So... ESO class representation is coming soon; What do you hope will change for your class?

MaxwellC

I really hope whoever gets chosen to represent the DK class brings back Flames of Oblivion with AoE (yes the burning it provides too_ but with the ability for it to change based on highest damage source/power.
I really want chains to lose the major expedition for both morphs but for Empowering I want it to have a root and for unrelenting I want it to have both minor breech and minor fracture.
It'll be nice if Igneous weapons could be turned to a poison morph that makes it so each heavy attack causes a poison explosion (AoE) plus increases the amount of resources returned (player only)
There's plenty of passives I'd love changed but that'll take too long to discuss... With that said, what changes would you like to do for your class if you were to represent it?
-Discuss

MLGProPlayer

All I want is for magicka warden to stop hitting like a wet noodle in PvE.

GeorgeBlack

One person per class cannot represent an entire playerbase. Especially when those candidates are min/maxers with a very narrow goal in the gaming experience

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

I will say this again...I HATE magDK from the top of my heart...I despise that class and I will always do so and never change my point of view about it due to what happened in the 1st year after launch but right now...they need some love from the devs...that class is literally useless in PvE
as for what I hope it will change for my class? make stamblades more of direct dmg dealers instead of dot spammers...

AlienatedGoat

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

All I want is for magicka warden to stop hitting like a wet noodle in PvE.

Seconded.

Also, perhaps some changes to make Mag DPS more in line with Stam DPS.

Bam_Bam

BUFF STAMBLADES. NERF SORCS.

CHM228

As healer lover, I want ZOS to improve non- Templar / Warden class's healing ability.
Any class can heal, but not that efficient as templar. I wanna see other class healer on trials too.

Arobain

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

I will say this again...I HATE magDK from the top of my heart...I despise that class and I will always do so and never change my point of view about it due to what happened in the 1st year after launch but right now...they need some love from the devs...that class is literally useless in PvE
as for what I hope it will change for my class? make stamblades more of direct dmg dealers instead of dot spammers...

lol, no class is useless, please stop tripping so *** hard

GeorgeBlack

An example if I may, which is irrelevant to classes but still...

I like dual wielding. I dont think the dual wielding skill line is satisfying.
Min/maxers will argue DW is excellent.
Flying daggger good spammable
Blade cloak good utility skill
Weapon type good PASSIVE stats.
Steelnado top aoe skill.
DW top PvE choice.

If there were representatives to be chosen for weapons, a min maxer would build on those strengths.

1)What is flying dagger? The most reliable PvP dmg skill of DW(same as rending slashes). What does a flying dagger have to do with DW which is a melee playstyle at which you use 2 weapons to slay an enemy
2)What the hell has blade cloak to do with DW? Stupid concept. Change the artwork. Give it to tanking weapon SnB and name it whatever.
3)Weapon type PASSIVES. Min/maxers love passive stats. What about active playstyle? Where is a good reliable spammable aggressive ability for ferocious warriors that hild 2 weapons.
I dont care that much about passive playstyle.
I dont care about DW being used as melee magika characters. Give them a new magika weapon. Dont treat my weapon as passive stat bonuses.
4)Steelnado. Brainless PvE. It became again brainless PvP. Why dont you improve WhirlingBlades? There is no concept at which it would perform better and as reliably than/as Steelnado. Non existant benefits in using it.
5)Flurry. Thanks to AC this ability and its awsome concept does not work in a realistic scenario at which you must AC and by doing that you will lose the dmg from the last hit.
ZOS MAKE THE DMG FRONTLOADED IN FLURRY
6)PvE weapon. Well to hell with that. DW is used in PvP only for passive reasons. The active combat comes from other sources.


Represent what? Zos devs play your game and get to know it.
All of you should every class every weapon type and every armor type(not set. Btw remove proc sets). You should know every skill line and improve the weak points. Nerf the OP. Kill BiS

Minyassa

I would like to see sorcerors be given 5000 free crowns per week.

FloppyTouch

MDks a spot in group pve dps and battle roar back

Sixsixsix161

Some issues for me:

1. The change that took place when Morrowind was released, concerning the magsorc and warden pets/minions that can be pulled off of the enemy with a heavy staff attack. When I'm fighting 4-5 enemies, I don't need my pet running around from one enemy to another, and not accomplishing anything by doing that. He's supposed to tank for me, if I want him to go to another enemy, I'll use the keyboard command to have him to go there.


