Which race for nightblade?

Aesanor

Hi there,
I'm a new player and I'd like to start two different characters, a stamblade and a magblade. I know this question was asked a billion times, but I can't find a recent and satisfying answer, so.. Which race for stamina and which one for magicka? Mainly for PVP, but if you don't mind tell me even wich ones for PVE. NO ARGONIANS and KHAJIITS, I know argonians have op healing etc but those two races look awful and I don't want to play as an inferior beast (this will trigger many people maybe). If you'll answer this ty

kypranb14_ESO

Aesanor wrote: »

Hi there,
I'm a new player and I'd like to start two different characters, a stamblade and a magblade. I know this question was asked a billion times, but I can't find a recent and satisfying answer, so.. Which race for stamina and which one for magicka? Mainly for PVP, but if you don't mind tell me even wich ones for PVE. NO ARGONIANS and KHAJIITS, I know argonians have op healing etc but those two races look awful and I don't want to play as an inferior beast (this will trigger many people maybe). If you'll answer this ty

Bosmer for PVP Stamina Nightblade.

Argonian for PVP Caster Magicka Nightblade.

Breton/High Elf/Dumner for Melee Magicka Nightblade.

starkerealm

Aesanor wrote: »

Which race for stamina and which one for magicka?

For Magicka, like others have said, Breton, High Elf, Dark Elf, in basically any order. The High Elf has higher overall damage, the Dark Elf excells at flame damage, and the Breton is a bit beefier than the other two.

There's a few things worth remembering though: High Elves get a bonus to elemental damage (fire, lightning, and cold), and if you're a sorc then that's great. However, for nightblades, most of their in-class damage will be Magic. As in, that's the damage type. As a result, neither the High Elf, nor the Dark Elf, will get any bonus damage to that specifically. However, most magicka builds also use the destro staff, and that will do elemental damage that the High Elf (and potentially the Dark Elf) get bonuses for.

So, choose accordingly.

For Stamina, Bosmer and Khajiit are nice if you're working as a gank build. Imperial or Redguard are good for straight up skirmishing. Orcs and Nords can work well as stamblades in PvP.

The thing about PvP is, durability over straight damage can be far more valuable. If you're dead, it doesn't matter how much damage you're doing, and you are going up against players who can burn you. Traditionally tanky races can be very useful for a Stamblade in PvP.

Pink_Violinz

PVE:

Stamblade- khajiit or redguard. Redguard is bis.

Magblade- High elf or Dark elf. High elf is probably better.

Aesanor

kypranb14_ESO wrote: »

Aesanor wrote: »

Hi there,
I'm a new player and I'd like to start two different characters, a stamblade and a magblade. I know this question was asked a billion times, but I can't find a recent and satisfying answer, so.. Which race for stamina and which one for magicka? Mainly for PVP, but if you don't mind tell me even wich ones for PVE. NO ARGONIANS and KHAJIITS, I know argonians have op healing etc but those two races look awful and I don't want to play as an inferior beast (this will trigger many people maybe). If you'll answer this ty

Bosmer for PVP Stamina Nightblade.

Argonian for PVP Caster Magicka Nightblade.

Breton/High Elf/Dumner for Melee Magicka Nightblade.

Ty for the answer, between high elf and dunmer wich one is better or is better with more builds? Also is dunmer the choice if I plan to be a vampire or it doesn't matter?

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Nord for both stamblade and magblade is bis as you can say: hello, I'm the one and only Nord Nightblade!

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Seriously though I'd recommend-
Redguard (if plan on pve too if not then bosmer)

High elf

riberion

If you plan to use flame staves, Dunmer will give you a bit more damage than Altmer. However, I prefer Altmer, but only because the passives feel a bit more well rounded to me. I have each race as vampire, and I honestly don't notice much of a difference, but Dunmer will give you a bit of fire resistance.

I second Bosmer for stamblade. The passive stamina recovery is amazing.

Here's a link with all the racial passives.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Races

Ragnaroek93

Argonian. You can play stam and mag on the same char and be OP on it

JobooAGS

Pve redguard or khajiit
Pvp bosmer then redguard
If you want to do both, redguard

Tan9oSuccka

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Nord for both stamblade and magblade is bis as you can say: hello, I'm the one and only Nord Nightblade!

Nope. I also have a Nord Nightblade.

I recommend Redguard.

Bosmer and cats are good, but I think Redguards are the best.

Kalante

All these noobs saying bosmer. The meta right now is argonian for nightblade. If you want to pve go redguard for stamina nb or high elf for mag nb but you won't have the extreme survival that the argonians have infested pvp with. Right now is all about be as tanky as possible and still do tons of damage because the devs don't know how to balance this game if their life depended on it.

