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VoiDGhOs7

Can I research more than one jewelry Trait at once?

No. This is because the Lapidary Research Passive Skill does not grant the ability to research more than one Trait simultaneously (it only reduces research time).

You cannot research a Trait for a ring and a Trait for a necklace simultaneously. This is different to other Crafting Skill Lines where you can research up to three different Traits at once if you put Skill Points into relevant Passive Skills.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26357?Check-out-Jewelry-Crafting-With-this-Preview-&-Guide

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Geroken777

Its only 2 apparel, ring and necklace. The research time is not gonna be as long as you think.

strangeradnd

With only rings and necklaces I am not surprised by this. Two at once would have everyone finished in a no time.

VaranisArano

Well, if they come out with Jewelry research scrolls before most players have managed to research the traits, will those be pay-2-win?

Turelus

strangeradnd wrote: »

With only rings and necklaces I am not surprised by this. Two at once would have everyone finished in a no time.

Yeah not really shocked either. They want it to take some time and be something new, not another do it in the first day thing.

Apache_Kid

The marketing team and the dev team worked really well together on this one it seems. Everything poised for those jewelry research crown scrolls...

AlnilamE

OK. Rearranging my research schedule.

Beardimus

How on earth does that make it pay to win?

Your subject line (click bait) and thread content dont correlate. Everyone will be in the same boat on research.

And the debate on Jewellery crafting as a whole being pay to win is old and dull. Every DLC has things that are unique and shiny.

Tyrobag

I don't like that they decided to make jewelry crafting a massive time sink. They spread out the materials and made research take longer than any other crafting line

And its complete Bull that they decided to make what may be the strongest trait be PvP locked.

Peekachu99

Until evidence that two crafted sets are superior and offer a noticeable advantage surfaces, nothing about expediting research through crown/ crate scrolls bears any weight.

VaranisArano

Tyrobag wrote: »

I don't like that they decided to make jewelry crafting a massive time sink. They spread out the materials and made research take longer than any other crafting line

And its complete Bull that they decided to make what may be the strongest trait be PvP locked.

Oh. Noes. The trait that works like an execute is found in PVP. How awful. How could ZOS give those PVPers anything good.

Seriously?

Kiralyn2000

Geroken777 wrote: »

Its only 2 apparel, ring and necklace. The research time is not gonna be as long as you think.

Yep.

Smithing? 14 categories of passives to learn, 3 max slots - you can only research 21% of categories at once
Clothier? 14 categories, 3 max slots. Ditto
Woodworking is better, only 6 categories and 3 slots. So, 50%.

Jewelry has only two sets of traits, rings & necklaces.

Seems like trying to whip up controversy where there is none.

Takes-No-Prisoner

Tyrobag wrote: »

I don't like that they decided to make jewelry crafting a massive time sink. They spread out the materials and made research take longer than any other crafting line

And its complete Bull that they decided to make what may be the strongest trait be PvP locked.

The article states it can be traded,

Finally, if you wish, you can acquire Trait items from other players, too. Acquiring rings and necklaces with these new Traits and the Trait materials themselves takes you all over Tamriel and has you participate in a wide variety of activities.

Ley

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Seems like trying to whip up controversy where there is none.

Isn't that what the forums are for? If not I've severely misinterpreted the function of the forums.

Teeba_Shei

Just looking to get the traits? Research a bunch of traits on multiple characters and just transmog what you want. If you actually want to craft gear though you're better off with 2 characters each doing neck or ring.

Eleandor

If the difference between you and winning is a fully researched jewelry trait line, I think you have a bigger issue at hand

Jhalin

It's not pay to win but it sure as hell is going to be a lackluster grind

At least we only really need 6 traits researched to make the most common crafted sets.

Conduit0

Being able to buy items that reduce the time it takes to complete certain tasks is not pay to win. Someone becoming a nine trait master crafter before you doesn't infer some significant advantage to them.

Linaleah

and there I thought the biggest boon from jewelrycrafting was ability to upgrade jewelry to gold... which unlike research shouldn't take all that long at all. after all YOU can research new traits you want most - first, so that you have them available for transmutation and leave the old traits for last.

JKorr

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Can I research more than one jewelry Trait at once?

No. This is because the Lapidary Research Passive Skill does not grant the ability to research more than one Trait simultaneously (it only reduces research time).

You cannot research a Trait for a ring and a Trait for a necklace simultaneously. This is different to other Crafting Skill Lines where you can research up to three different Traits at once if you put Skill Points into relevant Passive Skills.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26357?Check-out-Jewelry-Crafting-With-this-Preview-&-Guide

You ever notice you can't research more than one type of item at once? Try researching sharpened sword, and precise sword at the same time. Or well-fitted cuirass and reinforced cuirass..... Not a huge thing, really. Now if the research time starts off at 90 days for the first piece, I'll join in the whining.

nimander99

I'm glad to have a new crafting skill added. Are people going to buy quick passes? Yes, ofc. Personally I'm going to do this old school.

It was a Major Achieve learning all traits back in the day, I had all traits learned just before B2P launch.

Ill do the same with Jewelry crafting, gives me something to earn again!

BaylorCorvette

None issue.

SydneyGrey

Beardimus wrote: »

How on earth does that make it pay to win?
Your subject line (click bait) and thread content dont correlate. Everyone will be in the same boat on research.

Ikr? I was staring at the headline, then reading his post, and trying to figure out how "pay to win" was involved there.

Kalante

if the first trait to research takes 2 days or even 5 days then i can say that zos is desperately trying to money grab with all the crown research scrolls that conveniently just appeared in the crown store. All the other research traits for the first time only takes like what? two or four hours? With it only being rings and necklace i do not doubt that they also raised the research timer to ridiculous levels.

jedtb16_ESO

Kalante wrote: »

if the first trait to research takes 20 days then i can say that zos is desperately trying to money grab with all the crown research scrolls that conveniently just appeared in the crown store.

hmm... haven't seen a jewellery crafting one.

Kalante

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

if the first trait to research takes 20 days then i can say that zos is desperately trying to money grab with all the crown research scrolls that conveniently just appeared in the crown store.

hmm... haven't seen a jewellery crafting one.

yea so what? what is stopping them from putting one. They already showed they can

bellatrixed

The literal definition of pay to win is you can only get something if you pay $$$ for it.

The very fact the jewelry you get from crafting can be traded to other players immediately invalidates that argument.

If you can buy it with gold, it's not P2W.

Inarre

how the eff is this pay to win

jedtb16_ESO

Kalante wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

if the first trait to research takes 20 days then i can say that zos is desperately trying to money grab with all the crown research scrolls that conveniently just appeared in the crown store.

hmm... haven't seen a jewellery crafting one.

yea so what? what is stopping them from putting one. They already showed they can

thank you for that rational, reasoned response.

Aebaradath

karekiz

Ummm

Anyone know if the Writ vendor sell research reduction scrolls similar to the other tradeskills?