Little bit of new Murkmire datamining

WhiteCoatSyndrome

About time. The poor thing has been waiting for release for years. Literally.

SilverIce58

Seraphayel wrote: »

Kendaric wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

And we don't need another DC zone. DC got Craglorn and Orsinium already.

DC zone? *narrows his eyes* Murkmire is part of Black Marsh and therefore belongs to the Pact.

Where did I say that Murkmire is a DC zone? I said we don't need another DC because we already got one. That was a direct answer to the person that said a DC Chapter should be next.

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Isn't this rather the new Chapter next year and we get Mephala's Realm as a zone later this year?

Maybe we'll get two zone DLCs, Mephala's Realm and Murkmire? Altho I'd rather have Murkmire as a chapter like you suggested, with Spiral Skein as the zone DLC.

I mean how would Murkmire fit into the Summerset setting/lore? Clockwork City was teased during Morrowind so I'd say Mephala's Realm (which they announced as a zone several years ago) seems quite likely as the Q3 or Q4 DLC and Murkmire next year.

And we don't need another DC zone. DC got Craglorn and Orsinium already.

I mean, I don't see it "fitting in" with the Daedric War storyline that's been happening, so if it was a DLC it'd be Q4 DLC, but if it's a chapter, then we don't have to worry about it.

Also, what are you talking about, DC zone @Seraphayel ? Spiral Skein is the name of Mephala's Realm.

We still need to fill in the rest of Hammerfell, Elsweyr, Black Marsh, Morrowind, Skyrim, and whatever other parts of Cyrodiil. We're done filling in High Rock, Valenwood, and now Summerset.

And where did I say Mephala's Realm is s DC zone?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

BigBadVolk

Turelus wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

OOOOO, time to murder some argonians soon

I've always liked the way you think.

but who will work on my farm

TelvanniWizard

BigBadVolk wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

OOOOO, time to murder some argonians soon

I've always liked the way you think.

but who will work on my farm

Next time, tag better your property.

Abysswarrior45

Enough with new content, fix whats already here ffs!

ADarklore

They've been adding 'Murkmire' stuff as stand-alone Dungeon content... probably because Murkmire was originally scheduled as a 'group' zone and with Craglorn being an utter failure, I don't see them adding it as another ZONE, let alone a chapter. Plus, a DLC doesn't need to correspond to a chapter, does Dragonbones correspond to Morrowind? Did Shadows of the Hist or Horns of the Reach correspond to Morrowind? NO... so what makes people think that because Murkmire has been datamined that it means a DLC zone versus DLC dungeon?

Jolipinator

ADarklore wrote: »

so what makes people think that because Murkmire has been datamined that it means a DLC zone versus DLC dungeon?

This: https://elderscrolls.net/2015/02/27/12819-tes-online-novye-kadry-merkmajjra-carstva-mefaly-zavodnogo-goroda-i-abahs-landing/

And this: https://elderscrolls.net/2014/07/20/9694-budushhee-eso-priklyuchencheskaya-zona-merkmajjr/

Dyride

I'm really hoping we see southeast Cyrodiil at some point, Nibenay Valley (Bravil, Leyawiin) and east to Blackwood. I would also like to see the Bay of Topals in eastern Elsweyr, though I think that those regions are flu-ravaged during this time.

SilverIce58

Dyride wrote: »

I'm really hoping we see southeast Cyrodiil at some point, Nibenay Valley (Bravil, Leyawiin) and east to Blackwood. I would also like to see the Bay of Topals in eastern Elsweyr, though I think that those regions are flu-ravaged during this time.

Same, I really want to see what Leyawiin looks like currently. That area was one of my favorites in Oblivion.

Sicardus

I'm really excited for Murkmire to come out if this is true! It'll certainly add more answers to the mysteries of Argonia.

Chaos2088

If we are getting Murkmire this year....I will be pleasantly shocked.

Just want the whole of the map.....give me, GIVE ME!

