Morrowind 20% Off - Chapter? DLC?

MacCait

Popped into PSN store this morning... on the 'What's Hot' page it shows Morrowind with 20% off... supposedly discounted down from £19.99 to £15.99 (though I just purchased it at the standard non-sale price in mid February for £14.99!!

I should be surprised, but I am not... this is just one more nail in the coffin with regards to the respect I have lost for all that is ZOS.

This is a new low. This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game (Warden side purchase via crowns obviously). Not only this but the sale price is actually £1 more expensive than the standard price in mid February.

EDIT: My mistake, I meant to say PART of Morrowind will soon be free in game (Battlegrounds)... yet is still being advertised as part of Morrowind in this sale. AND Morrowind wil soon be free in game to ESO+ subscribers, just as with any other DLC.

I double checked to see if this was offering Summerset too, but no, it's the price for Morrowind only! Whichever player buy this package will only get Morrowind.

Love ESO, and I like a lot of the personalities at ZOS... but overall as a company, these marketing strategies do come across as complete contempt for the playerbase.

Isn't this a clear contradiction of your recent (https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26355?Coming-Soon:-Battlegrounds-for-All-&-Morrowind-Moving-to-Crown-Store-&-ESO-Plus!) article? Where you stated on the 6th April 2018:

"You might have already noticed, but we've changed which versions of The Elder Scrolls Online are available for purchase in stores. The product known as The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited is no longer available via digital retailers (ESO Store, Steam, PSN, Xbox Store, etc) and is no longer being produced for physical retailers. In its stead, we are renaming the product currently known as The Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind to simply The Elder Scrolls Online, and it is becoming the base game version of ESO. This means that moving forward, if you purchase this new base game—The Elder Scrolls Online, not The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited—it will include the Morrowind Chapter."

Did you mean to add to the end of that paragraph ...'but before we do that, we'd like to offer Morrowind at 20% off, just to rip off a few more unsuspecting players and squeeze a bit more cash out of Morrowind'.

As I said in a post on the Re: Official Discussion Thread for "Battlegrounds for All & Morrowind Moving to Crown Store" ... ...What you seem to have communicated here is 'its a chapter!... until we say it isn't... then its a dlc that you'll get as a ESO+ member after all.'

EDIT: ADDED info: As a few maybe unable to see why some people may feel ripped off at this so called offer, I'd offer the following scenarios:

If you were a new player to ESO and you bought what you felt was a good deal, Morrowind on sale, only to log in and immediately learn (from the ESO crown store advert upon login) that you could of just pre-ordered Summerset and had Morrowind for free, then you may feel ripped off. Going to PSN and then seeing that indeed Morrowind is free with Summerset may only compound that feeling. If you then wanted Summerset, you would then need to pay a further £19.99 as an upgrade.

If you are a new player to ESO and you get caught in the above situation where you have purchased Morrowind on this offer, and then join ESO+ only to learn that it is about to come to ESO+ as a DLC, and that you could of experienced Morrowind for free under ESO+, Battlegrounds for free as base game, and just purchased the Warden (if it is not included as a part of ESO+), then you may again feel ripped off.

So what could have been done differently?

For starters it may have been a good idea not to have this 'Chapter' issue at all (something that in itself divided the community in discussion), and just added Battlegrounds as basegame, Morrowind as a DLC, while charging crowns for the Warden. Same with future updates such as Jewellery crafting, which arguably should be base game.

But even so... It may be a good idea NOT to be showing an offer on Morrowind on sale, given the fact of the recent statements from the article mentioned above and at a time when players can get Morrowind for free with Summerset. Instead of confusing people with so many versions of ESO they can buy, it may have been a good idea to just have stuck with the Summerset pre-order including Morrowind and base game.

MinarasLaure

Wow, this is bad lol

Own

Wow, it should be 80% off for impatient people. They just did it backwards!

MyKillv2.0

This title made me chuckle.

Avran_Sylt

I'm actually not sure if ZoS directly handles PSN store sales. (given that Sony gets a cut, and it's their platform). If they have free reign over pricing and sales, then yes, this is BS. Otherwise, it could possibly be some mixup.

I know at least for Warframe, Platinum Sales (more common on PC, and the in-game premium currency) are heavily restricted by Sony and Microsoft. (Don't ask me why, you would assume they'd make more money by incorporating them)

RexyCat

It is really confusing how Zeni change name from ESO Tamriel unlimited to become only ESO. How is potential buyers going to know which is which?

Perwulf

Deceptive marketing at its finest. Can't wait for 2019 for more!

