A pvp switch in pve zones

bloodthirstyvampire

Yes I know dueling is there, and cyrodill exists as well as battlegrounds, but it just Wouldn't add the element of surprise that a pvp switch would have, if you played dcuniverse online you'll know what I'm talking about, you can just active a pvp flag that allows you to attack other players that have there pvp flags switched on.

Most players would say no I guess, I'm just stating my opinion on the idea as it is optional,

Ectheliontnacil

Would be cool if I could finally kill the guy who's stealing my resource nodes!

Banana

Id rather it was the other way round.

Bhaal5

So turn off the "dont kill "friendly' " in over land tamerial (town could be safe spots)
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I like it

Gythral

How about a turn off PvP in the PvP Zone (and the General section of the forum)

Beardimus

I think it would be ace. But keep Alliance no friendly fire on

Fed up of seeing DC and AD roaming across EP territory since OneTamriel.

Game really needs this to help the lore. And as a switch zero reason why PvE care bears wouldn't want it, i mean.they already have PvE in PvP zones

GeorgeBlack

Yes.
However you forget the most important thing inforums.
People will say no and they will support their possition with superficial excuses.
And even though ppl without PvP flag will not be affected, the majority of them will still say no.

Do you know why? Because smthg that they wanted didnt happen.
So they will say no.

phaneub17_ESO

Why stop there, get into a random group for dungeons and PvP the opposing faction, you're AD but your healer is EP, DEATH TO THE HEALER!! Wait for another 30 minutes, the new Healer is DC and he's dead... wait another hour. This is fun!

bloodthirstyvampire

Bhaal5 wrote: »

So turn off the "dont kill "friendly' " in over land tamerial (town could be safe spots)
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I like it

That feeling of slight paranoia as you get that node or kill that boss I love it plus the safezone thing would work great plus its optional you don't have to do it

themaddaedra

No, pvp damaged pve more than enough while being a seperate map already. Keep your nose out of piece and prosperity

Slick_007

Beardimus wrote: »

Game really needs this to help the lore. And as a switch zero reason why PvE care bears wouldn't want it, i mean.they already have PvE in PvP zones

and you can already pvp in pve zones. its called dueling. i mean thats as good as you saying there are npc's to kill in pvp zones right? except those quests are designed for you to do something around players who can kill you.

mixing pvp and pve in a pve zone would be painful for pvp players. im sure they'll get annoyed finding players they cant kill everywhere. it will simply lead to more whinging. and theres not enough population to split the server.

bloodthirstyvampire

themaddaedra wrote: »

No, pvp damaged pve more than enough while being a seperate map already. Keep your nose out of piece and prosperity

That exists in eso?

themaddaedra

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

themaddaedra wrote: »

No, pvp damaged pve more than enough while being a seperate map already. Keep your nose out of piece and prosperity

That exists in eso?

Obviously

jedtb16_ESO

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Yes.
However you forget the most important thing inforums.
People will say no and they will support their possition with superficial excuses.
And even though ppl without PvP flag will not be affected, the majority of them will still say no.

Do you know why? Because smthg that they wanted didnt happen.
So they will say no.

well spotted captain obvious.

there are pvp zones and duels and battlegrounds.....

FloppyTouch

Would love this myself

bloodthirstyvampire

If this is unacceptable then what about a pvp switch for homes, guilds could play hide and kill 1 player kills everybody they Can't fight back last to survive wins thee jackpot

Bhaal5

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

So turn off the "dont kill "friendly' " in over land tamerial (town could be safe spots)
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.
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I like it

That feeling of slight paranoia as you get that node or kill that boss I love it plus the safezone thing would work great plus its optional you don't have to do it

Situational awareness . Everywhere

Ch4mpTW

No thanks. The game was introduced to more lag (as if that was needed) when dueling in PvE zones was implemented. To have even more PvP going on in PvE zones would probably cause performance to decrease even further. In my opinion, it was a huge mistake on ZOS’ behalf to enable dueling outside of PvP environments and or player homes. The game truly didn’t need that added on stress with it already having been so unstable as is. Dueling just magnified the issue(s).

Poor performance aside, I don’t think the game needs anymore reasons to have PvP-driven players to disrespect and flame each other in chat. It becomes tiring to see people insult each other over something like PvP day in and day out. Especially when there are usually more pressing matters to be tended to.

AzraelKrieg

This topic again? Been a while since one has popped up I don't have a stick prepared.

