Keep crown crates in the game

ArtCommissions

However, please make all the rare contents available for purchase 2 months after each crown season at a higher price. Do not lock any content. Thank you.

Aliyavana

Hmm that title isn't going to make this thread go well, but I'd be satisfied if radiant apex mounts were buyable with gems

Horowonnoe

VaranisArano

Then why would anyone gamble? Out of the hope of getting something cheaper?

Anotherone773

No the radiant apex mounts are rewards for TAKING A RISK. No risk, no reward.

Aliyavana

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Aliyavana

Anotherone773 wrote: »

No the radiant apex mounts are rewards for TAKING A RISK. No risk, no reward.

Zos must love players like you who dump all their money for a CHANCE to get something they are not guaranteed to get after spending a small fortune on them. At least with crown gems you would accumulate gems to buy something, now radiant mounts are just exploiting people's desire to feel special.

AlienatedGoat

aliyavana wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

No the radiant apex mounts are rewards for TAKING A RISK. No risk, no reward.

Zos must love players like you who dump all their money for a CHANCE to get something they are not guaranteed to get after spending a small fortune on them. At least with crown gems you would accumulate gems to buy something, now radiant mounts are just exploiting people's desire to feel special.

Yup. RNG-only items sold for real cash are a cancer that is taking over gaming. The horror stories are enough proof, like the guy who spent 2k trying to get the plague horse.

Makes me want to personally burn that business model to the ground.

Anotherone773

aliyavana wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

No the radiant apex mounts are rewards for TAKING A RISK. No risk, no reward.

Zos must love players like you who dump all their money for a CHANCE to get something they are not guaranteed to get after spending a small fortune on them. At least with crown gems you would accumulate gems to buy something, now radiant mounts are just exploiting people's desire to feel special.

I spent $40, which by the way is a drop in the bucket for me and including plus crowns and the free ones got a total of 33 crates. On my 8th crate, i got the blonde zebra mount. On my 21st crate i got the storm steed. My goal was to get either a motif or enough gems to buy a motif.

I accomplished the latter so i stopped buying crates. I dont care about vanity items. They are pointless waste of money. I dont care if im riding on an uber rare mount or on sorrel horse as long as they provide the same movement stamina and carry benefits. The motifs serve the purpose of doing writs. I also got 12 xp scroll, 2 major xp scrolls, and 1 grand xp scroll which is a bonus. I will use them when i acquire enough master writs to make it worthwhile.

I also got pretty much every costume, most markings, and all the emotes. All things i could care less about. I am not a vane person and i dont care about vanity items especially in a video game. The $40 i spent i can make that in less than 30 minutes so its not a big deal and its far easier for me to make $40 in real life than it is to farm motifs for hours or the currency to purchase them provided those routes are available.

Just like in game, i still play the way i want, and i buy the motifs i need, sometimes i will farm a few for a change, but i dont grind them because its easier to make X gold and buy them , than to farm them.

Also, because i actually run a business, understand gambling, and have played games with chance crates before, i understand the concept quite well. Chance crates are a huge money maker because of vane people. Some people call that predatory, but its not. Predatory is when a business takes advantage of a persons misfortune such as airlines raising prices tenfold to evac residents of an area before a hurricane. THAT is predatory, if you blow all your money on chance crates and dont get what you want and cant pay your electric bill, that is your own stupidity at work and no one else is to blame but you. The same goes for "temptation" to spend all your money on crates. Have a little self control and responsibility in life.

Also, the self entitlement gig is getting old. " I want that therefore you should make it so i can have it" ...."But you can have it if you buy crates and win it." ...." But thats not fair, i dont want it that way, i want to just give you X amount, that i determine is fair, and you give it to me." Sorry thats not how life works, people just need to grow up and learn you dont get everything you want and you definitely dont get it under your conditions.

It is completely ridiculous the childish hissy fits people are having over not being able to afford radiant mounts. ITS JUST PIXELS. It serves no purpose.

Balamoor

As usual in honor of this post and PAWS I will purchase a 25 of the 15 count crown Crate pack.


I'll make sure to wave as I ride by on the latest radiant.

AlienatedGoat

Balamoor wrote: »

As usual in honor of this post and PAWS I will purchase a 25 of the 15 count crown Crate pack.


I'll make sure to wave as I ride by on the latest radiant.

That's only if you get it. It's less than 1% chance per crate. You will most likely not get whatever radiant it is you want, just like the plague horse guy.

ArtCommissions

What is the story of the plague horse guy?

AlienatedGoat

ArtCommissions wrote: »

What is the story of the plague horse guy?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/374682/the-tale-of-1000-crates-and-the-missing-plague-husk-horse/p1

LadyAstrum

Anotherone773 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

No the radiant apex mounts are rewards for TAKING A RISK. No risk, no reward.

Zos must love players like you who dump all their money for a CHANCE to get something they are not guaranteed to get after spending a small fortune on them. At least with crown gems you would accumulate gems to buy something, now radiant mounts are just exploiting people's desire to feel special.

It is completely ridiculous the childish hissy fits people are having over not being able to afford radiant mounts. ITS JUST PIXELS. It serves no purpose.

