Summerset specials for high elves?

Cuwen

Think the high elves will get anything special when Summerset is released? The high elves have kinda gotten jipped so far. We only have 1 house in Auridon, we hardly have any outfits available specifically for high elves, and I font find many craftable items for high elves. Think that was put off, knowing they were going to eventually doing Summerset? Think we'll get special items just for high elves?

adriant1978

I hope there's at least some special dialogue for High Elves.

If my Altmer gets the same snooty "what are you doing sullying our perfect homeland with your presence, tourist?" cold shoulder as a Nord or an Orc it's going to seriously break immersion.

Idinuse

The red head step children of ESO are High Elves, Templars and Aldmeri Dominion.

I could write an essay comparing conveniences, mats bloated delves next door to capital/start town, node drops, capture towns' placements in Cyrodiil, terrain advantages, not the least siege placement around keeps, and many other things to DC and especially EP. But neither I nor anyone else (or devs) GAF so...

Yzalirk

No.

Cuwen

Idinuse wrote: »

The red head step children of ESO are High Elves, Templars and Aldmeri Dominion.

I could write an essay comparing conveniences, mats bloated delves next door to capital/start town, node drops, capture towns' placements in Cyrodiil, terrain advantages, not the least siege placement around keeps, and many other things to DC and especially EP. But neither I nor anyone else (or devs) GAF so...

Yes!! They're treated just the same as other races in the regular Elder Scrolls games, but I have felt like Zen hates high elves and only included them because Bethesda required them to. lol. But now that they're developing an entire expansion for the high elves, I'm hoping that means we'll get much-needed improvements and additions for the elves. There AT LEAST better be a couple houses we can buy in Summerset, and some that aren't mansion-sized and too expensive like the single house in Auridon.

Kodrac

Doubtful. The dark elves in Vvardenfell never figured out I was one too.

maltinkilic

At least (I hope) we won't be greeted as :" you n'wah".

Defilted

I have been disappointed with NPCs not recognizing players of the same race. Morrowind is a really great example of this. Not sure why I was called and outsider with my new dark elf warden.

Another issue I have is all of the responses that require you to play dumb and ask what something is or is not. I would think a dark elf speaking to Vivec would not have to ask who he is or who the living God's are.

Based on the last chapter I doubt this was an improvement that was added into the game. If it was added, I would think it would have been touted in advertisements as this would be a massive addition/change to the game IMO.

I am just going to continue to use my own imagination as I have been and pretend the dialogue is occurring differently for my character of the same race.

maltinkilic

Defilted wrote: »

I have been disappointed with NPCs not recognizing players of the same race. Morrowind is a really great example of this. Not sure why I was called and outsider with my new dark elf warden.

Because dunmers are racist, even against another dunmer. Damn you dunmers. You destroyed the race dunmer.

Cuwen

I wonder why Zenimax dislikes the high elves specifically. I mean, their dislike is clear since they ignore them when it comes to housing, crafting items, costumes, specials in the crown stores....

JKorr

Kodrac wrote: »

Doubtful. The dark elves in Vvardenfell never figured out I was one too.

Dunmer in Vvardenfell don't consider you to be "one of them" unless you were born in Vvardenfell, Outlander.

Rosveen

JKorr wrote: »

Kodrac wrote: »

Doubtful. The dark elves in Vvardenfell never figured out I was one too.

Dunmer in Vvardenfell don't consider you to be "one of them" unless you were born in Vvardenfell, Outlander.

The game doesn't tell us where our characters were born. Why would it automatically assume it wasn't Vvardenfell? It's a pretty strange experience as a new player to be immediately met with hostility from your own people. At least in the original Morrowind the Nerevarine was always an outsider as per the prophecy, but here there's no such reason.

Also, I doubt the Altmer have the same problem with members of their own race.

red_emu

Somehow all NPC's know that I am the Vestige but they can't tell if I'm an Altmer or maybe an Argonian just by looking at me?

... ZOS logic

red_emu

double post

Rosveen

red_emu wrote: »

Somehow all NPC's know that I am the Vestige but they can't tell if I'm an Altmer or maybe an Argonian just by looking at me?

... ZOS logic

Captain Rana could tell and even was surprised if you asked her about your own race.

Kikke

When you did Orsinium as an orc, you got special dialogues in some of the quests. hope they do the same in summerset

InstantNoise

I was only referenced once as a dunmer in Morrowind and that happened on a sidequest, a house dunmer wanted to stake claim with the ashlanders

Tan9oSuccka

Rosveen wrote: »

red_emu wrote: »

Somehow all NPC's know that I am the Vestige but they can't tell if I'm an Altmer or maybe an Argonian just by looking at me?