2. I just returned from a lengthy absence (finally left WoW for good after 14 years), and discovered that the magsorc spell Crystal Fragment no longer knocks down an enemy, and I think that this also was removed from one of the destroy staffs (have not looked real close yet, but after playing a few hours, I can't remember knocking anyone down).

And please, enlighten us a little why some of these changes need to be made. Regarding 1 above, what happen to cause that change. This was a major change for those of use with pets. Did the president of the company get killed by a magsorc and his pet and couldn't handle it?

I also researched 2 a little yesterday but couldn't find anything about that issue.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to vent a little lol.

Anti_Virus

Poison whip for stam Dk.

More stam morphs for the class in general

RomansXXI

Please make magdk great again! So much fun to play was really great but is now laughable in terms of dps. I would love to blow the dust off my old magdk alt

srfrogg23

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

One person per class cannot represent an entire playerbase. Especially when those candidates are min/maxers with a very narrow goal in the gaming experience

I hate to say it, but this is a concern of mine as well. I always get a bit nervous when a company defers to the min/maxers for advice on game balance. Hopefully they don’t start gutting the skills and pigeon-holing everyone into the exact same builds like Blizzard did with WoW.

Peekachu99

I’m hoping they select relatively helpful representatives and not just streamers who will increase their profile the most. I think it’s important to realize that not everyone aspires for Vet HM clears. (Having said that I just got my VSP one tonight, yay!). Nor min maxing. And while knowledge of one’s class in this regard is a requirement, the representatives should be educated (on the game) enough to make recommendations for players of all skill levels.

I think there’s a massive gulf between the skills possessed by new players vs. end game players, so there’s something to be said for appealing to the “mid-tier” raiders, who make up probably one of the larger sections of the dedicated player base. I.E. People who do vet dungeons, but who aren’t clearing VMoL on a regular basis.

GeorgeBlack

srfrogg23 wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

One person per class cannot represent an entire playerbase. Especially when those candidates are min/maxers with a very narrow goal in the gaming experience

I hate to say it, but this is a concern of mine as well. I always get a bit nervous when a company defers to the min/maxers for advice on game balance. Hopefully they don’t start gutting the skills and pigeon-holing everyone into the exact same builds like Blizzard did with WoW.

I cannot imagine them giving such authority to gamers.

Vanthras79

Perhaps a combat update article.

srfrogg23

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

srfrogg23 wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

One person per class cannot represent an entire playerbase. Especially when those candidates are min/maxers with a very narrow goal in the gaming experience

I hate to say it, but this is a concern of mine as well. I always get a bit nervous when a company defers to the min/maxers for advice on game balance. Hopefully they don’t start gutting the skills and pigeon-holing everyone into the exact same builds like Blizzard did with WoW.

I cannot imagine them giving such authority to gamers.

I’d hope that Zos is smarter than that. Blizzard hired Ion “Has-it-cost-us” as a lead designer because he was supposed to be some super dedicated gamer, raider, and guild leader, and WoW just went down the toilet after that. “These abilities aren’t necessary for raiding, delete them!”

Thogard

Would like warden trees to not lag so much when getting placed.

Pink_Violinz

Good lord, just anything positive for magplar dps. They're one of the worst dps classes, which is such a shame since they're by far my favorite class and morph.

tplink3r1

I hope they completely abandon the Templar "House" design.

Lynx7386

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

One person per class cannot represent an entire playerbase. Especially when those candidates are min/maxers with a very narrow goal in the gaming experience

Fully agree. I was actually nominated for the nightblade class rep and turned the position down, I hardly play my nightblade anymore (main a warden tank nowadays) and honestly my zone of experience is mostly PvE endgame, I usually tend to avoid PvP, so there's no way I could provide a full, all-encompassing level of feedback on the class.

I dont think any single person can actually provide unbiased feedback on a class - everyone is going to favor magicka or stamina, pve or pvp, tanking or healing or dps, there's not a single person that does it all equally well and with equal amounts of knowledge and skill.