If it's just pixels why does it matter if radiant mounts are available for gems?

After seeing a video of some gorgeous GW2 mounts, in animations and the fluid movement of them, I think people in ESO are getting a raw deal. The radiant mounts are on par with GW2, yet GW2's are direct purchase. Plus, you can dye your mounts in that game. Just a shame I don't like GW2 enough to play anymore, but just seeing far more exciting mounts in that game makes me even less impressed, both with crown crates and with the mounts.

That said, I think it's a shame a small percentage of the community will get to use a radiant mount. All that extra effort on their aesthetics. I don't think asking for them to be purchaseable for gems is a big ask. If they were marked up at 2000 gems, that's still a hefty sum that people would have to buy a lot of crowns for in order to obtain them.

Ch4mpTW

ArtCommissions wrote: »

However, please make all the rare contents available for purchase 2 months after each crown season at a higher price. Do not lock any content. Thank you.

TelvanniWizard

ArtCommissions wrote: »

However, please make all the rare contents available for purchase 2 months after each crown season at a higher price. Do not lock any content. Thank you.

Higher price? Prices are already very high for cosmetic digital stuff.



Better to have completely removed the scam crates market model.

datgladiatah

found the gambling addict. you know in casinos they always put in an addiction hotline on their machines, maybe you should put one on this website? the crown store?

CompM4s

LadyAstrum wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

No the radiant apex mounts are rewards for TAKING A RISK. No risk, no reward.

Zos must love players like you who dump all their money for a CHANCE to get something they are not guaranteed to get after spending a small fortune on them. At least with crown gems you would accumulate gems to buy something, now radiant mounts are just exploiting people's desire to feel special.

It is completely ridiculous the childish hissy fits people are having over not being able to afford radiant mounts. ITS JUST PIXELS. It serves no purpose.

If it's just pixels why does it matter if radiant mounts are available for gems?

After seeing a video of some gorgeous GW2 mounts, in animations and the fluid movement of them, I think people in ESO are getting a raw deal. The radiant mounts are on par with GW2, yet GW2's are direct purchase. Plus, you can dye your mounts in that game. Just a shame I don't like GW2 enough to play anymore, but just seeing far more exciting mounts in that game makes me even less impressed, both with crown crates and with the mounts.

That said, I think it's a shame a small percentage of the community will get to use a radiant mount. All that extra effort on their aesthetics. I don't think asking for them to be purchaseable for gems is a big ask. If they were marked up at 2000 gems, that's still a hefty sum that people would have to buy a lot of crowns for in order to obtain them.

The amount of crowns they would normally charge for a mount is high as is. Mounts are purely cosmetic and it is pretty shady that they have to go a step further and make it only a chance at getting one through crown crates. It does prey on the people that have gambling issues weather they know it or not. It is also exposing players that are not old enough to go to a casino to gambling. Which later could possibly cause problems for zos.

Ankael07

LadyAstrum wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

No the radiant apex mounts are rewards for TAKING A RISK. No risk, no reward.

Zos must love players like you who dump all their money for a CHANCE to get something they are not guaranteed to get after spending a small fortune on them. At least with crown gems you would accumulate gems to buy something, now radiant mounts are just exploiting people's desire to feel special.

It is completely ridiculous the childish hissy fits people are having over not being able to afford radiant mounts. ITS JUST PIXELS. It serves no purpose.

If it's just pixels why does it matter if radiant mounts are available for gems?

After seeing a video of some gorgeous GW2 mounts, in animations and the fluid movement of them, I think people in ESO are getting a raw deal. The radiant mounts are on par with GW2, yet GW2's are direct purchase. Plus, you can dye your mounts in that game. Just a shame I don't like GW2 enough to play anymore, but just seeing far more exciting mounts in that game makes me even less impressed, both with crown crates and with the mounts.

That said, I think it's a shame a small percentage of the community will get to use a radiant mount. All that extra effort on their aesthetics. I don't think asking for them to be purchasable for gems is a big ask. If they were marked up at 2000 gems, that's still a hefty sum that people would have to buy a lot of crowns for in order to obtain them.

That depends on your perception of ''on par''. I prefer less flashy animations and more intricately detailed mounts like Witch's Knight Charger or Fang Lair Coursier

Turelus

The undermines the point of the crates though. These items need to appear to not be available any other way in order to drive people to buy more of them.

LadyAstrum

CompM4s wrote: »

LadyAstrum wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

No the radiant apex mounts are rewards for TAKING A RISK. No risk, no reward.

Zos must love players like you who dump all their money for a CHANCE to get something they are not guaranteed to get after spending a small fortune on them. At least with crown gems you would accumulate gems to buy something, now radiant mounts are just exploiting people's desire to feel special.

It is completely ridiculous the childish hissy fits people are having over not being able to afford radiant mounts. ITS JUST PIXELS. It serves no purpose.

If it's just pixels why does it matter if radiant mounts are available for gems?

After seeing a video of some gorgeous GW2 mounts, in animations and the fluid movement of them, I think people in ESO are getting a raw deal. The radiant mounts are on par with GW2, yet GW2's are direct purchase. Plus, you can dye your mounts in that game. Just a shame I don't like GW2 enough to play anymore, but just seeing far more exciting mounts in that game makes me even less impressed, both with crown crates and with the mounts.