JD2013

The only problem with them adding Murkmire now is that it will literally be half of the zone it used to be. When we saw the original map back in 2014, it looked to be quite a large zone. It was going to be an Adventure Zone a la Craglorn probably with a comparable number of delves and group events and the such.

If they release it now, it’ll just be the size of Clockwork City, 2 delves, 2 world bosses, one main hub. And that’s a great shame. I wish we could have seen original Murkmire.

TelvanniWizard

JD2013 wrote: »

The only problem with them adding Murkmire now is that it will literally be half of the zone it used to be. When we saw the original map back in 2014, it looked to be quite a large zone. It was going to be an Adventure Zone a la Craglorn probably with a comparable number of delves and group events and the such.

If they release it now, it’ll just be the size of Clockwork City, 2 delves, 2 world bosses, one main hub. And that’s a great shame. I wish we could have seen original Murkmire.

Well, we don´t know yet how is it gonna be. There´s still much time and a chapter between now and Murkmire. Always considering the case that the datamined things are for this year, or actually gonna happen. We already had news about Murkmire a long time ago and it didn´t happen. Let´s wait a little bit before making any assumption.

JD2013

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

The only problem with them adding Murkmire now is that it will literally be half of the zone it used to be. When we saw the original map back in 2014, it looked to be quite a large zone. It was going to be an Adventure Zone a la Craglorn probably with a comparable number of delves and group events and the such.

If they release it now, it’ll just be the size of Clockwork City, 2 delves, 2 world bosses, one main hub. And that’s a great shame. I wish we could have seen original Murkmire.

Well, we don´t know yet how is it gonna be. There´s still much time and a chapter between now and Murkmire. Always considering the case that the datamined things are for this year, or actually gonna happen. We already had news about Murkmire a long time ago and it didn´t happen. Let´s wait a little bit before making any assumption.

The datamine shows 16 cells ... Same as Clockwork City.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Darkstorne wrote: »

Ooo! So this is likely the winter DLC this year? Makes sense given so many assets from the Mazzatun dungeon DLC can be reused. Heck, now I'm wondering if we should expect Skyrim DLC/Chapter next year after the Falkreath dungeon pack introduced new assets...

I'm honestly kind of hoping for Murkmire as a Chapter. (Though it makes more sense for the next to be DC-related, but what's left of the DC to visit?)

More dessert

cyclonus11

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Darkstorne wrote: »

Ooo! So this is likely the winter DLC this year? Makes sense given so many assets from the Mazzatun dungeon DLC can be reused. Heck, now I'm wondering if we should expect Skyrim DLC/Chapter next year after the Falkreath dungeon pack introduced new assets...

I'm honestly kind of hoping for Murkmire as a Chapter. (Though it makes more sense for the next to be DC-related, but what's left of the DC to visit?)

More dessert

mmmmmm pie

cyclonus11

QuebraRegra wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

OOOOO, time to murder some argonians soon

You can kill some Argonians, or you can try, before the swamp kills more Bosmer than you can count.

how do Bosmer and Argonians not come together to throw down the Aldmeri overlords? I mean we got Hist and Yffre, etc.

I thought Argonian/Khajiit/Bosmer and Dunmer/Nord/Orsimer would've been better alliances. Why would Argonians ally with their slavers, and why would Orcs ally with the civilizations that are constantly sacking them?

I know that puts the Altmer together with two man races (Bretons and Redguards), but the way they layed out the Dominion storyline with fighting the supremacists and what have you, it could still work.

Highlor3

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Darkstorne wrote: »

Ooo! So this is likely the winter DLC this year? Makes sense given so many assets from the Mazzatun dungeon DLC can be reused. Heck, now I'm wondering if we should expect Skyrim DLC/Chapter next year after the Falkreath dungeon pack introduced new assets...

I'm honestly kind of hoping for Murkmire as a Chapter. (Though it makes more sense for the next to be DC-related, but what's left of the DC to visit?)

SilverIce58

Highlor3 wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Darkstorne wrote: »

Ooo! So this is likely the winter DLC this year? Makes sense given so many assets from the Mazzatun dungeon DLC can be reused. Heck, now I'm wondering if we should expect Skyrim DLC/Chapter next year after the Falkreath dungeon pack introduced new assets...

