Fact proving EP is a better alliance than DC/AD.

VaranisArano

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

Having more kills doesn't mean you're better. You can sit on the bridge all day and rack up the kills while having done nothing to improve the map (taking keeps and resources).

While that's true that bridgefarming and milegate farming doesnt make you good, if you are implying that EP's kills come from bridge and milegate farming, what does that say about the unsuccessful farm victims?

I'm not implying that, I'm just saying that more kills doesn't necessarily make you better.

I agree that number of kills doesn't equal skill, take a look at crutchgore group.

Iskras

ok...

Priyasekarssk

Forget everything.

Look at these
Who are these people ? I suspect its from AD.
Highest unpaid bounty: 248,655,731 gold
Highest paid bounty: 362,324 gold

Rohamad_Ali

They also win first prize for Ugliest races . Ugly people are more prone to violence and knock knock jokes .

VaranisArano

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Forget everything.

Look at these
Who are these people ? I suspect its from AD.
Highest unpaid bounty: 248,655,731 gold
Highest paid bounty: 362,324 gold

Shadowmaster

kylewwefan wrote: »

Aye, the pact wins many battles, but continues to lose the war. FTC

We just won vivec last cycle? LOL do you work for CNN?

fastolfv_ESO

when is the last time zenimax did math correctly? They cant even program kill enemy players to count in proper order from 1-20 i assume this info is completely wrong and its actually ep has died the most

Valamist

Fact AD is the best Alliance - It has Razum-dar.

Done.

Vilestride

Valamist wrote: »

Fact AD is the best Alliance - It has Razum-dar.

Done.

Wasn't he a DC ganker back in the wabajaack days?

Goshua

I will agree EP has some of the strongest players and large potent pugs.

They are also a bunch of , the rain on the paraders.
That's fine, it;s why we love to hate you

I have had the displeasure defending with but a handful of wary scrubs while Methusomefella rolled the map red everyday and every scroll. Nothing personal about him specifically or EP in genera for that matter, collectively...
Currently we have the pug magnet meta power team who are amazing no denying it.
Though If you watch one video you've seen them all (that's a hint. no naming and acclaiming).
watching that one everyday for potentially 30 days... you get an idea of my general attitude to game play like that.

Thank the stars it takes a hive of other EP to do the same damage yet some of them die.
If AD's hive has more worker bees and less Queens the cry for a faction stack on the east side goes out
..the bulk of which, 75% of the time, gets melted on the bridge by some bizzare mix of DC and EP BG hero's.

Fun and games.

Master_Kas

Goshua wrote: »

I will agree EP has some of the strongest players and large potent pugs.

They are also a bunch of , the rain on the paraders.
That's fine, it;s why we love to hate you

I have had the displeasure defending with but a handful of wary scrubs while Methusomefella rolled the map red everyday and every scroll. Nothing personal about him specifically or EP in genera for that matter, collectively...
Currently we have the pug magnet meta power team who are amazing no denying it.
Though If you watch one video you've seen them all (that's a hint. no naming and acclaiming).
watching that one everyday for potentially 30 days... you get an idea of my general attitude to game play like that.

Thank the stars it takes a hive of other EP to do the same damage yet some of them die.
If AD's hive has more worker bees and less Queens the cry for a faction stack on the east side goes out
..the bulk of which, 75% of the time, gets melted on the bridge by some bizzare mix of DC and EP BG hero's.

Fun and games.

Sounds like vivec EU

frozywozy

If we take into account the last 4years, EP has been the most successful and dominant for sure. For the past 4months? Definitely the worst and very far behind. EP has been getting carried by only a handful for a long time.

Most EP players, even experienced and long time ones don't want to do any effort to organize and work the map. They log in to follow the zerg on the transit line. They leave the few organized guilds left do everything by themselves.

Priyasekarssk

VaranisArano wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Forget everything.

Look at these
Who are these people ? I suspect its from AD.
Highest unpaid bounty: 248,655,731 gold
Highest paid bounty: 362,324 gold

I also think same thing, it must some noob khajit AD went on a killing spree forgetting its not a PVP area .

The_Brosteen

I want to know who the poor sap is who accrued a 250 mil bounty and had to wait it out......

Anazasi

with 36% of the PVP population EP should have the most kills. Lol Statistics are used to prove points of views. They never tell the real story of anything. By chance, would this also prove that because EP has the higher population there should be a higher number of CE users? If you wanted to apply percentages and probabilities on quantified algorithms to prove something based on nothing. In other words "fluff"

Vilestride

Anazasi wrote: »

with 36% of the PVP population EP should have the most kills. Lol Statistics are used to prove points of views. They never tell the real story of anything. By chance, would this also prove that because EP has the higher population there should be a higher number of CE users? If you wanted to apply percentages and probabilities on quantified algorithms to prove something based on nothing. In other words "fluff"

It's 36% of the total characters made I believe? So not necessarily reflective of the PvP population. Granted I think it's a safe assumption to correlate the 2 but none the less, there is a distinction there.

Soul_Demon

Vilestride wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

with 36% of the PVP population EP should have the most kills. Lol Statistics are used to prove points of views. They never tell the real story of anything. By chance, would this also prove that because EP has the higher population there should be a higher number of CE users? If you wanted to apply percentages and probabilities on quantified algorithms to prove something based on nothing. In other words "fluff"

It's 36% of the total characters made I believe? So not necessarily reflective of the PvP population. Granted I think it's a safe assumption to correlate the 2 but none the less, there is a distinction there.

