I'm so angry! DLC not available on both servers!

heaven13

The biggest issue, as noted above, is that if you buy crowns, the balance is account wide. If you spend 1500 crowns to buy a new character slot on NA, when you switch to EU you will not have that character slot AND be out 1500 crowns. Double-dipping indeed.

Bhaal5

gnarlyvandal wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Was always one of thr major complaints with the first reviews with this game. Their love of pay walls. Pay wall race, pay wall class, pay wall dlc.... All they want is to get your money for something you already have

Lost me at pay wall class. That’s not a thing.

I do however find this server-bound practice really irritating, all I wanted were my outfits -_-

Pay wall class, that be the warden hidden behind the morrowind expansion, though summerset will remove it then its going to be a skill line hidden behind a paywall. So it is very much a thing, zos loves it.

notimetocare

Klixen wrote: »

Quite Frankly, this is the most outrageous thing I've ever heard!

I've played a lot of games (ArcheAge for instance) that had some shady practices. But this trick really takes the cake.

There is no warning anywhere that anything you buy is 'server' bound and not account bound (like every other game in the universe).

There should be a BIG BOLD warning about this on the store page. This lack of disclosure has left me feeling angry and cheated.

Well, I've been slowly saving up to buy all the DLC, but I won't be buying anymore now.

Edit: I bought Morrowind a few weeks back when it was on sale and luckily it seems to be 'account' bound so it's available on both servers. So it looks like it's just the DLC that people need to be warned about.

I mean... Basic logic dictates this outcome. Not to mention, im pretty sure ZoS even stated this ages ago. Simple Google search mate

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

lol i knew this the very second eso went live 4 years ago...i stick with EU cuz here we have the real deal.

Rohamad_Ali

I never understood why this is either . Especially for oceanic customers that may want to try EU instead of NA . Couldn't be that hard to add I don't think .

swippy

Bhaal5 wrote: »

gnarlyvandal wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Was always one of thr major complaints with the first reviews with this game. Their love of pay walls. Pay wall race, pay wall class, pay wall dlc.... All they want is to get your money for something you already have

Lost me at pay wall class. That’s not a thing.

I do however find this server-bound practice really irritating, all I wanted were my outfits -_-

Pay wall class, that be the warden hidden behind the morrowind expansion, though summerset will remove it then its going to be a skill line hidden behind a paywall. So it is very much a thing, zos loves it.

how did they know the Warden would be a pay wall class when they were writing the first reviews of the game, even though Morrowind happened 3 years afterward? that's pretty spooky! i'd love to see those reviews.

Imza

gnarlyvandal wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Was always one of thr major complaints with the first reviews with this game. Their love of pay walls. Pay wall race, pay wall class, pay wall dlc.... All they want is to get your money for something you already have

Lost me at pay wall class. That’s not a thing.

I do however find this server-bound practice really irritating, all I wanted were my outfits -_-

It is a thing:-

the Warden class is soon to be behind the paywall (after Summerset goes live) if you have not already purchased Morrowind.

Lilyanne

I was kinda looking forward to changing servers as well. Did that a few weeks ago. Never really did it though - not only are the DLC missing but also every single costume, mount, pet. It's really just stuff that is connected to the account without the use of the crown shop that's available. Which isn't enough, for me. Even if I wouldn't care too much about (most) DLC right now, I'd miss my goats (e.g.) too much. And yeah, almost anything else that I bought there. Even though it's probably considered "vanity", I don't care, I bought it for a reason. So I won't change servers at any point I guess. I work late shifts, so I'm often around when most of the other European players are at work. When they are around I'm still at work and I get back when most said good night and went off.

laksikus

@Klixen there is also the elder scrolls gold edition,that contains base game and the 4 first dlcs.
Amd that Edition should count for NA and EU

Huyen

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Accounts are separated by Platform and Server. None of the stuff you purchased on one Server can be used on another.

That's why whenever someone talks about making a new account elsewhere, everyone tells them they'll be starting over from scratch.

Not entirely true. As I said, anything purchased with crowns is server specific. Characters you create are also Server Specific. Chapters you buy outright and your actual accounts are good on both servers. IE: I can log into both servers with this @SteveCampsOut account and my Morrowind and soon Summerset will be active on both servers, but each server has it's own set of characters and DLC's depending on whether or not I purchased them from the crown store. ESO+ is also not server specific. If I'm ESO+ on NA I'm also ESO+ on EU. It's simply crown purchases and characters that are different.

Its still platform specific sadly. PC broke down a few months ago and decided to switch to PS4 instead. Had to rebuy everything, even tho I can link both accounts together on the ESO page...I call bs for this type of server-specific handeling of accounts.

Saturnana

I wouldn't mind the server-specific purchases from the crown store if they only tweaked one little thing: Make sure that any crowns you purchase (or get from ESO+) are available on both servers, but don't reduce the balance of one server for a purchase on the other.

