock: Non crit: 644 Crit: 966
    Honor the Dead:Non crit: 4798 Crit: 7197

    4pc + equal 1 pc:
    FP: Non crit: 586 Crit: 879
    HtD: Non crit: 4377 Crit: 6565

    Test with HD:
    Heroic Slash: Non crit: 2503 Crit: 3844
    Vigor: Non crit: 1141 Crit: 1711

    4pc + equal 1pc:
    Heroic Slash: Non crit: 2376 Crit: 3563
    Vigor: Non crit: 1056 Crit: 1587


    Necropotence:
    Concealed Weapon: Non crit:2372 Crit: 3558
    Blessing of Protection: Non crit:2167 Crit: 3250

    Without the pet:
    Concealed Weapon: Non crit:2115 Crit:3172
    Blessing of Protection: Non crit:1931 Crit: 2896


    >All other sets seem to work just fine

    nice, thanks
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  • wherew0lf
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    Is the stam recovery also a lie? :(
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  • olsborg
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    Thanks everyone, we're taking a look at this.

    Thanks Gina. Hope they will have a fix for this with Summerset.
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    wherew0lf wrote: »
    Is the stam recovery also a lie? :(

    would like to know this too
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    wherew0lf wrote: »
    Is the stam recovery also a lie? :(

    would like to know this too

    I have done no test, but I’ve been saying for weeks to friends and on these forums that I noticed no difference when switching out bone pirates for automatons in terms of stam sustain. I’ve been wondering If there was some stamina bug that affected regen between 1600 and 1900-2k.
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    did a quick test on ps4 eu, safe to say that the set is broken

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    Lets just hope its fixed for summerset and we dont have to wait for xmas
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  • wherew0lf
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    Far as I can tell the recovery buff still works when tested..

    The stam is definitely bugged though :(
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  • amir412
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    wherew0lf wrote: »
    Far as I can tell the recovery buff still works when tested..

    The stam is definitely bugged though :(

    how did u tested it?
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  • Liam12548
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    Is anyone on PC able to definitively test whether the regen works as well? As far as I can tell there's no surefire way to test it on console.

    I've got 25+ gold pieces of bone pirate, tons of jewlery, probably 100+ hours spent in blackheart alone. Mind blowing that they've managed to break this set.
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    Liam12548 wrote: »
    Is anyone on PC able to definitively test whether the regen works as well? As far as I can tell there's no surefire way to test it on console.

    I've got 25+ gold pieces of bone pirate, tons of jewlery, probably 100+ hours spent in blackheart alone. Mind blowing that they've managed to break this set.

    There is no proof the set has ever worked.
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  • wherew0lf
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    By wearing 5 pc BP, running out stam, then swapping out a piece so I had 4 pc BP on, doing the same. Just a quick thing.

    Both gold, same glyph, trait, and all.

    I don’t play on PC, by the way, but it /seemed/ to have a difference between 5 pc BP and 4 pc

    I can’t confirm it. I’d love if someone could test and 100% confirm.

    Also I wonder.. is the 2-3-4 piece broken as well? Kinda sad if we’ve been wearing basically a set of plain old rubedo armor this entire time.
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