I'm honestly kind of hoping for Murkmire as a Chapter. (Though it makes more sense for the next to be DC-related, but what's left of the DC to visit?)

It's like people don't realize how large Hammerfell really is. A desert isn't just one zone, you guys.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

cyclonus11 wrote: »

I know that puts the Altmer together with two man races (Bretons and Redguards), but the way they layed out the Dominion storyline with fighting the supremacists and what have you, it could still work.

The Bretons have allied with the Direnni in the past (Battle of Glenumbra Moors) and the Direnni are Altmer, and the Redguards and the Altmer both venerate the stars. Mind, the Redguards seem to have some anti-mer sentiment courtesy of the Lefthanded Elves of Yokuda, but it's not the worst alliance combination imaginable.

MornaBaine

But my Bretons... *SIGH*

Sicardus

JD2013 wrote: »

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

The only problem with them adding Murkmire now is that it will literally be half of the zone it used to be. When we saw the original map back in 2014, it looked to be quite a large zone. It was going to be an Adventure Zone a la Craglorn probably with a comparable number of delves and group events and the such.

If they release it now, it’ll just be the size of Clockwork City, 2 delves, 2 world bosses, one main hub. And that’s a great shame. I wish we could have seen original Murkmire.

Well, we don´t know yet how is it gonna be. There´s still much time and a chapter between now and Murkmire. Always considering the case that the datamined things are for this year, or actually gonna happen. We already had news about Murkmire a long time ago and it didn´t happen. Let´s wait a little bit before making any assumption.

The datamine shows 16 cells ... Same as Clockwork City.

That's my fear as well. However, I just can't see them shrinking the zone. If so, there's more area left for future DLC/Expansion I guess.

Voxicity

Sicardus wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

The only problem with them adding Murkmire now is that it will literally be half of the zone it used to be. When we saw the original map back in 2014, it looked to be quite a large zone. It was going to be an Adventure Zone a la Craglorn probably with a comparable number of delves and group events and the such.

If they release it now, it’ll just be the size of Clockwork City, 2 delves, 2 world bosses, one main hub. And that’s a great shame. I wish we could have seen original Murkmire.

Well, we don´t know yet how is it gonna be. There´s still much time and a chapter between now and Murkmire. Always considering the case that the datamined things are for this year, or actually gonna happen. We already had news about Murkmire a long time ago and it didn´t happen. Let´s wait a little bit before making any assumption.

The datamine shows 16 cells ... Same as Clockwork City.

That's my fear as well. However, I just can't see them shrinking the zone. If so, there's more area left for future DLC/Expansion I guess.

Someone who knows a bit more than me can correct me if I'm wrong

But I'm pretty sure the zones in this game aren't scaled the same. Meaning ZOS could occupy all of 'murkmire' on the map, and scale it to whatever size they want. So just because the zone may be smaller, doesn't mean there is any guarantee that there will be anything left to expand, in that area

I probably explained that badly but whatever

Sicardus

Voxicity wrote: »

Sicardus wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

The only problem with them adding Murkmire now is that it will literally be half of the zone it used to be. When we saw the original map back in 2014, it looked to be quite a large zone. It was going to be an Adventure Zone a la Craglorn probably with a comparable number of delves and group events and the such.

If they release it now, it’ll just be the size of Clockwork City, 2 delves, 2 world bosses, one main hub. And that’s a great shame. I wish we could have seen original Murkmire.

Well, we don´t know yet how is it gonna be. There´s still much time and a chapter between now and Murkmire. Always considering the case that the datamined things are for this year, or actually gonna happen. We already had news about Murkmire a long time ago and it didn´t happen. Let´s wait a little bit before making any assumption.

The datamine shows 16 cells ... Same as Clockwork City.

That's my fear as well. However, I just can't see them shrinking the zone. If so, there's more area left for future DLC/Expansion I guess.