That said, I think it's a shame a small percentage of the community will get to use a radiant mount. All that extra effort on their aesthetics. I don't think asking for them to be purchaseable for gems is a big ask. If they were marked up at 2000 gems, that's still a hefty sum that people would have to buy a lot of crowns for in order to obtain them.

The amount of crowns they would normally charge for a mount is high as is. Mounts are purely cosmetic and it is pretty shady that they have to go a step further and make it only a chance at getting one through crown crates. It does prey on the people that have gambling issues weather they know it or not. It is also exposing players that are not old enough to go to a casino to gambling. Which later could possibly cause problems for zos.

Ankael07 wrote: »

LadyAstrum wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

No the radiant apex mounts are rewards for TAKING A RISK. No risk, no reward.

Zos must love players like you who dump all their money for a CHANCE to get something they are not guaranteed to get after spending a small fortune on them. At least with crown gems you would accumulate gems to buy something, now radiant mounts are just exploiting people's desire to feel special.

It is completely ridiculous the childish hissy fits people are having over not being able to afford radiant mounts. ITS JUST PIXELS. It serves no purpose.

If it's just pixels why does it matter if radiant mounts are available for gems?

After seeing a video of some gorgeous GW2 mounts, in animations and the fluid movement of them, I think people in ESO are getting a raw deal. The radiant mounts are on par with GW2, yet GW2's are direct purchase. Plus, you can dye your mounts in that game. Just a shame I don't like GW2 enough to play anymore, but just seeing far more exciting mounts in that game makes me even less impressed, both with crown crates and with the mounts.

That said, I think it's a shame a small percentage of the community will get to use a radiant mount. All that extra effort on their aesthetics. I don't think asking for them to be purchasable for gems is a big ask. If they were marked up at 2000 gems, that's still a hefty sum that people would have to buy a lot of crowns for in order to obtain them.

That depends on your perception of ''on par''. I prefer less flashy animations and more intricately detailed mounts like Witch's Knight Charger or Fang Lair Coursier

The animations aren't flashy per se, they just have really nice, fluid motion. I also like detailed, less flashy mounts, but there's still room for improvement.

The crate mounts are clearly popular though, because some people want something more outstanding.

@CompM4s I completely agree. I'd prefer limited-time direct purchases over crates, but a compromise is better than the current set-up.

AlienatedGoat

Turelus wrote: »

The undermines the point of the crates though. These items need to appear to not be available any other way in order to drive people to buy more of them.

Path of Exile runs their lootboxes and then 3 months later puts the items up for direct purchase. They don't seem to have a shortage of sales.

Just sayin, the model for delayed direct purchasing seems to work.

Turelus

Phage wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The undermines the point of the crates though. These items need to appear to not be available any other way in order to drive people to buy more of them.

Path of Exile runs their lootboxes and then 3 months later puts the items up for direct purchase. They don't seem to have a shortage of sales.

Just sayin, the model for delayed direct purchasing seems to work.

Interesting, I stand corrected.

Would it work here though with how cynical and bitter we are? I guess it depends on the prices of the items afterwards as well.

WakeYourGhost

Anotherone773 wrote: »

No the radiant apex mounts are rewards for TAKING A RISK. No risk, no reward.

VaranisArano wrote: »

Then why would anyone gamble? Out of the hope of getting something cheaper?

Risk for getting something cheaper and/or with a lot of extra stuff.

Even if it goes on Sale later, people will still try to win it because that is fun to some people - And some people want to have it sooner.

LadyAstrum

Phage wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The undermines the point of the crates though. These items need to appear to not be available any other way in order to drive people to buy more of them.

Path of Exile runs their lootboxes and then 3 months later puts the items up for direct purchase. They don't seem to have a shortage of sales.

Just sayin, the model for delayed direct purchasing seems to work.

I'd support this. I'd wait for the direct purchase myself. I really don't like the gambling aspect of these crates at all. Mainly because they seem strongly stacked against the player.

zyk

It's amazing to me how much PC gaming has changed.

We have players who are outraged when content is locked behind skill barriers, yet they think it's fine to lock content behind exorbitant pricing, scratch cards and arbitrary availability to create exclusivity.

The competition in the game is being whittled down to the lowest common detonator. Dollars and a complete lack of sense.

DieAlteHexe

Phage wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The undermines the point of the crates though. These items need to appear to not be available any other way in order to drive people to buy more of them.

Path of Exile runs their lootboxes and then 3 months later puts the items up for direct purchase. They don't seem to have a shortage of sales.

Just sayin, the model for delayed direct purchasing seems to work.

I like this as well. The "über" (as in "I got it first" crowd) can be über for a couple months and then the rest of the folks can purchase exactly what they want.

Yes, I do like this.

Aesthier

Turelus wrote: »

The undermines the point of the crates though. These items need to appear to not be available any other way in order to drive people to buy more of them.

Or they could just fix more of the game and put more rewards to those who subscribe.

^ Just another option to generate consistent cash flow.