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Consistently being caught pickpocketing with 100% chance?

  • Jaraal
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    Agree with the lag diagnosis. Just because it says 100% on your screen doesn't mean it's still 100% on the server.
  • Sting864
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    Tabbycat wrote: »
    Perhaps ZOS needs to extend the "window of opportunity" as it were to make up for animations and server lag.

    Perhaps ZOS needn't be blamed for players not winning every time... If you think it's lag... time your pickpocketing where you "lead" your mark... so that the "swipe" animation CONCLUDES when the indicator goes to 100%... Thieving ain't easy... If it was everybody'd do it...
  • Violynne
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    you have a 100% chance to pick a pocket. ..NOT a 100% chance to not get caught

    About as useful as a bucket with a large hole in the bottom.

  • ecru
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    Sting864 wrote: »
    ecru wrote: »
    It's never happened to me, and I do a lot of pickpocketing.

    I find it hard to believe that it's just my character.

    Here's a novel idea: timing... As was explained earlier the % fluctuates... If you wait 'til it shows 100% it may already be too late.... Try starting to pickpocket a tick before it hits 100%. That way when you actually do the swipe animation, you'll be on 100%... If you aren't careful, crime DOESN'T pay... Crime's a hard way to make an easy living....

    I find the timing to be unreliable. Sometimes it will take a few seconds to turn green, and other times it will take up to 10, so I feel like this would just get me caught more often.

    FWIW, I'm wearing night's silence and night terror set and have all leger/thieves guild/medium armor passives leveled so the distance I can be detected is as low as you can possibly get (aside from racial passives since my thieving character is high elf), so I don't think it's an issue of somehow being seen by the NPC I'm pickpocketing.
    Tholian1 wrote: »
    I’ve encountered some type of lag or something when pickpocketing on occasion. I will be behind the NPC and completely hidden and when I hit the button to pickpocket they will suddenly flip around (not turn) to face me as if I was lagged and they catch me doing it.

    This happens to me too and is probably the main reason I get caught or get seen. It's especially bad when you go to pickpocket or blade of woe someone in an area where you get a bounty if you're seen, and the NPC's animation backtracks after you try to do either of these things, placing them behind you, landing you with a bounty. Really annoying. I've come to accept that this "just happens" sometimes due to server lag, but the being caught with 100%/green chance issue seems like it reallllly shouldn't be happening as frequent as it does.
    Edited by ecru on April 25, 2018 8:09PM
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  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    It happens to me occasionally. I blame it on lag. :/

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  • Ackwalan
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    PP is a little wonky. For some reason you will always take a step forward when you PP. So if you are to close to the victim, that step forward will put you in view of the victim and you will get caught. Stand a little farther back when you PP, and you will have a better chance.
  • Jaraal
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    ecru wrote: »
    FWIW, I'm wearing night's silence and night terror set and have all leger/thieves guild/medium armor passives leveled so the distance I can be detected is as low as you can possibly get..
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    Night Mother's Embrace will reduce your detection radius another two meters, and don't forget the Dark Brotherhood passives that will make you less noticeable as well.
  • phileunderx2
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    Happens to me all the time. So I have pretty much quit picking pockets.
  • BrokenChef
    Violynne wrote: »
    ecru wrote: »
    Does 100% mean something different to zos than it does to me? This seems to happen to me at least once a day. I can't be the only one who this happens to, right?
    It's not you. It's the game. There's something flawed with the timing.

    When you see 100%, and start your pickpocket, ever notice that tiny animation that "scoots" you forward and then perform the swipe action?

    That small delay is just enough to allow the 100% to drop back to the original 80%, allowing the NPC to notice you.

    The pickpocket doesn't count until you actually have the item, not while you're swiping it.

    I wish this mechanic would be fixed. In the book, Wolfmare's Guide to Better Thieving, it even says to get in and out within 5 seconds.

    100% is a guarantee, but only if the timer stays active long enough during the swipe.

    It's one of the reasons I don't pickpocket much. I got tired of racking up bounties on 80% and 90% chances. :angry:


    This isn't the issue. I can be in a field behind a farmer, no one else around, weapon put away... 100% chance and he catches me. And for that matter, I can do it with weapon in hand and (when it works) it registers the item being taken before it automatically puts weapon away. The pickpocket registers the instant I press E, not 1 second later after weapon is sheathed. I pick every day on 3 characters.. for motif's. Most of the time it works fine but at least once a day I get caught on first pick with green 100%. Just like an 85% chance to force a lock fails 3 times in a row, multiple times during a chest run.
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    We have closed this thread as it was originally posted in 2018 and has only recently resurfaced.

    As the game has undergone many changes since then, there may be information in this article that is no longer accurate. To avoid any confusion we find it best to close such threads when they resurface.

    If you feel this topic needs further discussion feel free to create a new thread.

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