Factotum Polymorph
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DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER
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What do you guys think will be the price for this?
Set aside the imperfections of meat and bone, adopt the perfected form of a Factotum, and move with clockwork precision. This Polymorph will also override any currently equipped Personality. Alters the /idle, /sleep, /bow. /twiddle, /wave, /hammerwall, /hammerlow, and /dance emotes.
The Factotum Polymorph will be available for a limited time on all platforms from April 12 to April 16 at 3pm BST.
Cant wait for it!!!
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Danksta✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They're seriously putting this in the crown store?? Why couldn't they just put a new polymorph in the crown store? Just lazy...
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FakeFox✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭We got a actually great trial reward. Did you really think they would leave it like that?EU/PC (GER) - Healermain since 2014 - 50305 Achievement Points - Youtube (PvE Healing Guides, Builds & Gameplay)5 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Price I would say somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000 Crowns.
It's a more desired look (as it's very different) than others and the Crows one went for 2k well enough.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."1 -
DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER✭✭✭✭✭3000 crowns sounds good. finally no rip off in game for 5-8 million gold and even looks better than the vAS HM drop imo0
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Soul_Marrow✭✭✭DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »3000 crowns sounds good. finally no rip off in game for 5-8 million gold and even looks better than the vAS HM drop imo
3000 crowns is like 25ish bucks, dude. How does that sound good? or better than fake currency earned in the game?
Does not compute.15 -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »3000 crowns sounds good. finally no rip off in game for 5-8 million gold and even looks better than the vAS HM drop imo
Rip off? Considering only a small percentage of the player base can obtain it i say it's pretty fair.8 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Soul_Marrow wrote: »
3000 crowns is like 25ish bucks, dude. How does that sound good? or better than fake currency earned in the game?
Does not compute.
Compare the time it takes the average player to earn $25 spending money for crowns with the time it takes the average player to earn a couple million gold to buy the polymorph container or to run the trial themselves to earn it.
Oh, right, 1 million gold is right about the 90th percentile of player wealth on PC (I'd have to go searching for the dev comment about that some months ago to get the exact number, but it was a little less than 1 million of PC and less for consoles.)
As far as I know, we don't have stats on trial completion either, but I'd make a good guess that $25 is much more achievable and much quicker to obtain than a couple million gold or completing the trial.
Or, since you want computations, I can earn roughly 100k in a day so it'd take me...roughly 50 days to earn 5 million in game gold. I can earn $25 spending money in that time easily, but its a moot point since I don't intend to buy either one. I just like math questions.
Edited to add, since someone did ask for the source of the statistics, which I wasn't in a position to check at the time of posting and so I generally overestimated when possible. From August 2017, on this thread, https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4399012ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
Seeing as I was looking at this stuff just now anyways (total gold for an account with at least 1 level 50)...- XB1 - 90th percentile - 412k gold
- PS4 - 90th percentile - 459k gold
- PC - 90th percentile - 890k gold
It's not the top 1%, but it gives you an idea.Edited by VaranisArano on April 5, 2018 3:36AM5 -
DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I am not a player capable of earning the vAS one ingame.
If I were, I would be pretty upset by this, and would hope it cost a good 5k crowns or something ridiculous.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub1 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭it will be mine...
certain characters are just made for certain looks - my argonian mag warden wants this poly very badly...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
Soul_Marrow✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
Compare the time it takes the average player to earn $25 spending money for crowns with the time it takes the average player to earn a couple million gold to buy the polymorph container or to run the trial themselves to earn it.
Oh, right, 1 million gold is right about the 90th percentile of player wealth on PC (I'd have to go searching for the dev comment about that some months ago to get the exact number, but it was a little less than 1 million of PC and less for consoles.)
As far as I know, we don't have stats on trial completion either, but I'd make a good guess that $25 is much more achievable and much quicker to obtain than a couple million gold or completing the trial.
Or, since you want computations, I can earn roughly 100k in a day so it'd take me...roughly 50 days to earn 5 million in game gold. I can earn $25 spending money in that time easily, but its a moot point since I don't intend to buy either one. I just like math questions.
You are under-earning. Up to 5 guild slots, 30 item slots a piece, gold from quests, theieve's guild line with personal fence, and so on. The list goes on and on. My main point was that I play the game for fun, but I go to work to earn money. I'd rather spend fake money on fake items and my real money on real items...especially considering that I can not spend said fake money on items outside of the game. an hour or 2 of work is not equal to a few hours of fun with my buddies.4 -
Soul_Marrow✭✭✭My guess is that it will cost 5000 Crowns. I hope my guess is wrong.
