Necromancer Criticism Corner. (Megathread)

stimpy986b14_ESO

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

Why not offer undead-style skins for Sorcerer/Warden pets? No differences in functionality, just cosmetics.

I'm currently modeling Orc MagBlade alt as a Lich, and it's pretty stylistically close.

I'm using 2-piece Nerien'eth's, 5-piece Bahraha's Curse (AoE bar), and 5-piece Caluurion's Legacy (single-target bar).

My AoE bar is Volcanic Rune, Blockade of Frost, Twisting Path, Sap Essence, and Consuming Trap (Ultimate is Bolstering Darkness).

My single-target bar is Weakness to Elements, Merciless Resolve, Dark Shades, Swallow Soul, and Spiked Bone Shield (Ultimate is Soul Assault).

This build feels VERY much like a necromancer should, given how your abilities work on a target. You really do feel like you're draining their life force. And visually, it really does remind you of the lich mobs/bosses throughout the game. In all honesty, the only thing that's missing is some sort of undead summoning visual.

Using my build as an example, it would be nice to have a "skin" that would make the visual effect of Bolstering Darkness look like the skeletal hand AoE snare thingy some of the mobs in the game use. Little things like that, I think, would go a LONG way toward giving us unique-feeling characters without altering game mechanics.

Just my two Septims.

Very interesting setup. I do have a question though. Do you plan on actually tanking with it? because while it should be fine for normal dungeons, you're gunna want a sword/board bar and maybe swap out one of the skills (on each bar) for an instant taunt for vet dungeons and trials. Also they already have a system in place for collectible ability skins so I'm sure we'll be getting some zombie skins for pet abilities in a future crown crate season... then again I thought we'd get them with the previous one so who knows.

mb10

Lol "lichdom"

We are the vestige you know. The hero of tamriel.

How the hell can he/she be a Lich?? That makes absolutely no sense lmao

I personally hope ZOS never implement a necromancer class. We don't need another pet class and the necromancy should have been in base game if anything to go in line with the Mannimarco and Molag Bal story.

kirk_lewis_ESO

I want affliction, stuns and dot spells. Necromancers are about torturing, doing the forbidden and spreading terror. The ult could be a giant swarm of disease carrying bugs that cause some sort of affliction.

kirk_lewis_ESO

Wow introduced the demon hunter class as using the power of the enemy against them. ZOS can add a similar back story. Maybe we take the fight to coldharbor in a last desperate attempt but we get tainted.

monktoasty

I think it be cool to have a system where if you do necromancy in front of any npcs you get a bounty lol

Tyrobag

mb10 wrote: »

Lol "lichdom"

We are the vestige you know. The hero of tamriel.

How the hell can he/she be a Lich?? That makes absolutely no sense lmao

You realize the the vestige is practically already a lich right? The process of becoming a lich requires one to remove their soul, bind it to an object, then take it back into themselves. Thats exactly what happened to you, except the "object" was Coldharbor and the ritual was drawn out longer than usual (the entire MQ). How did you think we were still immortal after getting our soul back?

So that makes absolutely complete sense lmao

Tyrobag

monktoasty wrote: »

I think it be cool to have a system where if you do necromancy in front of any npcs you get a bounty lol

Except that necromancy isn't illegal in most of Tamriel. Most places you can practice necromancy on any criminals and outlaws you want (or theoretically if you have the "owner's" permission). In Morrowind its illegal to raise dunmer, otherwise they don't care. Hammerfell is the only place that necromancy is completely illegal. Most people wouldn't be happy about it, but there's nothing they can do as long as you aren't raising corpses of citizens. Eventually the Mage's guild bans it. But that's not until the 3rd era and its just guild policy, not law.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

stimpy986b14_ESO wrote: »

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

Why not offer undead-style skins for Sorcerer/Warden pets? No differences in functionality, just cosmetics.

I'm currently modeling Orc MagBlade alt as a Lich, and it's pretty stylistically close.

I'm using 2-piece Nerien'eth's, 5-piece Bahraha's Curse (AoE bar), and 5-piece Caluurion's Legacy (single-target bar).

My AoE bar is Volcanic Rune, Blockade of Frost, Twisting Path, Sap Essence, and Consuming Trap (Ultimate is Bolstering Darkness).

My single-target bar is Weakness to Elements, Merciless Resolve, Dark Shades, Swallow Soul, and Spiked Bone Shield (Ultimate is Soul Assault).

This build feels VERY much like a necromancer should, given how your abilities work on a target. You really do feel like you're draining their life force. And visually, it really does remind you of the lich mobs/bosses throughout the game. In all honesty, the only thing that's missing is some sort of undead summoning visual.

