Deadly Cloak getting nerfed - future of stamDPS raid viability?

Guarlet

Just saw in Woeler's video that the damage reduction on Deadly Cloak will be getting nerfed. I can understanding the reasonings behind the change, but let's be real, Deadly Cloak is one of the main reasons stamina DPS are able to stay alive in raids. I pray that it will not be overnerfed -- as someone who mains a stamsorc and is trying to get geared for serious endgame, I don't want to go back to the days when stamDPS were the redheaded stepchildren of raids due to not being able to survive.

Kanar

Good they should nerf it and put what they removed into a passive in medium armor. So if they nerf it from 25 to 15 then they should put a passive in medium armor that does 10.

Edit: also the need for deadly cloak is much over hyped. There's really only a few fights where it is required.

Dymence

The damage is getting nerfed, not the damage reduction.

Guarlet

Dymence wrote: »

The damage is getting nerfed, not the damage reduction.

I just listened to that part in the video again, and he specifically says "reduction of damage." So, unless that changes between now and the release of Summerset, yes that is targeted to be nerfed.

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

Damage reduction wont be changed.

Guarlet

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https://youtu.be/NKhBwAHusIc?t=4m8s

Vaoh

I see it working similarly to shields on Magicka builds in that it'll be a more situational cast. Stam DPS will cast it on occasions when AoE damage is high.

In PvP the speed morph is pretty much always preferred. In PvE, the damage is still there but its mainly available for the 25% damage mitigation rather than max dps. That's probably the vision for this skill - sounds good to me.

jeskah

Guarlet wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

The damage is getting nerfed, not the damage reduction.

I just listened to that part in the video again, and he specifically says "reduction of damage." So, unless that changes between now and the release of Summerset, yes that is targeted to be nerfed.

Yep, reducing the damage of the skill.

(TTBT, it was somewhat overperforming for a defensive ability.)

Koolio

Vaoh wrote: »

I see it working similarly to shields on Magicka builds in that it'll be a more situational cast. Stam DPS will cast it on occasions when AoE damage is high.

In PvP the speed morph is pretty much always preferred. In PvE, the damage is still there but its mainly available for the 25% damage mitigation rather than max dps. That's probably the vision for this skill - sounds good to me.

If it wasn’t before it will definitely be now.

PlagueSD

Guarlet wrote: »

Just saw in Woeler's video that the damage reduction on Deadly Cloak will be getting nerfed. I can understanding the reasonings behind the change, but let's be real, Deadly Cloak is one of the main reasons BAD stamina DPS are able to stay alive in raids. I pray that it will not be overnerfed -- as someone who mains a stamsorc and is trying to get geared for serious endgame, I don't want to go back to the days when stamDPS were the redheaded stepchildren of raids due to not being able to survive.

Fixed that for you. If you need deadly cloak to stay alive in raids, you're doing something wrong...Probably standing in red, or in front of the boss and getting cleaved.

I have no issues staying alive on my stamblade in raids without it. I don't even bother slotting it.

Guarlet

jeskah wrote: »

Guarlet wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

The damage is getting nerfed, not the damage reduction.

I just listened to that part in the video again, and he specifically says "reduction of damage." So, unless that changes between now and the release of Summerset, yes that is targeted to be nerfed.

Yep, reducing the damage of the skill.

(TTBT, it was somewhat overperforming for a defensive ability.)

Hmm, I guess that could be interpreted as either "reduction of incoming damage" or "reduction of damage dealt." Is there a source that confirms which one it is for sure?

As said in the first post, I can understand the reasons for a nerf, I just am worried about stamDPS not having enough damage mitigation in raids if it is hit too hard with the nerfhammer.

Gilliamtherogue

Can confirm as someone who playtested at the event, that Blade Cloak only got a 40% damage reduction, the AoE damage mitigation is still 25%.

Guarlet

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

Can confirm as someone who playtested at the event, that Blade Cloak only got a 40% damage reduction, the AoE damage mitigation is still 25%.

Many thanks Gilliam