Instead of a unified auction house...

Knowledge

We should have a unified search function for all guild stores. This integrated search function would allow you to view recent sales, recent listings, and suggest a price for your item based on sales and listings. This system would still require you to travel to the guild vendors to purchase what you want. It would in no way change the guild store function or the bidding process.

Implementing a system like this will prevent exploitation of the ill-informed, increase profits, and benefit the economy. It would also alleviate the need for certain add-ons allowing the game to run smoother for some end-users who have issues running and maintaining multiple add-ons.

Knowledge

I'd also like to add that this would help console players tremendously who don't have access to said add-ons.

KiraTsukasa

So a middle ground that still allows guilds to extort people who just want to sell a few items?

Yeah, no.

Knowledge

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

So a middle ground that still allows guilds to extort people who just want to sell a few items?

Yeah, no.

I don't think you know what extortion is.

Slick_007

wait, is this separate to your other auction house thread? its basically the same idea.

Judas Helviaryn

He's spamming threads like one other unmentionable player did a few weeks ago. Quantity does not equal quality.

FleetwoodSmack

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

He's spamming threads like one other unmentionable player did a few weeks ago. Quantity does not equal quality.

Only thing that makes sense is if he's trying to get his post count up.

Kikke

First post you've made @Knowledge that I can actually agree on, congratulation! ++

Runefang

Your discussion to comment ratio is absurd.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Runefang wrote: »

Your discussion to comment ratio is absurd.

Is that a thing? And how do I know when it is bad?

JWKe

I agree with you. Like with Runescape prior to a unified auction house, Banks (sell locations) often were bustling little hubs where many players huddled together to sell their goods. After, the release of a Unified auction house however all players just huddle around the auction house taking "live" and vibrancy away from the lesser visited cities. I see the same for this game if they were to go ahead with the unified auction house.

Certainly, with the release of a unified auction house in runescape it did lower the occurrence of scams quite significantly however i think at the cost of a reason to visit a lesser populated city.

Iselin

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Runefang wrote: »

Your discussion to comment ratio is absurd.

Is that a thing? And how do I know when it is bad?

Talking at vs. talking with... it's a thing.

AlienatedGoat

I made an idea about this a long time ago:

Basically there would be a special bulletin board in each zone capitol, next to the guild traders. That board would let you search all the traders in that zone. You can't purchase from the board, only search.

The main reason its a per-zone search is that ZOS intended for the player economy to be fragmented. They've said before that they don't want any universalization or unification of the player economy.

Honestly, this would work tons better if the search UI was made to be more robust. The way it is now, base UI searches just suck and any benefit of having a zone-search option would basically be nullified by having to scroll page-by-page to find something.

Cpt_Teemo

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

So a middle ground that still allows guilds to extort people who just want to sell a few items?

Yeah, no.

Extort to have a search option like Swg ? It's a free for all whoever gets to that vendor first, atleast it'll provide instant information where things are listed so people don't need to spend 5 hours hopping around and some can barely play 2 hours a day

idk

Knowledge wrote: »

We should have

When someone in these forums states "we should have" it seems they are really stating "I want". We find no exception here.

knaveofengland

sorry to use same one agin but its good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJbmB9k2Y88

Emma_Overload

This is a great idea.. almost as if I thought of it myself

Turelus

I've long said the current system is fine with the biggest barriers being the UI and the ability to search for what you want.

PC has add-ons / website which overcome these issues but they shouldn't be issues we need add-ons to deal with. I don't want to see the entire guild trader system go away for a typical AH style system as I enjoy that we have guilds build entirely to dominate markets and it allows for a trading profession.

The only system I would be happy replacing this would be a regional (zone) market but I feel with wayshrines it won't have the same effect as in other games where travel takes actual time investments.

RobDaCool

I just want to be able to search for an item at each vendor.

When I first started playing ESO I would have loved a unified auction house, but now that I've gotten used to the traders and know the locations of the "best" ones I am happy, for the most part

Skwor

NO, the merchant system as it is works really well. There are always ways to improve but your idea is not one of them.

In truth the biggest improvement to trading would be to stop TTC, that add on and website has become poison to the game in terms of abuse.

Darkstorne

Skwor wrote: »

NO, the merchant system as it is works really well. There are always ways to improve but your idea is not one of them.

In truth the biggest improvement to trading would be to stop TTC, that add on and website has become poison to the game in terms of abuse.