I.e. I get 4500 crowns every 3 months from my sub and I get to spend those 4500 crowns on both servers independently. So if I spend 1500 crowns on a DLC for the EU server, I'd have 3000 crowns left on that server, but I'd still have 4500 to spend on NA (thus being able to buy the same DLCs with the same crowns on both servers, removing the need for ZOS to implement some sort of cross-server DLC code or w/e, which they seem to have a problem with).

Edit: as it currently stands, crowns are account bound. Meaning that you can spend them on both servers, but whatever you buy won't be available for you on both servers. Which sucks.

Woeler

ESO+ problem solved.

Jayman1000

Klixen wrote: »

I'm furious at the moment! With all the trouble on the EU server, I decided to go back to the NA server (I originally started on the NA server, but there were just too many people, so I switched to the EU server).

Well, I've just logged into the NA server and discovered that none of my DLC (Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood) are available on this server.

Is this correct? Or have I done something wrong and missed a step?

I didn't know this. If this is on purpose, it's a deplorable business tactic, we shouldn't have to play for the same content twice just because we want to play on the other server. I mean this is DLC, access to the game world and quests. I think there's a huge difference from purchasing crates and items from the crown store and then DLC access. That is just ridiculous.

Ragged_Claw

lnsane wrote: »

I wouldn't mind the server-specific purchases from the crown store if they only tweaked one little thing: Make sure that any crowns you purchase (or get from ESO+) are available on both servers, but don't reduce the balance of one server for a purchase on the other.

I.e. I get 4500 crowns every 3 months from my sub and I get to spend those 4500 crowns on both servers independently. So if I spend 1500 crowns on a DLC for the EU server, I'd have 3000 crowns left on that server, but I'd still have 4500 to spend on NA (thus being able to buy the same DLCs with the same crowns on both servers, removing the need for ZOS to implement some sort of cross-server DLC code or w/e, which they seem to have a problem with).

Edit: as it currently stands, crowns are account bound. Meaning that you can spend them on both servers, but whatever you buy won't be available for you on both servers. Which sucks.

Exactly this, and this is how it USED to be. I started playing on the NA server around a year after launch and your crown balance was separate on each server. So it worked exactly as you say, if I bought a mount on EU, I didn't have it on NA, but I still had the full crown balance. I can't remember exactly when they announced that this would no longer be the case or even why, but they could do it if they wanted to basically.

Elsonso

Bhaal5 wrote: »

gnarlyvandal wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Was always one of thr major complaints with the first reviews with this game. Their love of pay walls. Pay wall race, pay wall class, pay wall dlc.... All they want is to get your money for something you already have

Lost me at pay wall class. That’s not a thing.

I do however find this server-bound practice really irritating, all I wanted were my outfits -_-

Pay wall class, that be the warden hidden behind the morrowind expansion, though summerset will remove it then its going to be a skill line hidden behind a paywall. So it is very much a thing, zos loves it.

Right, and even after Summerset, Warden is a premium option in the Crown Store.

swippy wrote: »

how did they know the Warden would be a pay wall class when they were writing the first reviews of the game, even though Morrowind happened 3 years afterward? that's pretty spooky! i'd love to see those reviews.

Imperial has always been behind a pay wall. Warden is the second, not the first, class or race to be that way. Looking back, it was already clear that ZOS/Bethesda has no reservations when it comes to this.

lnsane wrote: »

Edit: as it currently stands, crowns are account bound. Meaning that you can spend them on both servers, but whatever you buy won't be available for you on both servers. Which sucks.

This is the one thing that they should have done differently out of the gate. Either make it so that everything was locked to the server or make it so that nothing was. The split they have right now is obviously confusing to some because it is counter-intuitive.

I think they did it this way for cost and flexibility reasons because the game started out subscription only. They designed the servers to be very independent because they didn't need more than that. They only seem to share the account system, which was all they needed to share. This is why they do the gyrations on PTS to copy characters from EU and NA at alternating times. There is no central character database between geographies, so they really have no way to share Crown Store purchases.

When they added the Crown Store, they should have linked the megaservers, by platform. Crown Store purchases, and all of the other account-wide stuff obtained from inside the game, obtained in one geography would be available in both. This would have been the player-friendly thing to do, even if it cost them some in revenue and additional development expense.

I have characters on both NA and EU, but I play mainly on NA. EU just feels like it isn't "home". Having all of the in-game account-wide stuff available would make a difference. There are some people on the EU server I would have liked to play with, but that will never happen.

Lilyanne

Woeler wrote: »

ESO+ problem solved.

Yeah, nah. DLC = yes. Anything else = nope.
Any mount, vanity pet, costume, house (etc.) wouldn't be there and would still need to be purchased twice.
--- doesn't include the beta monkey, Morrowind, etc. - these are available on both servers since they are account bound.

Which I didn't know. I knew about the character. If I would have known I might have gotten at least the goats twice. Crazy? Yeah, maybe. I simply won't switch and that's alright for me now, I'll find times where I can play with guildmates and at other times I'll just enjoy less crowded places (always look on the bright side ) but I can still understand why this might be something that upsets others.