VexingArcanist

Same thing on steam. Make money while going out the door.

Less than 2 months ago my nephew was dead set on getting this game on xbox and I recommended the Gold Edition as I thought it was a very good deal (I had got that edition on PC and Xbox in early December). However it was no longer offered on Xbox or Steam? Yeah.....

GreenhaloX

Hey.. it's a business and one such for profit making. I believe as you're talking about PSN, it's Sony and really don't have Zenimax's hands on it. Morrowind is still listed at $29 USC on ZOS's store site, as I was curious and checked it out. Now, I don't know the fine details of the contract Sony/PSN or Microsoft/Xbox has with Zen, but as for the discount by PSN, seems Sony probably is trying to recoop the money pending lost or getting in some last moment sale in before Morrowind becomes free in May/June; given those that will purchase Summerset.

Even with Summerset, it's currently listed at $39, as a pre-release special, and I'm sure it will bounce up to the $50s on release day. $39 is still too much for me as an add-on to a game. Heck, my frugal arse rarely purchased any new full game over $20. ESO, Dragon Age Inquisition and The Witcher 3 were my only exceptions. I believe I had purchased those around the $24 or $25 mark. I'm just one who is fine to wait out until the game is much, much less. Could be a year or two, but I'm ok with it. Like Skyrim, I believe I finally bought it when it was $18 or $19. I have never played any Zen/Bethesda game prior and was skeptical of Skyrim, even though, it was highly acclaimed. I finally got into it after a couple years since it was released, and I was glad I did. Skyrim is among my top list of favorite games of all time. If it wasn't for Skyrim, I would probably never got into ESO.

I finally bought Morrowind many moons ago when it was on sale for $9.99, and I'm fine to do the same for the Summerset sale; doesn't matter if 6 months or a year later. It's just an add-on and not a full game. Morrowind was initially about $59 at release. That's the same as other new full game prices. Plus, since getting Morrowind, I have yet to continue on pass the intro quest or rarely travel there for anything other than to craft Shacklebreaker. There is no way I'm paying a full game's price for an add-on and doesn't matter how good the full game is. Hey, as always.. to each their own; your pockets. Although, if Summerset would be around $18-$20, I may be inclined to purchase it upon release.

Violynne

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

MacCait

Violynne wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

Morrowind IS free with preorder of Summerset, AND most of Morrowind WILL become base game as per their own article

MacCait

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

I'm actually not sure if ZoS directly handles PSN store sales. (given that Sony gets a cut, and it's their platform). If they have free reign over pricing and sales, then yes, this is BS. Otherwise, it could possibly be some mixup.

I know at least for Warframe, Platinum Sales (more common on PC, and the in-game premium currency) are heavily restricted by Sony and Microsoft. (Don't ask me why, you would assume they'd make more money by incorporating them)

ZOS: "The product known as The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited is no longer available via digital retailers (ESO Store, Steam, PSN, Xbox Store, etc) and is no longer being produced for physical retailers. In its stead, we are renaming the product currently known as The Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind to simply The Elder Scrolls Online, and it is becoming the base game version of ESO"

Dominoid

MacCait wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

Morrowind IS free with preorder of Summerset, AND most of Morrowind WILL become base game as per their own article

Morrowind is becoming the base game PURCHASE. It’s not converting to base game for people who own Tamriel Unlimited or an older copy of the base game. They still need to buy it. There is nothing wrong with this sale. It’s still needed. Although battlegrounds are becoming base game but this is not “most of Morrowind”.

rhapsodious

MacCait wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

Morrowind IS free with preorder of Summerset, AND most of Morrowind WILL become base game as per their own article

No, it's being added to what's considered the base game to become the new "base game" for new players per the article. It doesn't affect people who currently own ESO:TU but do not own Morrowind. They do not get Morrowind for free unless they preorder Summerset.

MacCait

Ok so....:

NewBlacksmurf

Dominoid wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

Morrowind IS free with preorder of Summerset, AND most of Morrowind WILL become base game as per their own article

Morrowind is becoming the base game PURCHASE. It’s not converting to base game for people who own Tamriel Unlimited or an older copy of the base game. They still need to buy it. There is nothing wrong with this sale. It’s still needed. Although battlegrounds are becoming base game but this is not “most of Morrowind”.

There actually is a problem with this and the problem is it’s unethical practices. Consider the price for the digital or physical copies of the upcoming Summerset Isles, it would be most ethical to only sale the prior Morrowind bundles as the new game sku only.

This removes confusion and the possibility that someone spends the same amount of money which would provide Summerset and Morrowind.