Bhaal5

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

No thanks. The game was introduced to more lag (as if that was needed) when dueling in PvE zones was implemented. To have even more PvP going on in PvE zones would probably cause performance to decrease even further.

Poor performance aside, I don’t think the game needs anymore reasons to have PvP-driven players to disrespect and flame each other in chat. It becomes tiring to see people insult each other over something like PvP day in and day out. Especially when there are usually more pressing matters to be tended to.

And the pve population are a bunch of angels.....lmao yeah right, ive been to trollorn and seen the "trials" based guilds there

DaveMoeDee

If it would not degrade server performance (it will) and if it would result in additional revenue beyond the costs to develop and maintain (it won't), I would be fine with it. I have zero interest in the feature itself.

Ch4mpTW

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

No thanks. The game was introduced to more lag (as if that was needed) when dueling in PvE zones was implemented. To have even more PvP going on in PvE zones would probably cause performance to decrease even further.

Poor performance aside, I don’t think the game needs anymore reasons to have PvP-driven players to disrespect and flame each other in chat. It becomes tiring to see people insult each other over something like PvP day in and day out. Especially when there are usually more pressing matters to be tended to.

And the pve population are a bunch of angels.....lmao yeah right, ive been to trollorn and seen the "trials" based guilds there

I can only speak from experiences in this circumstance. And I can honestly say that I’ve never seen people bicker in zone chat over builds, and or ranks like I do when the topic at hand is something PvP-oriented. I can not tell you how many times I’ve entered into Elden Root, and been greeted by people calling each other various inappropriate names and making explicit comments about each other. Why? Because so and so is using this “cheese”, and the person who lost feels cheated. Or how this person feels superior to that person, for beating them in a duel. So now, they feel the need to degrade their opponent with derogatory comments in zone chat. I can’t say that I’ve ever observed any of those things when the topic at hand was of something PvE-based.

MrWesleyPipes

No ty

Voxicity

I would love this so much. Those who argue against it, I don't really understand since it would be an opt in system. As in, you can literally never partake in it in your life if you don't want. But people like to ruin it for others just cause they hate PvP and have never even tried it

WillhelmBlack

Would love to PvP somewhere other than Cyrodiil.

White wabbit

Been asked many a time if people bothered to look though the threads , I can't see it happening as ZOS won't want to kill off there cash cow (pve) as I think this would

Integral1900

Considering that us pve exclusive Care Bears make up 90% of the player base and therefore 90% of the money that ZOS gets I can calmly and considerately say...

NO WAY THIS SIDE OF HELL!!!!!!!

Voxicity

Integral1900 wrote: »

Considering that us pve exclusive Care Bears make up 90% of the player base and therefore 90% of the money that ZOS gets I can calmly and considerately say...

NO WAY THIS SIDE OF HELL!!!!!!!

May I ask how an opt in PvP system would effect a PvE player? Is it that PvE players don't want to see people fighting? Or what? I can't get my head around it

MarrazzMist

So me and my team could charge ultis, gank other person/group, and then switch to ”no-pvp”, and be like: sorry, you can’t touch us

There’s a lot more to it, than simple ”ZOS doesn’t want this”. It’s pain to make, too many ways to abuse it.

WillhelmBlack

Voxicity wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

Considering that us pve exclusive Care Bears make up 90% of the player base and therefore 90% of the money that ZOS gets I can calmly and considerately say...

NO WAY THIS SIDE OF HELL!!!!!!!

May I ask how an opt in PvP system would effect a PvE player? Is it that PvE players don't want to see people fighting? Or what? I can't get my head around it

Pretty much

starkerealm

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Yes I know dueling is there, and cyrodill exists as well as battlegrounds, but it just Wouldn't add the element of surprise that a pvp switch would have, if you played dcuniverse online you'll know what I'm talking about, you can just active a pvp flag that allows you to attack other players that have there pvp flags switched on.

Most players would say no I guess, I'm just stating my opinion on the idea as it is optional,

DCUO's base mission structure was designed around faction PvP. You'd have a quest zone and if you were a hero, you'd go in and do one set of objectives, i you were a villain, you'd do another. Depending on the specific space, this would sometimes put you in direct conflict for quest resources, or it would require you to move across the same space to get to your goal. The game was built from day one to support two faction PvP. ESO's quests really aren't. It'd be possible, probably, but it would be a lot of work.