Aebaradath

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Nord for both stamblade and magblade is bis as you can say: hello, I'm the one and only Nord Nightblade!

That doesn't work. Met a Nord Nightblade called Yeastgramor; showed me his mag and stamblade.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

If you plan on being tiny and adorable, then Bosmer. If you want to be some ugly brute, then not Bosmer...

SecretJoy

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

If you plan on being tiny and adorable, then Bosmer. If you want to be some ugly brute, then not Bosmer...

Agreed. I love my tiny murderous Bosmer child

Tan9oSuccka

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Nord for both stamblade and magblade is bis as you can say: hello, I'm the one and only Nord Nightblade!

That doesn't work. Met a Nord Nightblade called Yeastgramor; showed me his mag and stamblade.

I got bailed out in a tough fight in Cyrodiil by “Fat Stibbons”.

Good times.

GimpyPorcupine

No one has mentioned Orc yet, but their Swift Warrior passive is great for both melee damage and quick getaways.

Bonzodog01

Orcs make a great stamblade. I have one, and she is strong.

But I have one thing to say - a stamblade? for PvP? Like, almost everyone is either a sorc or a stamblade. Its getting old, and tired.

Do something different - like Templar - Magplars are strong, Stamplars are difficult, but have their own little niche.

Violynne

kypranb14_ESO wrote: »

Bosmer for PVP Stamina Nightblade.

/discussion

Blackbird_V

PvE redguard. Anything else would give you major sustain issues.

PvP Bosmer or Redguard. Possible Bosmer hands down there.

Aesanor

Ty for all the answers guys, now I'm little bit more undecided. For stam i'm leaning towards bosmer (I'd like a rogue like blade only for PVP I think, and my stamden is redguard so a little more variety won't hurt). For mag i'm undecided between dunmer and highelf. Lorewise dunmer seems the better choice, but isn't it superior to highelf only for double fire staff builds? Or are they equally good and the difference is insignificant?

I won't go argonian because they look horrible to me ahahaha also even if their passives are amazing, they might be overturned and they could get nerfed

SecretJoy

Well, all of the above races would work well. It's really more about which race you enjoy playing. You shouldn't necessarily pick a race solely on skills. If there is one you like the look of, or the lore behind the race, then just go with that

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Mageblade: Dunmer is your best PVE option for sure, and is probably your best PVP option, especially if you say no Argonians. No other race worth considering except maybe Altmer, but dunmer is better for mageblade in the current meta. Only go Altmer if you plan to play with a lighting staff, which is rare in PVP, and a backbar weapon at most in PVE.

Stamblade: Redgaurd is your best PVE race for sure, especially if you rule out Khajiit. PVP is more of a judgement call. You can make good arguments for Redguard, Imperial, and Bosmer (some might even argue Orc).

-Redguard will have the best mix of damage and sustain.
-Bosmer will sustain the best, but wont hit as hard as a redguard.
-Imperial hits just as hard as redguard (same max stam boost), and is a little tankier (more health), but will have the worst sustain of the bunch.
-Orc has basically a watered down version of Imperial passives (smaller boost to health and stamina), but they also get a boost to melee weapon attacks and speed. They wont be quite as tanky as an imperial, but they will hit just about as hard and be more mobile. Like imperial, they lack sustain. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but he Orc "swift warrior" passive doesnt apply to any NB class skills like ambush, surprise attack, killers blade, or incap. Typically Orc is a more popular choice on a class that uses weapon skills for spammables (stam Sorc, stam DK,).

My personal preference is redguard, because I think its certainly the best PVE race. You are splitting hairs in PVP and all the downsides to each race can be compensated for. In PVP, sustain is really important.

TLDR. I would limit Mageblade to Dunmer or Altmer. I think Dunmer is the clear winner in the current meta now that most mageblades have dropped their lighting staff in PVE, and I think its always been the better option in PVP (fire destro ult hits harder and the extra stam is nice). I would limit Stamblade to Redguard or Bosmer. Only pick bosmer if end game PVE is off the table.

Metemsycosis

Aesanor wrote: »

Ty for all the answers guys, now I'm little bit more undecided. For stam i'm leaning towards bosmer (I'd like a rogue like blade only for PVP I think, and my stamden is redguard so a little more variety won't hurt). For mag i'm undecided between dunmer and highelf. Lorewise dunmer seems the better choice, but isn't it superior to highelf only for double fire staff builds? Or are they equally good and the difference is insignificant?