If they charge 40+ dollars for a polymorph, they are nuts and pushing it too far. If someone PAYS 40+ dollars for a polymorph, they are nuts and justifying atrocious market trends. Please do not give in to that temptation because the next one will cost 50, then 60, etc and it WILL NOT STOP until they find the tipping point.
Edited by Soul_Marrow on April 4, 2018 7:21PM2 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's a detailed poly plus personality, so I'm thinking Crows as the baseline (2,000), plus an additional 1,000 for the personalty for 3,000 total.
It would have been fun to not have the personality override so you could have zombie robot or jester robot or, most importantly, duchess robot. So even if I get this one I would be interested in an 'old rusty and malfunctioning' variant that I could program myself.signing off0 -
Moloch1514✭✭✭✭✭
✭When Crown gifting is a thing after Summerset, I wonder how much in-game gold something like this will be worth? Will this be a new "profession" to earn gold in game for Crown store whales? Takes gold sellers out of the market lolEdited by Moloch1514 on April 4, 2018 7:27PMPC-NA0 -
Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
Compare the time it takes the average player to earn $25 spending money for crowns with the time it takes the average player to earn a couple million gold to buy the polymorph container or to run the trial themselves to earn it.
Oh, right, 1 million gold is right about the 90th percentile of player wealth on PC (I'd have to go searching for the dev comment about that some months ago to get the exact number, but it was a little less than 1 million of PC and less for consoles.)
As far as I know, we don't have stats on trial completion either, but I'd make a good guess that $25 is much more achievable and much quicker to obtain than a couple million gold or completing the trial.
Or, since you want computations, I can earn roughly 100k in a day so it'd take me...roughly 50 days to earn 5 million in game gold. I can earn $25 spending money in that time easily, but its a moot point since I don't intend to buy either one. I just like math questions.
But what if it drops and no gold involved at all? Someone who was actually just doing the trial because they enjoyed doing the trial. God Forbid those who don't class playing the game as work.Edited by Prof_Bawbag on April 4, 2018 7:30PM2 -
VerboseQuips✭✭✭✭✭It doens't seem to be the same as the Clockwork Curator one. My guess is that only collectors are willing to pay millions for the current polymorph, and collectors will want both polymorphs anyways. Thus the market will remain more or less unchanged or only marginally affected, in my opinion.My characters:SpoilerMain and crafter: A Breton magicka templar named Erwann Sorril
Alt 1: A Bosmer sorcerer named Tuuneleg
Alt 2: An Imperial dragonknight named Gaius Tullius Hastifer
Alt 3: An Argonian vampire/nightblade named Observe-le-Xanmeer
Alt 4: A Nord werewolf/dragonknight named Sigurd Hurlevent
Alt 5: A Breton sorcerer named Gilian Sorril (he's Erwann's younger brother)
Alt 6: A Khajiit nightblade named Jolan-dar
Alt 7: A Nord warden named Sigurmar Hurlevent (he's Sigurd's younger brother)
Alt 8: An Altmer templar named Oioriel
Alt 9: An Argonian stamina Warden named Danse-avec-les-Rainettes
Alt 10: A Redguard templar named Neemokh af-Corelanya
Alt 11: A Nord stamina sorcerer named Olga Écoute-Vent
Alt 12: A Breton magicka Warden named Ian Sorril
Alt 13: A Dunmer magicka necromancer named Ilmoran Dren
Alt 14: An Orc stamina necromancer named Norgol gro-Borziel
Alt 15: A Nord magicka necromancer named Thorgen Givresang
Alt 16: An Imperial magicka dragonknight named Publius Valeirus Hastifer (Just call him "Valerio" - he's Gaius younger troublemaker of a brother)
Main in NA (For collaborative events): A Breton magicka nightblade named Titouan Sorril (long-lost brother of Erwann and Gilian)1 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Soul_Marrow wrote: »
You are under-earning. Up to 5 guild slots, 30 item slots a piece, gold from quests, theieve's guild line with personal fence, and so on. The list goes on and on. My main point was that I play the game for fun, but I go to work to earn money. I'd rather spend fake money on fake items and my real money on real items...especially considering that I can not spend said fake money on items outside of the game. an hour or 2 of work is not equal to a few hours of fun with my buddies.
Meh. I...actually don't care that I'm "underearning." I have 3 trading guild, 1 PVP guild, and one friends guild, so I have a satisfying social life in the game, plus I don't spend a ton of time farming. When I do spend time farming, I make about 100k a day. Which, I do find farming fun, but its not what I do all the time. I'm earning at a rate that is comfortable and fun for me - that's a success in my book.
