Crushing Weapon Bow/Bow Build?

mr_wazzabi

With crushing weapon bows finally might be able to operate like destro staves.

I'm a ps4 player, so I can't test this.

I was thinking of Master Bow front bar, Maelstrom bow back bar.

Options are:

A)Bows plus two 5 pc sets
b)bows plus one 5pc set, monster set, 3pc set
C)VMA bow backbar, two 5pc sets including bow, monster set

Can you guys test this?

@Alcast @Deltia @Gilliamtherogue I'd love to see what you can do with this.

Juhasow

Snipe is still more viable then Crushing weapon. Stamina drain is lower and DPS is almost the same with Snipe rotation winning slightly.

mr_wazzabi

Juhasow wrote: »

Snipe is still more viable then Crushing weapon. Stamina drain is lower and DPS is almost the same with Snipe rotation winning slightly.

But isn't it awkward to weave light attacks with snipe?

To me crushing weapon to snipe is like surprise attack to wrecking blow. The first one hits less, but faster.

People were saying the magicka equivalent elemental weapon can hit harder than force pulse on some builds.

I need to see actual dps parses before totally writing off an entire build

Toc de Malsvi

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Snipe is still more viable then Crushing weapon. Stamina drain is lower and DPS is almost the same with Snipe rotation winning slightly.

But isn't it awkward to weave light attacks with snipe?

To me crushing weapon to snipe is like surprise attack to wrecking blow. The first one hits less, but faster.

People were saying the magicka equivalent elemental weapon can hit harder than force pulse on some builds.

I need to see actual dps parses before totally writing off an entire build

It really isn't all that awkward to light weave Snipe if you spend a little time on it, its just not instant. With Hawkeye stacks the damage difference is pretty noticeable for most rotations. It's not purely a time issue either, with CW you need double the casts to get roughly the same damage. Being that CW is only 14% cheaper than Snipe, even if you could get two CW for every Snipe it would cost you 70% more stamina to use CW for the same damage as using Snipe.

Furthermore considering that Acid Spray's direct+dot damage is roughly equivalent to Snipe, while costing 30% more than Snipe. If you can space Acid Spray within your rotation to use the Dot damage, it will do just as much damage while being more effective in most situations(cleave) and will cost 40% less than the two CW required to equate it.

My personal opinion is the CW is of little to no use for most bow PVE play, however it should be quite useful in Bow PVP play. I have used it to great effect in duals on the PTS, it offers some slight delayed damage and acts as a filler when you don't want to cast a Snipe. NB's would make the most of CW in PVE as it would make it slightly easier to get more out of Relentless Focus.

Juhasow

You wont be able to sustain full light attack rotation with Crushing Weapons so at some point You'll be forced to do heavy attacks and Crushing weapons are not proccing from heavy attack so You'll need to adjust much more situational rotation that You'll change in the fight. There is no issue to weave light attacks with Snipe it very smooth. Snipe also benefits from Hawk Eye passive and gets 25% dmg boost and Long Shots passive benefits You when you're fighting from larger distance when Crushing weapons gets nothing. Comparing this to wrecking blow and supprise attack correlation is also not best idea. I've maded tests on both rotations on PTS and I had similar DPS's but Crushing weapons rotation drained me out of stamina to the point I was barely able to sustain light attack rotation on 3 milion dummy when I was using cheese food with max stam+stam regen.