Sload's Semblance (aka Shield Breaker 2.0) should be MAGICKA only!

smacx250

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

especially fighting against You or any other really strong sorcerer i dont think i will have enough time to kill you.
i have fought you quite often and you beat the crap out of not only me but Groups of people, you and many other shield stacking sorcerers in sewers and cryodiil beat the crap out of people in Seconds!
the shield breaker set takes a long time because its only light attacks and it needs ALOT of light attacks to kill a shieldstacker like you guys.

now i have killed you sometimes and i would say you win 6 times out of the 10 times we fight, but i have seen some sorcerers that shield breaker had no effect on them, thier so tanky and they insta cast shields soo often that they just cant die.

your shields and over load and light attacks and lightning mixed with streak sorcs can kill people in 3 hits maybe 5 hits max, you guys dont realize you truely are now and have allways been the Kings of PvP.

if i was to waste another 5 pc slot for this set and couple it with shield breaker it might give me more time and a faster shield breaking with you but i bet it does not really help and i bet you it would be a waste and you STILL kill people.

So winning 6/10 is "beating the crap" out of you? Only 1 out of 10 away from a draw is "beating the crap" out of you? I can only imagine what the win rate against the "Groups of people" must be? You just gave a great illustration of why the Devs don't listen to most of the stuff people post.

Malamar1229

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Magsorcs should be nerfed anyway

exactly, and THAT is the part we should be looking at.
these shields and over load and light attacks and lightning mixed with streak sorcs can kill people in 3 hits maybe 5 hits max and no one is making threads about it, but i think maybe its time we do if we want to remain balanced against sorcerers.

Because only bad are still complaining about magsorcs.

Voxicity

Malamar1229 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Magsorcs should be nerfed anyway

exactly, and THAT is the part we should be looking at.
these shields and over load and light attacks and lightning mixed with streak sorcs can kill people in 3 hits maybe 5 hits max and no one is making threads about it, but i think maybe its time we do if we want to remain balanced against sorcerers.

Because only bad are still complaining about magsorcs.

Sorc fanboy alert

Lol at your sig

Didaco

Knight Slayer Doom and Gloom v2.0

Result of the v1.0? No one ended up using Knight Slayer set... Except me, on a fun build.

Peekachu99

Considering you can’t choose the target and you’re often X v 1ing (at least I am). It’s pretty pointless. Can even randomly proc on an add wandering into your aoe.

Tommy_The_Gun

Sload’s Semblance Set
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sload’s+Semblance+Set
(5 items) Damaging an enemy has a 10% chance to put a Leeching Shadow on them, dealing 853 Oblivion Damage every 1 second for 6 seconds. This effect can occur every 6 seconds.

I find it hilarious that you need to sacrifice 5 pcs set just to counter shield stacking...

But either way whenever you will be fighting shield stacking enemy or not - I guess this set will be (unfortunately) new meta...
And if you will use a lot of DOT skills / poisons / sets paired with this what you will get is a oblivion dmg dot with 100% uptime - Not OP at all....

btw. imagine this set paired with sets like viper sting:
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Melee Attack, you deal an additional 6400 Poison damage over 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

Vapirko

Yikes, the I am a magicka user and I need everything to go my way posts are a dime a dozen this week. You all won’t be happy until you can kill us with a single light attack which is kinda where the changes are headed lol. It’s gonna go back to the days when every other person was a mag sorc I guarantee it and then this forum will light up with nerf mag builds and y’all will be crying and yelling that it’s perfectly balanced. This is honestly the first time in a couple of years of PvP where it seems like balancing of mag and stam users is pretty even with a slight tilt towards stam, but not because stam is OP but because stam wardens are op and stamblades are too attactive to zergers and cheese groups. But yes let’s make the oblivion dot set magicka only LOL. I mean honestly, get a grip.

Stinkyremy

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Sload's Semblance should have it's Stamina and Weapon Damage set bonuses removed and replaced with Magicka friendly bonuses.

This set should NOT be released in a form that would make it attractive to Stamina builds who could pair it with Shield Breaker. A Stamina bow build using these two sets with Infused Oblivion enchants could do 4K unmitigated damage per SECOND on a typical Mag Sorc! That's not even counting the damage from abilities and light attacks!

Do I even need to spell out how game-breaking this would be? We don't need another Shield Breaker!

I don't understand what you are crying about, both that set and shackle breaker are hybrid sets, they give both equal amount's of stam and mag resources.
it is neither a stam, or a mag set.
Did you seriously not think this through!?

Peekachu99

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Sload’s Semblance Set
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sload’s+Semblance+Set
(5 items) Damaging an enemy has a 10% chance to put a Leeching Shadow on them, dealing 853 Oblivion Damage every 1 second for 6 seconds. This effect can occur every 6 seconds.

I find it hilarious that you need to sacrifice 5 pcs set just to counter shield stacking...

