guild trader system

Drachenfier

Varidian wrote: »

hmm... well, the problem I see is the centralised trade hub proposal.

what makes ESO realistic for its technology period is the fact that if you want to buy my items at my prices... you have to go and locate my trader. it adds to the competition. encourages you to seek me out.

I like it because it sets ESO aside from main MMO games.

personally all I have is Master merchant. I have no other add ons at all... don't want a map telling me the secrets of the universe I just need to know what to sell and when. what is the demand, where is the supply and what guild trader is best to sell it at.

that's what makes trading in ESO realistic.

with that said, I do not like the fact that when you bid on a guild trader it does not tell you if you are top bid or out bidden.
id like to see a system to tell you that your loosing a bid... doesn't need to tell me what the bid is. just that someone has bid above me.

The fact that i can mail an item to you no matter where you are in the world that you receive within a few minutes in this very game kinda defeats your argument.

Cpt_Teemo

ZiRM wrote: »

Smokewood wrote: »

Scrap the entire system.
Allow every player to have a personal vendor(s) in their home(s).
Place a new NPC type called the Vendor Search NPC in every major city and town.
Players can then use the new Vendor Search NPC to locate the item(s) they want, receive a waypoint(s) to said vendor(s), and then travel there to buy the item(s).

This would be waaaaaaaay better than the terrible system in place now.

^ would be a cross balance between the horrible system now and a pure auction house

wolfie1.0.

SugaComa wrote: »

I think the trader system should be changed completely ...

I think you shouldn't be allowed to donate gold ... Instead you can only claim taxes from purchases ...

To start with you can only trade with guild member once you earn so many taxes you get a choice X number of guild traders ... You can choose to hire one or bank your taxes until you have more to ascend to the next tier of traders ...

Every 90 days if you haven't bought a trader each member of the guild gets a tax return based on their own sales

This means more money back to the seller and less money into that stupid gold sink

What happens then is instead of a world economy you start to see guild economy.

You will more diverse guilds and need for PvP and pvers to mix together instead of staying anonymous behind 1million gold paywalls

This game should be about making friends not gold

1. This type of system only works if there is a very large or no cap on the amount of players that can join.
2. Guilds would become exclusive and not inclusive clubs
3. The competitiveness of the current system is what helps keeps prices stable
4. Recurring gold sinks keep the economy stable

CromulentForumID

Drachenfier wrote: »

Varidian wrote: »

hmm... well, the problem I see is the centralised trade hub proposal.

what makes ESO realistic for its technology period is the fact that if you want to buy my items at my prices... you have to go and locate my trader. it adds to the competition. encourages you to seek me out.

I like it because it sets ESO aside from main MMO games.

personally all I have is Master merchant. I have no other add ons at all... don't want a map telling me the secrets of the universe I just need to know what to sell and when. what is the demand, where is the supply and what guild trader is best to sell it at.

that's what makes trading in ESO realistic.

with that said, I do not like the fact that when you bid on a guild trader it does not tell you if you are top bid or out bidden.
id like to see a system to tell you that your loosing a bid... doesn't need to tell me what the bid is. just that someone has bid above me.

The fact that i can mail an item to you no matter where you are in the world that you receive within a few minutes in this very game kinda defeats your argument.

We also have several examples of a portal at location A taking us to location B. Location B being some kind of Tamriel Trading Hub? Preposterous! Now a portal to a miniature city, that just makes sense.

knaveofengland

the traders are all over the place , in fact need more places with more traders , as to help the biding process could have a set fee for large guilds medium and small guilds .

the system can be made more user friendly , also the more ideas players put the more eso will read and think i like that .

IV_Deity

I think we really need one thing, and that's an option to search for what we are trying to find at a guild store. This will lessen the time it takes to buy/sell items. On console, it can become a real pain looking through 8 sheets of items to find what you need. Refining the search is just not enough.

Cpt_Teemo

IV_Deity wrote: »

I think we really need one thing, and that's an option to search for what we are trying to find at a guild store. This will lessen the time it takes to buy/sell items. On console, it can become a real pain looking through 8 sheets of items to find what you need. Refining the search is just not enough.

A proper filter more like it so no blank items / pages like AGS has

sylviermoone

knaveofengland wrote: »

the traders are all over the place , in fact need more places with more traders , as to help the biding process could have a set fee for large guilds medium and small guilds .

the system can be made more user friendly , also the more ideas players put the more eso will read and think i like that .

The fact is that fixed fees will not work as a gold sink in the same way that blind bids do.

I will AGAIN say thay 150 MILLION gold + is currently being sunk due to trader bids in the top 4 trading hubs on PC-NA. I seriously doubt whatever thought anyone has for a "fixed fee" system comes close to this number.

The current system plays an absolutely critical role in sinking gold from the game, which has kept the price of most goods relatively stable for close to 3 years.

There does need to be better search features incorporated into the UI, and I'm all about adding some sort of bulletin board or whatever where peiple can search through the goods available from an entire zone's worth of kiosks.

One can not expect that they will form a guild and immediately have the capital necessary to bid on the top tier locations. Yes, I say that as the GM of one of those "big" guilds, but it wasn't always. I, and many other, GM's worked our butts off to build our guilds to compete in those areas, and built or banks to withstand the bidding wars that come when you "take someone else's spot". Any guild can do this, but it does take time and effort. If this sort of effort isn't your thing, there are plenty of other locations to rent in the game. There are frequently unbid locations when the kiosks change ownership. This tells me that the issue isn't necessarily that there aren't enough kiosks, they just don't happen to be in the location people prefer. So, bid higher for the one you want, or bid somewhere else.

If the system is going to change, the loss of the gold sink is the key. We can not simply change the system with creating an equivalent gold sink. For all the whinging about the anniversary event "ruining the economy" on the forums, the one sure fire way to ruin it is to remove the gold sink of the blind kiosk bid and not replace it with something equivalent.

VyersReaver

Wonder when we'll get that sweet text search... I am tired of going through empty pages with an addon.

knaveofengland

sylviermoone

first and foremost i do think fixed fees can work very well , to say the wont like bidding i say yes it can , logicial to say if you have bids on the largest guilds say members of 450+ , and in prime locations then bids would probally be better .

but for medium guilds , it would work for a fixed fee in a medium place of say 400/750k with say 300 +members , would be a nice gold sink that eso dont have right now , main reason not enough trader locations .

and for smaller guilds the fixed fee could be 200k/500k with say 100+ members and in smaller areas .

so this in effect would give us .

more trader locations .

more gold sink .

all if not all then most guilds then can afford a trader .

less stress for the bidding process .



so you keep current system , more competition , more gold sink , more players can sell , more guilds can afford a trader , less stress , really no need to say more .

wish you all well