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Question on the @name overlay...

MornaBaine
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...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.
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  • Alamakot
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    Overlay will not be gone before 6th of June, the same way like with Morrowind Chapter
  • Darlon
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    Be sure to note down what you did, because your creation might be deleted before that when they do a fresh database copy from the NA or EU server....
  • DoctorESO
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?
  • Auldjohn
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    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    A better idea is to take personal offline notes of the locations then take similar screenshots AFTER release.
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  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    Auldjohn wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    1) Yes they are representative. They aren't making major changes. This is not "alpha", not even "beta", this is more like "open beta" which is more like "pre-release stress testing".

    2) Even embedded items in a photo can be changed in photoshop. They can't stop you from altering a copy on your end. The watermark is only controlled by them in the source game in code.

    This is really just "the honor system" because that watermark isn't going to stop anybody from releasing information or doing so without repercussions by removing the watermark either with photoshop or some dynamic hacking.

    These developers just have not learned that if you want to keep a secret, don't share it with someone you can't completely trust.
  • MornaBaine
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    Auldjohn wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    A better idea is to take personal offline notes of the locations then take similar screenshots AFTER release.
    Auldjohn wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    A better idea is to take personal offline notes of the locations then take similar screenshots AFTER release.

    Sadly, I won't be able to do that because I will not have access to the same assets on live as I do right now in PTS. I'm pretty sure I can post pics of what I'm doing now because it has nothing to do with spoiling any of the quests. I was just hoping I'd be able to take pics without the overlay as I don't have Photoshop or the knowledge to remove it if I did.
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  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Auldjohn wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    A better idea is to take personal offline notes of the locations then take similar screenshots AFTER release.
    Auldjohn wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    A better idea is to take personal offline notes of the locations then take similar screenshots AFTER release.

    Sadly, I won't be able to do that because I will not have access to the same assets on live as I do right now in PTS. I'm pretty sure I can post pics of what I'm doing now because it has nothing to do with spoiling any of the quests. I was just hoping I'd be able to take pics without the overlay as I don't have Photoshop or the knowledge to remove it if I did.

    Well, you could try to change your UserID and take the pictures then change your UserID back after if you are trying to keep people from knowing your name in game. It is otherwise visible in game in chat and above your character's head.
    The username change is easy, instructions here: How to change UserID


    Edit:
    No guarantee that it changes the watermark name though since I'm unsure how that works.
    Edited by Mystrius_Archaion on April 22, 2018 1:45PM
  • MornaBaine
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Auldjohn wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    A better idea is to take personal offline notes of the locations then take similar screenshots AFTER release.
    Auldjohn wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    A better idea is to take personal offline notes of the locations then take similar screenshots AFTER release.

    Sadly, I won't be able to do that because I will not have access to the same assets on live as I do right now in PTS. I'm pretty sure I can post pics of what I'm doing now because it has nothing to do with spoiling any of the quests. I was just hoping I'd be able to take pics without the overlay as I don't have Photoshop or the knowledge to remove it if I did.

    Well, you could try to change your UserID and take the pictures then change your UserID back after if you are trying to keep people from knowing your name in game. It is otherwise visible in game in chat and above your character's head.
    The username change is easy, instructions here: How to change UserID


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    No guarantee that it changes the watermark name though since I'm unsure how that works.

    Oh I don't at all care about people knowing my in game name and I do know how to change it. The overlay just makes the pics ugly and I'd rather it not be there but I guess I'm stuck with it most likely.
    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Auldjohn wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    A better idea is to take personal offline notes of the locations then take similar screenshots AFTER release.
    Auldjohn wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    A better idea is to take personal offline notes of the locations then take similar screenshots AFTER release.

    Sadly, I won't be able to do that because I will not have access to the same assets on live as I do right now in PTS. I'm pretty sure I can post pics of what I'm doing now because it has nothing to do with spoiling any of the quests. I was just hoping I'd be able to take pics without the overlay as I don't have Photoshop or the knowledge to remove it if I did.

    Well, you could try to change your UserID and take the pictures then change your UserID back after if you are trying to keep people from knowing your name in game. It is otherwise visible in game in chat and above your character's head.
    The username change is easy, instructions here: How to change UserID


    Edit:
    No guarantee that it changes the watermark name though since I'm unsure how that works.

    Oh I don't at all care about people knowing my in game name and I do know how to change it. The overlay just makes the pics ugly and I'd rather it not be there but I guess I'm stuck with it most likely.

    Ok, so I would then say "just deal with it" since there isn't a reason other than personal preference. I thought it was a security concern so tried to answer that.
  • DoctorESO
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    Auldjohn wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    ...that you currently see on PTS for Summerset. Will it be removed May 1st? And how long will our creations be available once the overlay is gone? I would like to take screenshots of the player house I am working on in PTS without that overlay and I'd also like to let a friend stream it without that. If you could let me know @ZOS_GinaBruno when the overlay will go away and for how long I'll be able to access my current project once it is gone I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

    Can you try photoshopping the account names out?

    Because of the NDA @name is well embedded. Also, any screenshots taken during PTS Closed testing are pre-release, therefore not representative of Summerset release content or quality.

    1) Yes they are representative. They aren't making major changes. This is not "alpha", not even "beta", this is more like "open beta" which is more like "pre-release stress testing".

    2) Even embedded items in a photo can be changed in photoshop. They can't stop you from altering a copy on your end. The watermark is only controlled by them in the source game in code.

    This is really just "the honor system" because that watermark isn't going to stop anybody from releasing information or doing so without repercussions by removing the watermark either with photoshop or some dynamic hacking.

    These developers just have not learned that if you want to keep a secret, don't share it with someone you can't completely trust.

    I guess you can also just use the middle of the screen, which doesn't have the account name overlay.
  • Rosveen
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    These developers just have not learned that if you want to keep a secret, don't share it with someone you can't completely trust.
    They don't want to keep anything secret. Everyone and their mother is invited to the beta, almost nothing is actually under NDA (and the NDA ends on May 1st anyway, so long before Summerset's release).
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