Using my build as an example, it would be nice to have a "skin" that would make the visual effect of Bolstering Darkness look like the skeletal hand AoE snare thingy some of the mobs in the game use. Little things like that, I think, would go a LONG way toward giving us unique-feeling characters without altering game mechanics.

Just my two Septims.

Very interesting setup. I do have a question though. Do you plan on actually tanking with it? because while it should be fine for normal dungeons, you're gunna want a sword/board bar and maybe swap out one of the skills (on each bar) for an instant taunt for vet dungeons and trials. Also they already have a system in place for collectible ability skins so I'm sure we'll be getting some zombie skins for pet abilities in a future crown crate season... then again I thought we'd get them with the previous one so who knows.

This is strictly a DPS set-up. I swap the front-bar frost staff for another lightning staff when I take it into dungeons.

Funny thing is, this is my crafting/gathering alt. I hadn't even THOUGHT of running dungeons with it until I swapped to this setup and noticed how insanely quickly mob packs were melting with it. I run the front bar for trash pulls, and add in the back bar for boss fights.

Drives like a DREAM.

EDIT: I'm getting my spell crit buffs from potions, and regen and penetration values from Champion Points.

Ankael07

Vestige is practically half daedra half mortal that can become a vampire,werewolve with zombie personality/skin and ride around Skeletal mounts assassinating citizens in the name of Sithis but divines forbid if they want to cast a few more Soul Magic than we already have.

stimpy986b14_ESO

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

stimpy986b14_ESO wrote: »

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

Why not offer undead-style skins for Sorcerer/Warden pets? No differences in functionality, just cosmetics.

I'm currently modeling Orc MagBlade alt as a Lich, and it's pretty stylistically close.

I'm using 2-piece Nerien'eth's, 5-piece Bahraha's Curse (AoE bar), and 5-piece Caluurion's Legacy (single-target bar).

My AoE bar is Volcanic Rune, Blockade of Frost, Twisting Path, Sap Essence, and Consuming Trap (Ultimate is Bolstering Darkness).

My single-target bar is Weakness to Elements, Merciless Resolve, Dark Shades, Swallow Soul, and Spiked Bone Shield (Ultimate is Soul Assault).

This build feels VERY much like a necromancer should, given how your abilities work on a target. You really do feel like you're draining their life force. And visually, it really does remind you of the lich mobs/bosses throughout the game. In all honesty, the only thing that's missing is some sort of undead summoning visual.

Using my build as an example, it would be nice to have a "skin" that would make the visual effect of Bolstering Darkness look like the skeletal hand AoE snare thingy some of the mobs in the game use. Little things like that, I think, would go a LONG way toward giving us unique-feeling characters without altering game mechanics.

Just my two Septims.

Very interesting setup. I do have a question though. Do you plan on actually tanking with it? because while it should be fine for normal dungeons, you're gunna want a sword/board bar and maybe swap out one of the skills (on each bar) for an instant taunt for vet dungeons and trials. Also they already have a system in place for collectible ability skins so I'm sure we'll be getting some zombie skins for pet abilities in a future crown crate season... then again I thought we'd get them with the previous one so who knows.

This is strictly a DPS set-up. I swap the front-bar frost staff for another lightning staff when I take it into dungeons.

Funny thing is, this is my crafting/gathering alt. I hadn't even THOUGHT of running dungeons with it until I swapped to this setup and noticed how insanely quickly mob packs were melting with it. I run the front bar for trash pulls, and add in the back bar for boss fights.

Drives like a DREAM.

EDIT: I'm getting my spell crit buffs from potions, and regen and penetration values from Champion Points.

Ok that makes more sense. thanks for clarifying. That said, I'd also change a few things as DPS. A: swap out one of the sets for "Withered hand" because it give some more sustain and it uses the worm cult motif (in case you don't get it during the event) and B: swap out Bolstering Darkness for Veil of Blades, Soul Tether, or Meteor. just my two septims

Revokus

Ankael07 wrote: »

Vestige is practically half daedra half mortal that can become a vampire,werewolve with zombie personality/skin and ride around Skeletal mounts assassinating citizens in the name of Sithis but divines forbid if they want to cast a few more Soul Magic than we already have.

This ! so much this lmao ^^ how could they still defend with ¨it's illegal¨??!... it won't be illegal until the 3rd Era and even then all other elder scrolls game allow you to use necromancy. Never give up against the negative nancy's that are against players having necromancers my friend ^^.