I won't go argonian because they look horrible to me ahahaha also even if their passives are amazing, they might be overturned and they could get nerfed

Pvp. I vote for dunmer stamblade. Extra Magicka is your friend, Stam recovery is easy to get on nightblade. Bosmer mageblade, to hit harder from perma cloak and never worry about, do I have enough stam to cc break?

SecretJoy

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Aesanor wrote: »

Ty for all the answers guys, now I'm little bit more undecided. For stam i'm leaning towards bosmer (I'd like a rogue like blade only for PVP I think, and my stamden is redguard so a little more variety won't hurt). For mag i'm undecided between dunmer and highelf. Lorewise dunmer seems the better choice, but isn't it superior to highelf only for double fire staff builds? Or are they equally good and the difference is insignificant?

I won't go argonian because they look horrible to me ahahaha also even if their passives are amazing, they might be overturned and they could get nerfed

Pvp. I vote for dunmer stamblade. Extra Magicka is your friend, Stam recovery is easy to get on nightblade. Bosmer mageblade, to hit harder from perma cloak and never worry about, do I have enough stam to cc break?

Hmm, did you mix up your stamblade and magblade picks?

Fallen_Ray

Aesanor wrote: »

Hi there,
I'm a new player and I'd like to start two different characters, a stamblade and a magblade. I know this question was asked a billion times, but I can't find a recent and satisfying answer, so.. Which race for stamina and which one for magicka? Mainly for PVP, but if you don't mind tell me even wich ones for PVE. NO ARGONIANS and KHAJIITS, I know argonians have op healing etc but those two races look awful and I don't want to play as an inferior beast (this will trigger many people maybe). If you'll answer this ty

Did you know that:

Argonians born under the sign of The Shadow are picked at birth and trained to be Shadow Scales for the Dark Brotherhood?
If you ask me a Nightblade goes with argonians with more reason than Kahjits do, even if the passives in this game hardly favors them for said class.

But going back to what you asked. Pick whichever race you like most. If you're a meta chaser. Listen to 90% of the replies here. Either way you can still be a good nightblade in end game no matter which race you choose. Have fun!

Oreyn_Bearclaw

SecretJoy wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Aesanor wrote: »

Ty for all the answers guys, now I'm little bit more undecided. For stam i'm leaning towards bosmer (I'd like a rogue like blade only for PVP I think, and my stamden is redguard so a little more variety won't hurt). For mag i'm undecided between dunmer and highelf. Lorewise dunmer seems the better choice, but isn't it superior to highelf only for double fire staff builds? Or are they equally good and the difference is insignificant?

I won't go argonian because they look horrible to me ahahaha also even if their passives are amazing, they might be overturned and they could get nerfed

Pvp. I vote for dunmer stamblade. Extra Magicka is your friend, Stam recovery is easy to get on nightblade. Bosmer mageblade, to hit harder from perma cloak and never worry about, do I have enough stam to cc break?

Hmm, did you mix up your stamblade and magblade picks?

@SecretJoy
My guess is they didnt. Some will argue to pick a race that boosts your weakness. Oh, you want to be a magic toon in cyro? Well your stam management will stink, so pick a race that boosts that. I think this is a weak argument however. It would have more merit if racial passives were flat values, but they arent. They are percentages. Therefore, it is better IMO to pick percentage based bonuses that buff your big stats not your small ones, as you get more out of them.

Or maybe he was trolling, or drunk, or both. haha.

TheShadowScout

Aesanor wrote: »

Hi there,
I'm a new player and I'd like to start two different characters, a stamblade and a magblade. I know this question was asked a billion times, but I can't find a recent and satisfying answer, so.. Which race for stamina and which one for magicka?...

Personally I'd say, it depends.

How do you want to play your stamblade? Sneaky? Then bosmer might be good for you. Fighty? Then redguard or imperial can make decent choices...

Magblades, well, bretons make good mages, and might be better for magblades then altmer... though latter are all right as well.

Dunmer can do either, but excel at none of it. (they are much better for DKing, thanks to fire and stuff)

But in the end... go for whatever seems most fun for you!

Rungar

dunmer is the most versatile especially if you going to be a vampire

TheShadowScout

Rungar wrote: »

dunmer is the most versatile especially if you going to be a vampire

...and it IS quite true that vampire meshes incredibly well with magblade!

For a vampblade, dunmer would be great as it offsets much of your weakness. I still picked breton for my vampblade alt, since I thought it more cliché, rivenspire storyline and all that...

Aesanor

Ty for all the answers guys, you're amazing!