ZOS Please consider fixing female armour styles!

GeorgeBlack

Meh simple solution.
Make some styles look feminene make some others look like real armor.
Or make one version of each style feminene and one realistic(just like light has 2 options for top) to make everyone happy.
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ArchMikem

So you want boob plates?

enjoyingcoma9

ArchMikem wrote: »

So you want boob plates?

No, I want motifs to morph properly to a female shape. Check out the pics on the first page for evidence of the distortion.

NyassaV

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/398937/female-male-character-models-shoulders#latest

Sevn

Kamatsu wrote: »

I read this thread and see some people saying "We don't want all armor to be skintight boob hugging armor" and defending the way the armor's look.

I really think you should take the time to actually look at the armors. What you'll find in some of the cases is the medium & heavy armor's 'contour' to show female breasts, while the light armor has a weird distorted shape over the chest area. So it's ok for medium and heavy armor to have boob contours but not light armor?

For example, Ra Gada:

Female Light vs Female Heavy:
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Worm Cult:

Light vs Heavy:
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Worm Cult isn't as obvious, but you can clearly see boob line/sculpting on the heavy armor, with weird balloon over chest of the light. It's way more obvious when you look at the front:

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But no, nothing to fix here right? *rolls eyes* How about actual consistency with how armor's look on female characters using the same skin regardless of what weight armor.

Also, it's plainly obvious that the "balloon" chest effect is where they have used the males mesh/texture (I'm not a graphic artist, so not sure which is the correct term here) for the female and just 'expanded' the chest area to show difference from the males. Sloppy and lazy... and something I believe they did previously admit to doing.

I'm completely lost to how to post pics here, nor do I really care to learn so have an awesome on moi! I don't know how you can look at those examples and say nothing is wrong with how some light armor fits the female form.

mesmerizedish

Breasts are squishy. If you tighten cloth or leather over them, they will flatten. If you do not tighten cloth or leather over them, that cloth or leather will not magically tighten beneath the breasts to accentuate their shape. Instead you get a slight bulge where breast tissue is being compressed and then a mostly straight line down to the waist if secured by a belt. Metal does not deform (much), so of course the heavy armor will look bustier if it’s molded to be such (which is its own problem, but I don’t think ESO is that bad in this respect).

The Ra Gada light chestpiece is an accurate representation of what such an article of clothing would look like on someone with gigantic breasts. It really ought to be flatter for an average person’s chest.

Y’all should learn how breasts work, good heavens.

enjoyingcoma9

mesmerizedish wrote: »

Breasts are squishy. If you tighten cloth or leather over them, they will flatten. If you do not tighten cloth or leather over them, that cloth or leather will not magically tighten beneath the breasts to accentuate their shape. Instead you get a slight bulge where breast tissue is being compressed and then a mostly straight line down to the waist if secured by a belt. Metal does not deform (much), so of course the heavy armor will look bustier if it’s molded to be such (which is its own problem, but I don’t think ESO is that bad in this respect).

The Ra Gada light chestpiece is an accurate representation of what such an article of clothing would look like on someone with gigantic breasts. It really ought to be flatter for an average person’s chest.

Y’all should learn how breasts work, good heavens.

You should go and actually test out those styles, no matter the breast size on the character, the end result is a grossly distended chest which ignores the actual shape of the character.

And, yes, I know how breasts work.

mesmerizedish

enjoyingcoma9 wrote: »

mesmerizedish wrote: »

Breasts are squishy. If you tighten cloth or leather over them, they will flatten. If you do not tighten cloth or leather over them, that cloth or leather will not magically tighten beneath the breasts to accentuate their shape. Instead you get a slight bulge where breast tissue is being compressed and then a mostly straight line down to the waist if secured by a belt. Metal does not deform (much), so of course the heavy armor will look bustier if it’s molded to be such (which is its own problem, but I don’t think ESO is that bad in this respect).

The Ra Gada light chestpiece is an accurate representation of what such an article of clothing would look like on someone with gigantic breasts. It really ought to be flatter for an average person’s chest.

Y’all should learn how breasts work, good heavens.

You should go and actually test out those styles, no matter the breast size on the character, the end result is a grossly distended chest which ignores the actual shape of the character.

And, yes, I know how breasts work.

As I said, the Ra Gada light armor makes the character’s breasts look too big, so it sounds like we agree? Idunno what to tell you, buddy. I wasn’t really directly addressing you, so I’m not sure why you’re getting defensive.

enjoyingcoma9

Well that's awkward, I completely read your comment the wrong way @mesmerizedish. My apologies.

mesmerizedish

enjoyingcoma9 wrote: »

Well that's awkward, I completely read your comment the wrong way @mesmerizedish. My apologies.

No worries, misunderstandings happen all the time!

DanteYoda

Please don't remove any skimpy gears. or i have no reason to play anymore...