Unfortunately, I get the feeling ZOS isnt thinking this through, and is going to take feedback from people who are entirely committed to one part of the game or the other at the cost of all else. There are FAR too many people on these forums who only play pve, or only play pvp, and they're overly vocal about what they want for their preferred class. That kind of feedback has led to the dozens upon dozens of nerfs we've seen over the course of this game, many of which were focused on pvp and resulted in unintended and unforseen issues arising on the pve side of the game (*cough* block nerfs *cough*).

I would be more than happy to give my feedback on the warden, I would LOVE to talk to ZOS one on one about that class and what I think it needs, but at the same time I'm well aware that my opinion isnt the only one, and no amount of pve tanking/dps/healing experience on my part translates into proper pvp changes. Unfortunately most other players around here arent as humble in that regard.

Morgul667

I hope sorc class bugs get sorted out :

- pets AI issues + combats friendliness to pet
- overload switch bar
- stamsorc is not mobile anymore due to all the snare / cc
- tombs do not hit multiple target on some bosses
- lighting staff bug

GeorgeBlack

Morgul667 wrote: »

I hope sorc class bugs get sorted out :

- pets AI issues + combats friendliness to pet
- overload switch bar
- stamsorc is not mobile anymore due to all the snare / cc
- tombs do not hit multiple target on some bosses
- lighting staff bug

How is DK mobile with all the snares?

Morgul667

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

I hope sorc class bugs get sorted out :

- pets AI issues + combats friendliness to pet
- overload switch bar
- stamsorc is not mobile anymore due to all the snare / cc
- tombs do not hit multiple target on some bosses
- lighting staff bug

How is DK mobile with all the snares?

StamSorc gameplay is about inherent mobility, DK gameplay is about inherent tankiness. I'm fine with classes having differences

Morgul667

I'll add correction of below bug :

- unable to use dizziying swing after a critical rush, you need to go backwards a bit then start to use dizziying swing
- make dizziying swing more reliable
- DboS more reliable / less buggy

Rungar

everyone has to wear alkosh and ebon. Doesn't matter what class. All other sets will be removed from the game incase anyone gets any radical ideas.

Animus-ESO

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

An example if I may, which is irrelevant to classes but still...

I like dual wielding. I dont think the dual wielding skill line is satisfying.
Min/maxers will argue DW is excellent.
Flying daggger good spammable
Blade cloak good utility skill
Weapon type good PASSIVE stats.
Steelnado top aoe skill.
DW top PvE choice.

If there were representatives to be chosen for weapons, a min maxer would build on those strengths.

1)What is flying dagger? The most reliable PvP dmg skill of DW(same as rending slashes). What does a flying dagger have to do with DW which is a melee playstyle at which you use 2 weapons to slay an enemy
2)What the hell has blade cloak to do with DW? Stupid concept. Change the artwork. Give it to tanking weapon SnB and name it whatever.
3)Weapon type PASSIVES. Min/maxers love passive stats. What about active playstyle? Where is a good reliable spammable aggressive ability for ferocious warriors that hild 2 weapons.
I dont care that much about passive playstyle.
I dont care about DW being used as melee magika characters. Give them a new magika weapon. Dont treat my weapon as passive stat bonuses.
4)Steelnado. Brainless PvE. It became again brainless PvP. Why dont you improve WhirlingBlades? There is no concept at which it would perform better and as reliably than/as Steelnado. Non existant benefits in using it.
5)Flurry. Thanks to AC this ability and its awsome concept does not work in a realistic scenario at which you must AC and by doing that you will lose the dmg from the last hit.
ZOS MAKE THE DMG FRONTLOADED IN FLURRY
6)PvE weapon. Well to hell with that. DW is used in PvP only for passive reasons. The active combat comes from other sources.


Represent what? Zos devs play your game and get to know it.
All of you should every class every weapon type and every armor type(not set. Btw remove proc sets). You should know every skill line and improve the weak points. Nerf the OP. Kill BiS

I think flying blade should be a DW gap closer with major brutality attached to it

DHale

Hoping no more nerfs.

Seraphayel

RomansXXI wrote: »

Please make magdk great again! So much fun to play was really great but is now laughable in terms of dps. I would love to blow the dust off my old magdk alt

I'd say get rid of the Magicka/Stamina morphs entirely. Let always your highest stat scale with the skill. Would give us so much more build diversity.