Someone who knows a bit more than me can correct me if I'm wrong

But I'm pretty sure the zones in this game aren't scaled the same. Meaning ZOS could occupy all of 'murkmire' on the map, and scale it to whatever size they want. So just because the zone may be smaller, doesn't mean there is any guarantee that there will be anything left to expand, in that area

I probably explained that badly but whatever

In that case, I can't see why they'd shrink the zone, other than for lack of content. I thought the number of map cells implied the map size.

Vanthras79

With datamined spellcrafting and Murkmire assets getting added, ZOS may have finally delivered on all aspects of Quakecon 2014. Soooooooon™.

BigBadVolk

Sicardus wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Sicardus wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

The only problem with them adding Murkmire now is that it will literally be half of the zone it used to be. When we saw the original map back in 2014, it looked to be quite a large zone. It was going to be an Adventure Zone a la Craglorn probably with a comparable number of delves and group events and the such.

If they release it now, it’ll just be the size of Clockwork City, 2 delves, 2 world bosses, one main hub. And that’s a great shame. I wish we could have seen original Murkmire.

Well, we don´t know yet how is it gonna be. There´s still much time and a chapter between now and Murkmire. Always considering the case that the datamined things are for this year, or actually gonna happen. We already had news about Murkmire a long time ago and it didn´t happen. Let´s wait a little bit before making any assumption.

The datamine shows 16 cells ... Same as Clockwork City.

That's my fear as well. However, I just can't see them shrinking the zone. If so, there's more area left for future DLC/Expansion I guess.

Someone who knows a bit more than me can correct me if I'm wrong

But I'm pretty sure the zones in this game aren't scaled the same. Meaning ZOS could occupy all of 'murkmire' on the map, and scale it to whatever size they want. So just because the zone may be smaller, doesn't mean there is any guarantee that there will be anything left to expand, in that area

I probably explained that badly but whatever

In that case, I can't see why they'd shrink the zone, other than for lack of content. I thought the number of map cells implied the map size.

Or even they can do the same like they did with craglorn I mean they release half or a part of it and later the other part of it and we only get the smaller one for now but maybe not

Voxicity

Sicardus wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Sicardus wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

The only problem with them adding Murkmire now is that it will literally be half of the zone it used to be. When we saw the original map back in 2014, it looked to be quite a large zone. It was going to be an Adventure Zone a la Craglorn probably with a comparable number of delves and group events and the such.

If they release it now, it’ll just be the size of Clockwork City, 2 delves, 2 world bosses, one main hub. And that’s a great shame. I wish we could have seen original Murkmire.

Well, we don´t know yet how is it gonna be. There´s still much time and a chapter between now and Murkmire. Always considering the case that the datamined things are for this year, or actually gonna happen. We already had news about Murkmire a long time ago and it didn´t happen. Let´s wait a little bit before making any assumption.

The datamine shows 16 cells ... Same as Clockwork City.

That's my fear as well. However, I just can't see them shrinking the zone. If so, there's more area left for future DLC/Expansion I guess.

Someone who knows a bit more than me can correct me if I'm wrong

But I'm pretty sure the zones in this game aren't scaled the same. Meaning ZOS could occupy all of 'murkmire' on the map, and scale it to whatever size they want. So just because the zone may be smaller, doesn't mean there is any guarantee that there will be anything left to expand, in that area

I probably explained that badly but whatever

In that case, I can't see why they'd shrink the zone, other than for lack of content. I thought the number of map cells implied the map size.

Cells does imply map size. But that doesn't mean it's going to be proportional in terms of the wolrd map to other zones for example

I think i explained it wrong anyway

Sicardus

The original Murkmire composite map doesn't exactly seem to match Wrothgar's size, now that I reexamine it.

Sticky_Paws

Hm.. Im intrigued by the possiblity of BlackMarsh, but Id love to see more Elsweyr. Actually I want more of Elsweyr a bit more than Blackmarsh. Hm. Both soon I hope!

HappyLittleTree

YASS I'm so ready for more Argonia/Black Marsh Content!
Maybe there's more story for the Kothringi or Lilmothiit too


Hopefully we'll also get a proper XANMEER house