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

enjoyingcoma9 wrote: »

This was raised a few years ago and looks like it closed off with no real action - with the outfit system now in place it is painfully obvious that a number of the fabulous motifs (including worm cult! So so sad) are just not morphed properly to female characters. Honestly, it looks like the entire torso is a shapeless balloon. Please remorph (no change to the style) to allow female characters to utilise all motifs without looking like bizarre gas filled weirdos.

Specially these are the most problematic:

Bad
Aldmeri (completely flat)
Daggerfall
Ebonheart
Hlaalu
Ra gada

Not great
Abahs watch
Ashlander
Order of the hour
Worm cult

i like how worm cult heavy looks on ma kitteh! besides this game needs more bulkier heavy armors...and stomping boots!

Pink_Violinz

DanteYoda wrote: »

Please don't remove any skimpy gears. or i have no reason to play anymore...

I don't really think that was the argument, more of some armors (especially heavy) completely warp a female's body and make them look bloated and misshapen.

Dw, I too love my skimpy armors

enjoyingcoma9

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

i like how worm cult heavy looks on ma kitteh! besides this game needs more bulkier heavy armors...and stomping boots!

Worm heavy looks amazing, worm light imo isnt morphed properly.

Sevn

mesmerizedish wrote: »

Breasts are squishy. If you tighten cloth or leather over them, they will flatten. If you do not tighten cloth or leather over them, that cloth or leather will not magically tighten beneath the breasts to accentuate their shape. Instead you get a slight bulge where breast tissue is being compressed and then a mostly straight line down to the waist if secured by a belt. Metal does not deform (much), so of course the heavy armor will look bustier if it’s molded to be such (which is its own problem, but I don’t think ESO is that bad in this respect).

The Ra Gada light chestpiece is an accurate representation of what such an article of clothing would look like on someone with gigantic breasts. It really ought to be flatter for an average person’s chest.

Y’all should learn how breasts work, good heavens.

Ok, answer this, why does the medium (leather) version fit appropriately but not the light (cloth)?

C'mon people this isn't by design, they even stated so, they simply took the male version and lazily applied it to the female version. Why are you guys defending this when they have already stated it was not by design themselves?

Tan9oSuccka

I’m glad I’m not the only one. Some of the styles look boxy and strange. I’m not one for bare stomach type cutesie armor styles.

It’s almost like they made a generic size to accommodate both genders.

platonicidealgirlfriend

Kamatsu wrote: »

I read this thread and see some people saying "We don't want all armor to be skintight boob hugging armor" and defending the way the armor's look.

I really think you should take the time to actually look at the armors. What you'll find in some of the cases is the medium & heavy armor's 'contour' to show female breasts, while the light armor has a weird distorted shape over the chest area. So it's ok for medium and heavy armor to have boob contours but not light armor?

For example, Ra Gada:

Female Light vs Female Heavy:

Worm Cult:

Light vs Heavy:

Worm Cult isn't as obvious, but you can clearly see boob line/sculpting on the heavy armor, with weird balloon over chest of the light. It's way more obvious when you look at the front:

But no, nothing to fix here right? *rolls eyes* How about actual consistency with how armor's look on female characters using the same skin regardless of what weight armor.

Also, it's plainly obvious that the "balloon" chest effect is where they have used the males mesh/texture (I'm not a graphic artist, so not sure which is the correct term here) for the female and just 'expanded' the chest area to show difference from the males. Sloppy and lazy... and something I believe they did previously admit to doing.

I much prefer the "bad" ones in all three instances. Contouring what's supposed to be highly protective active wear to the body seems dubious, so I guess the question is, if you all know how boobs work, have you ever tried to run for the bus in a tight jacket?

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Jade1986

platonicidealgirlfriend wrote: »

tbh i like having armor sets that actually fit like armor instead of like spandex. I don't need my character's breasts saran-wrapped in steel plate

Thats totally fine, but they shouldnt be SO big that your toon could fit twice in there.

Jade1986

platonicidealgirlfriend wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

platonicidealgirlfriend wrote: »

tbh i like having armor sets that actually fit like armor instead of like spandex. I don't need my character's breasts saran-wrapped in steel plate

I'm certain the majority of players are talking non steel armor. In what world does cloth NOT fit to form? Leather? Armor is more than just a steel plated suit.

There is nothing sexualized about having armor that fits the female form properly. You didn't explicitly state that, but it is definitely implied with that spandex comment.

How is armor fitted to the female form a bad thing? No one is asking for skin to be showing or for breasts to be popping out, just simply asking for cloth and leather armor to behave like cloth and leather should.

real question: do you have a pair of breasts and have you ever worn a leather jacket over them? cuz in my experience, each one of my nice leather jackets flattens me a bit even when they're very well tailored.

have this random pap shot of TS to illustrate my point.

Taylor swift really isnt the best example, for a petite woman with itty bitties, yeah, thats accurate, but for average or larger sizes thats not the case. Hell, even I have A's and they show more than swifts in a leather jacket.