... ZOS logic

Captain Rana could tell and even was surprised if you asked her about your own race.

I always thought that dialog was funny.

A Nord asking about Nords.....Clever....for a Nord.

Pendrillion

I can put your worries at rest... at least in 2 instances playing as Altmer gave me way more deferencial dialogue than playing as an Argonian.

JKorr

Rosveen wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

Kodrac wrote: »

Doubtful. The dark elves in Vvardenfell never figured out I was one too.

Dunmer in Vvardenfell don't consider you to be "one of them" unless you were born in Vvardenfell, Outlander.

The game doesn't tell us where our characters were born. Why would it automatically assume it wasn't Vvardenfell? It's a pretty strange experience as a new player to be immediately met with hostility from your own people. At least in the original Morrowind the Nerevarine was always an outsider as per the prophecy, but here there's no such reason.

Also, I doubt the Altmer have the same problem with members of their own race.

Your dunmer clearly isn't a member of House Hlaalu, Redoran, or Telvanni. Or Dres, or Indoril. There aren't so many individuals that they aren't known to one another. You don't belong. :shrug:

sneakymitchell

Only nord dlc was a duegeon. Lucky you elves have the exploration area and a trail. And I’m talking morriwind as well.

Lyserus

I mean, you can explain your dunmer being outsider because he is houseless. Maybe the same can be exolained about a “kinless” altmer?

Guarlet

You can get some 'special' Blade of Woes in your backs.

starkerealm

Cuwen wrote: »

Think the high elves will get anything special when Summerset is released?

They will have the opportunity to realize their manifest destiny as the true lords of Alinor, and become griffin bait.

lunarsyed

i think that high elves shuld also get costumes like the sixth house or even in crown store and more you know items and adornments based on high elf culture.

lunarsyed

also im not really impressed with armor styles in med or heavy coz they still look like robes, something like court of bedlam would be more suited as heavy armor.

ArchMikem

adriant1978 wrote: »

I hope there's at least some special dialogue for High Elves.

If my Altmer gets the same snooty "what are you doing sullying our perfect homeland with your presence, tourist?" cold shoulder as a Nord or an Orc it's going to seriously break immersion.

They'll just assume you're originally from the backwater of Auridon.

RaddlemanNumber7

I expect the Altmer of Summerset will always assume you are an outsider, regardless of race, in the same way as the Dunmer of Vvardenfell assumed everyone was a n'wah regardless of race.

dodgehopper_ESO

Cuwen wrote: »

Think the high elves will get anything special when Summerset is released? The high elves have kinda gotten jipped so far. We only have 1 house in Auridon, we hardly have any outfits available specifically for high elves, and I font find many craftable items for high elves. Think that was put off, knowing they were going to eventually doing Summerset? Think we'll get special items just for high elves?

This is inaccurate. Black Vine Villa is a nice little home along with Cliffshade. I will admit that Cliffshade is a bit too small for what they are offering but that is another issue altogether. There is also the Mara's Kiss and Barbed Hook. Granted these are tiny. I realize that you consider only Matthiisen Manor as legitimate because it is the only large house. All of that being said I've been to PTS and I think the 3 homes they offered are absolutely beautiful and I'm looking forward to them. The furniture that is coming out with Summerset is likewise fantastic. I think jewelry crafting also brings a lot of nice material that we'll be able to add.

Many races have things to complain about regarding Housing. Nords for instance have Hakkvild which I will grant is beautiful on the outside is far too limited on its interior for the price tag. In my view there are many homes in the game which deserve some touch ups and reconsideration. Hakkvild's rotunda is one of those locations. Cliffshade is likewise far too narrow and tiny for its price tag. I have off and on considered doing a write up on the homes I feel either have some major mistakes in the artwork or have problems with regard to cost/value ratios. The other big problem in housing which is unrelated but important is that most homes need more furnishing spots. As a subscriber you can't for instance make St. Delyn manor look like the load screen image. Clearly the artists imagination didn't match the reality of the game. I think they should consider giving us some artistic freedom and opening up the amount of things we can place in a home to a greater extent.

Soleya

Bosmer in Mournhold speaking to my Bosmer character.

"What you never seen a wood elf before?"

Kajuratus

The lore is already written for Altmer player characters to be considered an outsider from Summerset NPC's. There was literally no point in leaving your "paradise" of a home, so leaving Summerset in the first place was akin to a death sentence. Now you have the presence of an infectious mainland commoner about you