So it then becomes clear the company has changed the game names and the customer can be informed on what options there are to purchase in this new rebranding of prior sku’s


$20.99 is the Morrowind chapter full game with the base game (old sku)

$29.99 is the Summer Set upgrade that includes Morrowind.

$39.99 is all three

Tandor

rhapsodious wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

Morrowind IS free with preorder of Summerset, AND most of Morrowind WILL become base game as per their own article

No, it's being added to what's considered the base game to become the new "base game" for new players per the article. It doesn't affect people who currently own ESO:TU but do not own Morrowind. They do not get Morrowind for free unless they preorder Summerset.

Or they subscribe, in which case they will get the zone content but not the warden class.

Last time I recall a problem coming up with special offers on the console stores I'm pretty sure it was explained that ZOS have no control over the listing and pricing in those stores.

I do think that clarity and transparency in communication aren't the company's strong suit (other than at community manager level). I used to find the same thing with SOE in my many dealings with them over the years (and it didn't improve when they became DBG) - they could produce wonderful games but hadn't a clue how to look after their customers. ZOS aren't as bad in my experience, but it certainly looks like they're trying hard to be!

Dominoid

MacCait wrote: »

Ok so....:

Ya so? Morrowind is on sale. You are mistaken that you think Morrowind is becoming a FREE upgrade for all players upon update 18's release.It's not. What you own on June 5th will remain the same with the exception of Battlegrounds.

MacCait

Dominoid wrote: »

Morrowind is becoming the base game PURCHASE. It’s not converting to base game for people who own Tamriel Unlimited or an older copy of the base game. They still need to buy it. There is nothing wrong with this sale. It’s still needed. Although battlegrounds are becoming base game but this is not “most of Morrowind”.

You say the sale is still needed... Why? If Morrowind is becoming the base game purchase, why is a sale on Morrowind specifically needed?

Dominoid

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

Morrowind IS free with preorder of Summerset, AND most of Morrowind WILL become base game as per their own article

Morrowind is becoming the base game PURCHASE. It’s not converting to base game for people who own Tamriel Unlimited or an older copy of the base game. They still need to buy it. There is nothing wrong with this sale. It’s still needed. Although battlegrounds are becoming base game but this is not “most of Morrowind”.

There actually is a problem with this and the problem is it’s unethical practices. Consider the price for the digital or physical copies of the upcoming Summerset Isles, it would be most ethical to only sale the prior Morrowind bundles as the new game sku only.

This removes confusion and the possibility that someone spends the same amount of money which would provide Summerset and Morrowind.

So it then becomes clear the company has changed the game names and the customer can be informed on what options there are to purchase in this new rebranding of prior sku’s

No. Right now they can buy Morrowind for $19.99 or Summerset which as a pre-order bonus includes Morrwoind as a kicker) for $40. There is no "unethical" practice.

MacCait

Dominoid wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

Ok so....:

Ya so? Morrowind is on sale. You are mistaken that you think Morrowind is becoming a FREE upgrade for all players upon update 18's release.It's not. What you own on June 5th will remain the same with the exception of Battlegrounds.

Mr Community Ambassador, please do not twist my words. I did not say "Morrowind is becoming a FREE upgrade"

Dominoid

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

Morrowind IS free with preorder of Summerset, AND most of Morrowind WILL become base game as per their own article

Morrowind is becoming the base game PURCHASE. It’s not converting to base game for people who own Tamriel Unlimited or an older copy of the base game. They still need to buy it. There is nothing wrong with this sale. It’s still needed. Although battlegrounds are becoming base game but this is not “most of Morrowind”.

There actually is a problem with this and the problem is it’s unethical practices. Consider the price for the digital or physical copies of the upcoming Summerset Isles, it would be most ethical to only sale the prior Morrowind bundles as the new game sku only.

This removes confusion and the possibility that someone spends the same amount of money which would provide Summerset and Morrowind.

So it then becomes clear the company has changed the game names and the customer can be informed on what options there are to purchase in this new rebranding of prior sku’s

No. Right now they can buy Morrowind for $19.99 or Summerset which as a pre-order bonus includes Morrwoind as akicker) for $40. There is no "unethical" practice.

MacCait wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

Morrowind is becoming the base game PURCHASE. It’s not converting to base game for people who own Tamriel Unlimited or an older copy of the base game. They still need to buy it. There is nothing wrong with this sale. It’s still needed. Although battlegrounds are becoming base game but this is not “most of Morrowind”.

You say the sale is still needed... Why? If Morrowind is becoming the base game purchase, why is a sale on Morrowind specifically needed?