That being said, if I chose to farm the way I want to farm and still have fun playing the game, it would take me about 50 days or so to make the 5 million gold. That's assuming I wasn't willing to spend any of the 4 million or so that I already have. Again, that's quite a lot compared to the average player, 90% of whom have less than 1 million gold.
Ultimately, you can spend your money on whatever you like just like I can spend my money how I like. My point was that ZOS made this decision rightly assuming that $25 spending cash is much more accessible to the average play than the trial completion or buying it with in-game gold.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »
But what if it drops and no gold involved at all? Someone who was actually just doing the trial because they enjoyed doing the trial. God Forbid those who don't class playing the game as work.
You missed part of my point. What is more accessible to the average player: $25 spending cash, 5 million gold (the 90th percentile of players on PC have a little less than 1 million gold) or the ability to complete the trial to get the drop?
ZOS is selling this non-identical polymorph under the idea that $25 spending cash is the most accessible to the average player who wants to look like a factotum.0 -
Sky_WK✭✭✭✭Soul_Marrow wrote: »
3000 crowns is like 25ish bucks, dude. How does that sound good? or better than fake currency earned in the game?
Does not compute.
He's comparing it to the price of what the polymorph boxes are selling for, so "easier" might be a more accurate word.i do not read replies. still playing stamdk for some reason.0 -
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✭They're seriously putting this in the crown store?? Why couldn't they just put a new polymorph in the crown store? Just lazy...
Lol they made it sliver... what the original one should have been since you get a "silver" skin from doing hm vas. Odd ( vas skin is my fav btw
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Vrienda✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've been waiting for this for so long! The trial one might as well have not been added, such a waste of a great polymorph.
I'm glad that they're making this one obtainable. I enjoyed my time messing around with this on the PTS, I might re-run Clockwork City once I get it.
I reckon it'll be 4k-5k crowns.Edited by Vrienda on April 5, 2018 12:04AMDesperate for Roleplaying servers to bring open world non-organised RP to Elder Scrolls Online. Please ZOS.0 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭just make a valuable tradeable drop from a trial almost completely worthless by adding in a crown store variant that looks better, great thinking zos, you obviously hate the end game raiders. always appealing to casuals
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MaxwellC✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You know this is the opposite of what should be happening.
Rare polymorphs should drop in PvE/PvP content that players can sell among-st themselves. You then can have some crown polymorphs with some minor tweaks given out in event like updates e.g the current jester event.
I don't understand how knee capping a rare polymorphs' value, available to those who best the vet aslyum trial is remotely a good thing.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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Soul_Marrow✭✭✭
He's comparing it to the price of what the polymorph boxes are selling for, so "easier" might be a more accurate word.
I'll absolutely concede to this. I won't concede to his last post. I absolutely hate the argument he made above as it is a cop out argument, however, you are onto something with it being "easier" for certain.Edited by Soul_Marrow on April 5, 2018 2:34PM0 -
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✭I would be extremely salty if i just bought that for 10m goldEdited by Kalante on April 5, 2018 4:51AM2 -
Soul_Marrow✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
Meh. I...actually don't care that I'm "underearning." I have 3 trading guild, 1 PVP guild, and one friends guild, so I have a satisfying social life in the game, plus I don't spend a ton of time farming. When I do spend time farming, I make about 100k a day. Which, I do find farming fun, but its not what I do all the time. I'm earning at a rate that is comfortable and fun for me - that's a success in my book.
That being said, if I chose to farm the way I want to farm and still have fun playing the game, it would take me about 50 days or so to make the 5 million gold. That's assuming I wasn't willing to spend any of the 4 million or so that I already have. Again, that's quite a lot compared to the average player, 90% of whom have less than 1 million gold.
Ultimately, you can spend your money on whatever you like just like I can spend my money how I like. My point was that ZOS made this decision rightly assuming that $25 spending cash is much more accessible to the average play than the trial completion or buying it with in-game gold.
I thnk we need to keep assumed statistics out of this because these are assumptions and nothing more. Telling you that you are underearning wasn't an insult in any form and your perception of my comment was skewed. My point was that it is so incredibly easy to make gold in this game that you don't HAVE to farm. You CAN continue playing the way you play and still do it, but the point was missed entirely. If you think it would take 50 days to earn the gold then you are underearning, not because you are farming wrong, but because you don't know how to earn quickly and easily in this game yet. I absolutely HATE the "spend your money how you wish" argument. Leave that the hell out because it has no point in the conversation. Light your money on fire for all I care, it's your wasted time, not mine...but it does affect the rest of us because then a company can justify a 25 dollar price tag on a fake outfit for fake people.