Care to elaborate? As a more casual player, I adore TTC for finding out what's available, where it is, and what price I should be selling my mats at. Before I used the addon I was so frustrated with not knowing where to look for items or what a fair price should be that I literally never bought or sold anything at guild vendors. It's not that I dislike the guild vendor system, just that I dislike how difficult it makes life for casual players who want to shop around for a quick gear upgrade or sell off some of their gold mats.

sho_nuff

Skwor wrote: »

NO, the merchant system as it is works really well. There are always ways to improve but your idea is not one of them.

In truth the biggest improvement to trading would be to stop TTC, that add on and website has become poison to the game in terms of abuse.

Except it doesn't. Few go to non-major traders because they're inefficient and out of the way. Because of that, they're usually virtually empty, creating a vicious cycle.

With the current system and interface, shopping is a chore.

NewBlacksmurf

No I disagree as this is getting at an auction house request.

I’d say an actual compromise (even tho it’s not because ZOS isn’t considering adding an auction house), was if there was a request to allow guilds to have 2500+ members vs a max of 500.

Hluill

Yay! Another thread where we all continue to spout the same generalizations!

"AHs suck and don't work!"

"Guild Traders are a pain and don't work!"

I personally think the Guild Trader system is inefficient and exclusive. I definitely enjoy the convenience and better interfaces of other MMOs' Auction Houses.

I made my peace with the ESO's *** system by
a) not taking part in the player economy
b) using https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade/Search when i actually want to find something.

It's a shame the player economy is so poorly done that this is necessary.

Marabornwingrion

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

He's spamming threads like one other unmentionable player did a few weeks ago. Quantity does not equal quality.

cough dr eso cough

Skwor

Darkstorne wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

NO, the merchant system as it is works really well. There are always ways to improve but your idea is not one of them.

In truth the biggest improvement to trading would be to stop TTC, that add on and website has become poison to the game in terms of abuse.

Care to elaborate? As a more casual player, I adore TTC for finding out what's available, where it is, and what price I should be selling my mats at. Before I used the addon I was so frustrated with not knowing where to look for items or what a fair price should be that I literally never bought or sold anything at guild vendors. It's not that I dislike the guild vendor system, just that I dislike how difficult it makes life for casual players who want to shop around for a quick gear upgrade or sell off some of their gold mats.

TTC is heavily manipulated now by several guilds to price spike both high and low many items. (The following is my opinion based on some observations) Also the data of TTC is used by several with access earlier than the normal user to buy the lowballed items before you will ever get to them. By the time you see the info updated those items are already gone.

Cpt_Teemo

knaveofengland wrote: »

sorry to use same one agin but its good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJbmB9k2Y88

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnmoEHLXrOw

sho_nuff

Hluill wrote: »

Yay! Another thread where we all continue to spout the same generalizations!

"AHs suck and don't work!"

"Guild Traders are a pain and don't work!"

I personally think the Guild Trader system is inefficient and exclusive. I definitely enjoy the convenience and better interfaces of other MMOs' Auction Houses.

I made my peace with the ESO's *** system by
a) not taking part in the player economy
b) using https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade/Search when i actually want to find something.

It's a shame the player economy is so poorly done that this is necessary.

I was your A for about a year and a half, and I still don't sell. As for your B, unfortunately it's not on console.

That's why I'd love a global search, and the ability to filter known recipes.

AlnilamE

It takes the game five minutes to iterate through all guild traders at switch to determine who won the bids.

Let's just imagine how long it would take to actually search through all the items from all the traders to see who has what and list the information.

In the meantime, people who just go around and search will have bought them up.

Turelus

Skwor wrote: »

NO, the merchant system as it is works really well. There are always ways to improve but your idea is not one of them.

In truth the biggest improvement to trading would be to stop TTC, that add on and website has become poison to the game in terms of abuse.

Those add-ons are also making the entire system useable.

AlnilamE wrote: »

It takes the game five minutes to iterate through all guild traders at switch to determine who won the bids.

Let's just imagine how long it would take to actually search through all the items from all the traders to see who has what and list the information.

In the meantime, people who just go around and search will have bought them up.

Seems fair enough.

Those who put in the leg work get the opportunities, those who don't have to hope they're not too late.

sho_nuff

AlnilamE wrote: »

It takes the game five minutes to iterate through all guild traders at switch to determine who won the bids.

Let's just imagine how long it would take to actually search through all the items from all the traders to see who has what and list the information.

In the meantime, people who just go around and search will have bought them up.

That might be true for Wayrest, but that guy hanging out in the middle of Coldharbour? Personally, I'm not looking to find the best deal necessarily, but general availability.

The global search wouldn't even have to be real time. Refreshing off of a list that updated every so often would speed up search times, I'd imagine.