What exactly is your complaint? You seem to be changing it. First it was they are charging for something that is becoming free (which wasn't true). Now your complaint is what? That they are running a sale now for an item that will be rebranded in a few months. So because they are saying ESO Morrowind is now on sale and in two months they will simply say "Elder Scroll Online" is on sale, that's your issue? Where is the consumer being ripped off here? EXACTLY. PLEASE.

rhapsodious

Tandor wrote: »

rhapsodious wrote: »

No, it's being added to what's considered the base game to become the new "base game" for new players per the article. It doesn't affect people who currently own ESO:TU but do not own Morrowind. They do not get Morrowind for free unless they preorder Summerset.

Or they subscribe, in which case they will get the zone content but not the warden class.

Last time I recall a problem coming up with special offers on the console stores I'm pretty sure it was explained that ZOS have no control over the listing and pricing in those stores.

I do think that clarity and transparency in communication aren't the company's strong suit (other than at community manager level). I used to find the same thing with SOE in my many dealings with them over the years (and it didn't improve when they became DBG) - they could produce wonderful games but hadn't a clue how to look after their customers. ZOS aren't as bad in my experience, but it certainly looks like they're trying hard to be!

Right, "free" with ESO+ if you want to consider that free. :P But the same could be said for "free with Summerset purchase". In any case, this is meant to grandfather in existing players into what will become the new normal.

MacCait wrote: »

You say the sale is still needed... Why? If Morrowind is becoming the base game purchase, why is a sale on Morrowind specifically needed?

Because the Morrowind license is not being applied to existing accounts that do not have it. Going forward, all new purchases will include Morrowind, but for existing purchases that do not have it, they're giving you multiple options to acquire it.

Anotherone773

Its like no one here has ever played video games before and doesnt know that new content depreciates very quickly. Its very common. Everything ZOS is doing is pretty much industry standard practices and has been for a long time. They also have frequent sales on everything just like every other business on the planet. Do you complain when your favorite stores put something on sale this week that you bought last month? People are ridiculous and need to spend more time living in the real world.

MacCait

Dominoid wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

Morrowind IS free with preorder of Summerset, AND most of Morrowind WILL become base game as per their own article

Morrowind is becoming the base game PURCHASE. It’s not converting to base game for people who own Tamriel Unlimited or an older copy of the base game. They still need to buy it. There is nothing wrong with this sale. It’s still needed. Although battlegrounds are becoming base game but this is not “most of Morrowind”.

There actually is a problem with this and the problem is it’s unethical practices. Consider the price for the digital or physical copies of the upcoming Summerset Isles, it would be most ethical to only sale the prior Morrowind bundles as the new game sku only.

This removes confusion and the possibility that someone spends the same amount of money which would provide Summerset and Morrowind.

So it then becomes clear the company has changed the game names and the customer can be informed on what options there are to purchase in this new rebranding of prior sku’s

No. Right now they can buy Morrowind for $19.99 or Summerset which as a pre-order bonus includes Morrwoind as akicker) for $40. There is no "unethical" practice.

Well, with all respect to you good sir... that seems subjective at best.

Dominoid

MacCait wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

Ok so....:

Ya so? Morrowind is on sale. You are mistaken that you think Morrowind is becoming a FREE upgrade for all players upon update 18's release.It's not. What you own on June 5th will remain the same with the exception of Battlegrounds.

Mr Community Ambassador, please do not twist my words. I did not say "Morrowind is becoming a FREE upgrade"

Your TOP post:

This is a new low. This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game

AND will soon be free in game. Sorry I added the word "upgrade".

Dominoid

MacCait wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

Morrowind IS free with preorder of Summerset, AND most of Morrowind WILL become base game as per their own article

Morrowind is becoming the base game PURCHASE. It’s not converting to base game for people who own Tamriel Unlimited or an older copy of the base game. They still need to buy it. There is nothing wrong with this sale. It’s still needed. Although battlegrounds are becoming base game but this is not “most of Morrowind”.

There actually is a problem with this and the problem is it’s unethical practices. Consider the price for the digital or physical copies of the upcoming Summerset Isles, it would be most ethical to only sale the prior Morrowind bundles as the new game sku only.

This removes confusion and the possibility that someone spends the same amount of money which would provide Summerset and Morrowind.

So it then becomes clear the company has changed the game names and the customer can be informed on what options there are to purchase in this new rebranding of prior sku’s

No. Right now they can buy Morrowind for $19.99 or Summerset which as a pre-order bonus includes Morrwoind as akicker) for $40. There is no "unethical" practice.