The statement about spending money how you like loses any discussion because it derails it. Please stay on topic. The main point I was making is that you could earn much more with very little effort when you know how and it doesn't change your farming habits or anything else...so once again, I prefer to spend real money on real things and digital fake currency on digital fake things since I can not spend digital fake money on real things...this money was created for the SOLE purpose of buying these fake digital items and literally for no other reason unless you plan to collect computer generated drawings of gold coins on a server. I could have 3 billion real dollars in a bank vault right now and I would not spend 25 dollars on a costume because the very simple economics of it all do not make logical sense. Every time you do spend 25 dollars on something as asinine as an outfit, it tells a business that a consumer will happily spend that amount and so said business will eventually test 30 dollars out as a price tag, then 35, and so on. That continues until they hit a wall and see the sales trend downward. Boom, they have found a price point. 25 dollars isn't a lot of money, but for a single costume on a game that most players probably only paid 20 or 25 dollars to acquire in the first place (unless they bought at launch), it's a lot...AND this is a pallet swap.
I'm going to have to remain firm on my position that 25 dollars for a pallet swapped pixel costume does not sound good to me when I can obtain it via questing or spending the in-game currency (the one that was created solely to buy items in this game) on it. You are free to spend your hard-earned money on it if you'd like, but I wish you would follow the reasoning and opt out. I want to end with telling you that I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to bring some perspective to this. Imagine walking into Walmart and walking past shirts that cost 10 dollars, Halloween costumes that cost 19.99, making your way to the electronics section and seeing "vanilla" ESO for 20 dollars on the shelf and beside it sits a code to buy an in-game costume for 25 dollars. So 20 dollars for the ENTIRE BASE GAME and 25 dollars for a SINGLE COSTUME. This type of sideways economics are not good for the consumer, they are good for the company. Do you remember when Bethesda released horse armor in the digital store for Morrowind? The cost was 2 dollars worth of "Xbox Points" at the time (or other console/pc equivalent) and people had a fit about it because they felt betrayed by the company they loved and supported for selling their supporters something that could have and should have probably been in the game already. Several gamers and media outlets warned of the incoming micro-transaction trends if consumers decided to buy the armor, etc. Now look at where we are just a short time later.
These micro-transactions are normalizing the mindset of paying 20 to 60 for a game and then spending 120 on a house for that game, or 50 dollars for a horse. It's all a marketing trick and we as a collective community of game lovers are the ones who end up losing out in the long run. A CEO gets to sit around counting his REAL money in his REAL mansion that he bought with the money you spent on your fake mansion and that is both comical and disturbing to me. We need to keep things in perspective before this trend gets worse and worse. PLEASE.
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DoctorESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »
What do you guys think will be the price for this?
Set aside the imperfections of meat and bone, adopt the perfected form of a Factotum, and move with clockwork precision. This Polymorph will also override any currently equipped Personality. Alters the /idle, /sleep, /bow. /twiddle, /wave, /hammerwall, /hammerlow, and /dance emotes.
The Factotum Polymorph will be available for a limited time on all platforms from April 12 to April 16 at 3pm BST.
Cant wait for it!!!
2,500 or 3,000 crowns.0 -
DoctorESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »
What do you guys think will be the price for this?
Set aside the imperfections of meat and bone, adopt the perfected form of a Factotum, and move with clockwork precision. This Polymorph will also override any currently equipped Personality. Alters the /idle, /sleep, /bow. /twiddle, /wave, /hammerwall, /hammerlow, and /dance emotes.
The Factotum Polymorph will be available for a limited time on all platforms from April 12 to April 16 at 3pm BST.
Cant wait for it!!!
2,500 or 3,000 crowns.0 -
DoctorESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Soul_Marrow wrote: »
I thnk we need to keep assumed statistics out of this because these are your assumptions and nothing more. Telling you that you are underearning wasn't an insult in any form and your perception of my comment was skewed. My point was that it is so incredibly easy to make gold in this game that you don't HAVE to farm. You CAN continue playing the way you play and still do it, but the point was missed entirely. If you think it would take 50 days to earn the gold then you are underearning, not because you are farming wrong, but because you don't know how to earn quickly and easily in this game yet. I absolutely HATE the "spend your money how you wish" argument. Leave that the hell out because it has no point in the conversation. Light your money on fire for all I care, it's your wasted time, not mine...but it does affect the rest of us because then a company can justify a 25 dollar price tag on a fake outfit for fake people.
Hey, I'm real.Soul_Marrow wrote: »A CEO gets to sit around counting his REAL money in his REAL mansion that he bought with the money you spent on your fake mansion and that is both comical and disturbing to me. We need to keep things in perspective. PLEASE.
CEOs are too busy making money to sit around at home counting their money. Unless you're talking about fake CEOs.0
