VMA, Master and Asylum Weapons.

HoolDog

The weapons that are attained from the games most difficult content are not in a great place at the minute (on the most part).

And with the 2h coming with Summerset the weapons will fall even further still down the desired list.

Why use a VMA 2h and get one buff to charge ability or ulti gen from executes with asylum? When you could use a weapon with thre jewellery and get 2 buffs... for example werewolf hide would provide 129 weapon damage and passive ulti regen.

Surely weapons from this difficult content should not be a debated use... if you have access to them it should be a no brainier to use them.

These weapons need a buff... at the very least the 189 passive damage buff should be added back.

starkerealm

Yeah. There's a few standouts, but mostly... nope. That said, a few pieces do slot into some very nice, specific, niches. So it's not like they're a total waste.

They could use some love, though.

Bigevilpeter

Maelstrom Bow and Staff have been and still will be BiS and now they can be enchanted they don't need anymore buffs.

The other ones are bad because of their bad concepts which probably won't change much and buffing them won't make a huge difference

HoolDog

Back when I first started farming VMA for the 2h for PVP it was such a strong weapon I was determined to farm the heck out of the content to try get an advantage that was available (with effort).

Now

There does not seem like a real need... I am currently levelling on a new server from scratch and I see no real need for the majority of them. Aside from the master bow.

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO

a staff that gives me around 1300 damage to heavy and light attacks compared to a 4th piece bonus + a proc like BSW (or MA or acuity or moondancer or IA) . Well I dont know, that 1300 light attack damage does not look like a better option to me.

Plus if you dont run a Maelstorm or Asylum staff you get 14 slots that can be used for two full proc sets + a monster helm + a 3 piece jewelry such as a 3 piece trial set or a golden Willpower set.

SammyFable

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/408796/maelstrom-master-weapons-will-become-obsolete#latest
One thread on the topic is more than enough.

HoolDog

Like I say the problem I have with it is it’s a debate... a choice... a consideration.

For the effort it takes to farm a VMA weapon... it should be a necessity to run said weapon across the board... destro, resto, bow, 2h, duel wield, etc.

This pushes people to master the content the game has available to gather the strongest weapons.

Not spend 30 seconds crafting a weapon and achieving comparable results.

MaxwellC

vMSA should get back it's weapon damage buff back but asylum weapons are pretty good (solely speaking about the 2h one). If I can throw out ultis more frequently on my Stam DK well that just helps me preform a lot better especially being pretty weak i PvP.

HoolDog

SammyFable wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/408796/maelstrom-master-weapons-will-become-obsolete#latest
One thread on the topic is more than enough.

Fair enough, I did a search to see if this topic had been raised as I found it troubling that I not seen it pop up as I scanned recent posts option since alcast dropped the new changes information.

HoolDog

MaxwellC wrote: »

vMSA should get back it's weapon damage buff back but asylum weapons are pretty good (solely speaking about the 2h one). If I can throw out ultis more frequently on my Stam DK well that just helps me preform a lot better especially being pretty weak i PvP.

I am planning to change my Asylum 2h for a werewolf hide 2h to gain constant passive ulti gen every 5 seconds and 129 constant weapon damage. Might not be as good... but it sounds better in theory to me.

FrancisCrawford

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

Plus if you dont run a Maelstorm or Asylum staff you get 14 slots that can be used for two full proc sets + a monster helm + a 3 piece jewelry such as a 3 piece trial set or a golden Willpower set.

I would hope that a 2-piece monster bonus is better than the 3-piece Willpower bonus.

But yeah -- Minor Slayer could be cool.

vMaick

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

a staff that gives me around 1300 damage to heavy and light attacks compared to a 4th piece bonus + a proc like BSW (or MA or acuity or moondancer or IA) . Well I dont know, that 1300 light attack damage does not look like a better option to me.

Plus if you dont run a Maelstorm or Asylum staff you get 14 slots that can be used for two full proc sets + a monster helm + a 3 piece jewelry such as a 3 piece trial set or a golden Willpower set.

Its not 1300, more like 3-4k, you clearly never got a maelstrom staff