Well, with all respect to you good sir... that seems subjective at best.

Math is not subjective. Facts are not subjective. If someone wants just Morrowind the cheapest route is $20. You're complaint is that they can get Morrowind Free by purchasing Summerset. Agreed for $40.

MacCait

Dominoid wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

This is clearly bait to catch the last few unaware suckers that don't realise Morrowind is being given free with Summerset, AND will soon be free in game..

Morrowind isn't free to anyone. It requires a purchase, no matter what.

Summerset gets you a copy of Morrowind. You could flip this around and say you're paying $40 for Morrowind, but are getting Summerset free. Either way, washes out in the end. Both are just 50% (for the time being), which is what most preorders do.

The Crown store offering still requires a purchase.

The ESO+ offering requires a subscription.

Morrowind IS free with preorder of Summerset, AND most of Morrowind WILL become base game as per their own article

Morrowind is becoming the base game PURCHASE. It’s not converting to base game for people who own Tamriel Unlimited or an older copy of the base game. They still need to buy it. There is nothing wrong with this sale. It’s still needed. Although battlegrounds are becoming base game but this is not “most of Morrowind”.

There actually is a problem with this and the problem is it’s unethical practices. Consider the price for the digital or physical copies of the upcoming Summerset Isles, it would be most ethical to only sale the prior Morrowind bundles as the new game sku only.

This removes confusion and the possibility that someone spends the same amount of money which would provide Summerset and Morrowind.

So it then becomes clear the company has changed the game names and the customer can be informed on what options there are to purchase in this new rebranding of prior sku’s

No. Right now they can buy Morrowind for $19.99 or Summerset which as a pre-order bonus includes Morrwoind as akicker) for $40. There is no "unethical" practice.

MacCait wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

Morrowind is becoming the base game PURCHASE. It’s not converting to base game for people who own Tamriel Unlimited or an older copy of the base game. They still need to buy it. There is nothing wrong with this sale. It’s still needed. Although battlegrounds are becoming base game but this is not “most of Morrowind”.

You say the sale is still needed... Why? If Morrowind is becoming the base game purchase, why is a sale on Morrowind specifically needed?

What exactly is your complaint? You seem to be changing it. First it was they are charging for something that is becoming free (which wasn't true). Now your complaint is what? That they are running a sale now for an item that will be rebranded in a few months. So because they are saying ESO Morrowind is now on sale and in two months they will simply say "Elder Scroll Online" is on sale, that's your issue? Where is the consumer being ripped off here? EXACTLY. PLEASE.

I haven't changed anything, you are attempting to change what I have said. OK. My issue is that a week or so ago Summerset became a preorder, giving Morrowind free. This is selling for £29.99 to anyone who does not yet own ESO, and £19.99 for anyone. So now itself Morrowind is on sale for £15.99. Why? Why not just offer the Summerset preorder as it was last week?

This comes within days of the article stating that it will become a DLC after all, and will be available via crown store, while Battlegrounds will become basegame, and the Warden will be a separate purchase in crownstore.

So advertising Battlegrounds here as part of Morrwind seems underhanded.

Is it a chapter? Is it a DLC? is part of it basegame? or is it not?

This is coming across as a cash grab.

Why not simply offer the Summerset package that gives Morrowind with it for free?

exiars10

OP posted old news but sadly he interpreted it as typical fake news and for this on this forum you get a lot of likes. It's clear intention to get likes on spreading fake news.

Since February (maybe even in January, I had to check when exactly happened), Tamriel Unlimited is gone - base game became Morrowind and price was changed from 20 to 30 € which is logical as you get more content. In the same time, Gold version of game was also eliminated which had price of 50 € ? if I remember well.

So, nothing new, and nobody is getting Morrowind for free. You pay +50% more then for Tamriel Unlimited, but you get more content, and price is lower then Gold edition.

Also, Morrowind in ESO+ doesn't have Warden class, so OP is clearly spreading fake news on so many levels.

And let's not forget, Summerset pre-orders which include Morrowind - either as upgrade or comletely new game. Everything is so logical, but no, better to spread fake news.

Ohtimbar

ESO is not free. ESO Plus is not free. Morrowind is not free. Complaints, however, are free as the air.

MacCait

Dominoid wrote: »

[AND will soon be free in game. Sorry I added the word "upgrade".

OK, so if you are attempting to clean up any misunderstanding, adding your own words and taking something out of context doesn't help.

However, I can also admit that I could of been clearer in saying PART of Morrowind will be free as basegame (Battlegrounds).