But either way whenever you will be fighting shield stacking enemy or not - I guess this set will be (unfortunately) new meta...
And if you will use a lot of DOT skills / poisons / sets paired with this what you will get is a oblivion dmg dot with 100% uptime - Not OP at all....

btw. imagine this set paired with sets like viper sting:
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Melee Attack, you deal an additional 6400 Poison damage over 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

Viper’s Sting hits your target, Sload’s hits a random target. I really think people are over QQing this set. I was, until I tested it.

glavius

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Sload’s Semblance Set
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sload’s+Semblance+Set
(5 items) Damaging an enemy has a 10% chance to put a Leeching Shadow on them, dealing 853 Oblivion Damage every 1 second for 6 seconds. This effect can occur every 6 seconds.

I find it hilarious that you need to sacrifice 5 pcs set just to counter shield stacking...

But either way whenever you will be fighting shield stacking enemy or not - I guess this set will be (unfortunately) new meta...
And if you will use a lot of DOT skills / poisons / sets paired with this what you will get is a oblivion dmg dot with 100% uptime - Not OP at all....

btw. imagine this set paired with sets like viper sting:
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Melee Attack, you deal an additional 6400 Poison damage over 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

Viper’s Sting hits your target, Sload’s hits a random target. I really think people are over QQing this set. I was, until I tested it.

Doesn't really matter on a single target build. I fully expect this set to be a 50% damage increase compared to viper, as well as functioning as heavy pressure against shields and an execute against heal ward shield stackers

Chilly-McFreeze

glavius wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Sload’s Semblance Set
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sload’s+Semblance+Set
(5 items) Damaging an enemy has a 10% chance to put a Leeching Shadow on them, dealing 853 Oblivion Damage every 1 second for 6 seconds. This effect can occur every 6 seconds.

I find it hilarious that you need to sacrifice 5 pcs set just to counter shield stacking...

But either way whenever you will be fighting shield stacking enemy or not - I guess this set will be (unfortunately) new meta...
And if you will use a lot of DOT skills / poisons / sets paired with this what you will get is a oblivion dmg dot with 100% uptime - Not OP at all....

btw. imagine this set paired with sets like viper sting:
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Melee Attack, you deal an additional 6400 Poison damage over 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

Viper’s Sting hits your target, Sload’s hits a random target. I really think people are over QQing this set. I was, until I tested it.

Doesn't really matter on a single target build. I fully expect this set to be a 50% damage increase compared to viper, as well as functioning as heavy pressure against shields and an execute against heal ward shield stackers

As if you can always pick your targets while fully ignoring anyone else in the heat of the battle. I'd go as far as saying that almost (!) every build has an aoe component or at least cleave damage.

Tommy_The_Gun

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Sload’s Semblance Set
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sload’s+Semblance+Set
(5 items) Damaging an enemy has a 10% chance to put a Leeching Shadow on them, dealing 853 Oblivion Damage every 1 second for 6 seconds. This effect can occur every 6 seconds.

I find it hilarious that you need to sacrifice 5 pcs set just to counter shield stacking...

But either way whenever you will be fighting shield stacking enemy or not - I guess this set will be (unfortunately) new meta...
And if you will use a lot of DOT skills / poisons / sets paired with this what you will get is a oblivion dmg dot with 100% uptime - Not OP at all....

btw. imagine this set paired with sets like viper sting:
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Melee Attack, you deal an additional 6400 Poison damage over 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

Viper’s Sting hits your target, Sload’s hits a random target. I really think people are over QQing this set. I was, until I tested it.

What I meant is viper could proc it... The proc occurs when you deal dmg - then it has 10% chance to proc. So If you put a lot of DOTs on someone, skills + poisons + set (like viper which applies dot) then every sec you have 10% chance to proc Sload.

Emma_Overload

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Sload's Semblance should have it's Stamina and Weapon Damage set bonuses removed and replaced with Magicka friendly bonuses.

This set should NOT be released in a form that would make it attractive to Stamina builds who could pair it with Shield Breaker. A Stamina bow build using these two sets with Infused Oblivion enchants could do 4K unmitigated damage per SECOND on a typical Mag Sorc! That's not even counting the damage from abilities and light attacks!

Do I even need to spell out how game-breaking this would be? We don't need another Shield Breaker!

I don't understand what you are crying about, both that set and shackle breaker are hybrid sets, they give both equal amount's of stam and mag resources.
it is neither a stam, or a mag set.
Did you seriously not think this through!?

1) Re-read my comment. I'm talking about SHIELD Breaker, not Shackle Breaker.

2) The fact that Sload's is a "hybrid" set is part of the reason it's problematic. The Stamina and Weapon Damage bonuses mean that Stamina builds can pair it with Shield Breaker without making too many sacrifices.

3) If Sload's only had Magicka, Spell Damage and other Magicka oriented bonuses, it would be UNATTRACTIVE to Stam players. They would really have to sacrifice some stats if they wanted to build a "Sorc killer" build.

Is that clear enough for you?

Gilvoth

im not going to wear a set that keeps procing me out of stealth.

NordSwordnBoard

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

im not going to wear a set that keeps procing me out of stealth.

- I thought the oblivion dot takes the target out of stealth, not the caster. You sure you have that right?