Given that a perfect balance would be 33.33% to give all factions a perfectly even representation 36% would be within normal error norms....IF it were cyro population. But, its chars created- not population. Not really sure why they threw that in there unless it was to see if we pay attention or to troll us....who knows. The kills are a different story since they are specifically kills in cyro, but as others point out they really don't represent anything other than what EP already knew. No matter what else is happening on the map- no matter what. AD will be knocking on BRK and DC will be at Chal front door at the same time regardless of any other play happening.....ever.

VaranisArano

Soul_Demon wrote: »

Vilestride wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

with 36% of the PVP population EP should have the most kills. Lol Statistics are used to prove points of views. They never tell the real story of anything. By chance, would this also prove that because EP has the higher population there should be a higher number of CE users? If you wanted to apply percentages and probabilities on quantified algorithms to prove something based on nothing. In other words "fluff"

It's 36% of the total characters made I believe? So not necessarily reflective of the PvP population. Granted I think it's a safe assumption to correlate the 2 but none the less, there is a distinction there.

Given that a perfect balance would be 33.33% to give all factions a perfectly even representation 36% would be within normal error norms....IF it were cyro population. But, its chars created- not population. Not really sure why they threw that in there unless it was to see if we pay attention or to troll us....who knows. The kills are a different story since they are specifically kills in cyro, but as others point out they really don't represent anything other than what EP already knew. No matter what else is happening on the map- no matter what. AD will be knocking on BRK and DC will be at Chal front door at the same time regardless of any other play happening.....ever.

That's an excellent point. As an EP character I can guarantee that there will be constant fighting in the Chalman-Bleakers-Aleswell corridor and the BRK-Sej-Alessia corridor. If we aren't fighting there, its because we've been pushed to the tri-keeps.

Vilestride

I would love to see a hotspot chart of the map of cyrodil with a filter over it for AP distributed by location.

I'd wager the chalman super structure spits out more AP than anywhere else

NyassaV

Most kills because they run everyone over and also have the most numbers

Maura_Neysa

Shadowmaster wrote: »

Most PvP Kills by Alliance: Ebonheart Pact (122,490,253 kills)

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26349

More people more kills. Yet somehow EP isn't doing any better in the War. Guess that speaks volumes..

Shadowmaster

frozywozy wrote: »

For the past 4months? Definitely the worst and very far behind.

Am I playing a different game? We just won Vivec NA (The biggest campaign), last time, and I was told we also won it the time before.

Am I losing my mind? Why are you saying EP is the worst and far behind?

frozywozy

Shadowmaster wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

For the past 4months? Definitely the worst and very far behind.

Am I playing a different game? We just won Vivec NA (The biggest campaign), last time, and I was told we also won it the time before.

Am I losing my mind? Why are you saying EP is the worst and far behind?

Read the rest of my post.

VaranisArano

Shadowmaster wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

For the past 4months? Definitely the worst and very far behind.

Am I playing a different game? We just won Vivec NA (The biggest campaign), last time, and I was told we also won it the time before.

Am I losing my mind? Why are you saying EP is the worst and far behind?

We won the last 30 day campaign on PC/NA Vivec, beating out AD's queue issue early lead. The campaigns before that were won by DC, about 4-6 of them in a row (Sorry, they all blend to together so I really dont recall the exact number) because EP won 6 to 8 in a row when Vivec started.

AD just now got a better Oceanic crew, about time, since they've been losing Vivec campaigns miserably since that server started.

PenguinInACan

It's a pretty silly metric to try and compare anything to. 4 years of "PvP" doesn't just mean Cyro in a game that introduced dueling/battlegrounds unless they specifically say "4 years of Cyro". Does the number include all of the "PvP" deaths from theorycrafting duels? BG's have gone through many hot periods throwing up some pretty decent popularity, especially with Morrowind release and all of the new wardens that came with it.

It's like someone needed extra fluff for a pretty lackluster quarterly and thought "hey, we can talk about how much toilet paper we used and who used it the most."

antihero727

There was PvP before Vivec and AD was not the underdog. Most of the better guilds died out around 1.5 years ago on all sides. What we are left with is nothing to get into a pissey match over. Yes EP has 36% of the toons. Another stat is that at least 60% of the PvP population quit because of the biggest killer in Cyrodiil, lag and disconnects.

Machete

I'd say it's hard to argue with facts, but EP has the numbers to zerg multiple objectives. The only compliment I can give EP is that it has the most organized guilds of any alliance. Where that skill level is varies dramatically.

Arandear

I wanna know who didn't pay that "Highest unpaid bounty"!

kyle.wilson

Want proof of ZOS inability to spot exploits.
Highest bounty 248million.
It most likely occurred right after the justice patch came out. When people were exploiting npc rezes to gain cp really fast. Some was done through botting, others keybinding. But still an exploit.

Priyasekarssk

Arandear wrote: »

I wanna know who didn't pay that "Highest unpaid bounty"!

Some khajit NB doing his dark brotherhood quests and get caught in all of his kills. So, khajit became unstable and goes on a killing spree.