Can’t knock players off ledges anymore. Dizzying Swing and Flame Reach Bugged.

Koolio

With the change to the knockdown and keep grates being changes this hasn’t been working right. It seems like the same change was made for ALL surfaces and not just the grates.

In Tempest island it was always fun to wrecking blow the add right next to the last boss. Now it can’t be done. The adds and players start this slow fall animation when they should have been knocked off.

Anyone else notice this?


https://youtu.be/AhFMrjxIG0Q

Savos_Saren

+1 I thought I've noticed that it's harder to knock people off ledges in PVP. I could be mistaken, though. I've leapt at a few people on the tops of keeps and bridges. IIRC, only one has actually fallen lately... maybe he was on the razor's edge of the ledge at Seg?

Ragnarock41

so, another nerf to fun? Color me suprised.

ofSunhold

No problems doing it with javelin.

DKsUnite

my leaps on the bridge stairs have been fine with sending people to the gravity world boss

Sixty5

No more letting the gravity do all the worksies

f047ys3v3n

Oh, you can get knocked off just fine, you just can't get knocked through. I got launched from the middle of the grate over the side by a dragon leap yesterday.

Gilvoth

Koolio wrote: »

With the change to the knockdown and keep grates being changes this hasn’t been working right. It seems like the same change was made for ALL surfaces and not just the grates.

In Tempest island it was always fun to wrecking blow the add right next to the last boss. Now it can’t be done. The adds and players start this slow fall animation when they should have been knocked off.

Anyone else notice this?

that is a GOOD thing, Not a Bad thing.
im glad they did this.

Datthaw

Trolling people on the grates was one of my favorite things to do in this game. I even managed to save dragon claw once by myself vs a group by doing it.

Zos doesn't like fun.

Leandor

Yes. It makes clench in BGs borderline useless. Do not like.

Koolio

ofSunhold wrote: »

No problems doing it with javelin.

I haven’t seen any issues with javelin. Mainly Dizzying Swing and Flame reach.

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

With the change to the knockdown and keep grates being changes this hasn’t been working right. It seems like the same change was made for ALL surfaces and not just the grates.

In Tempest island it was always fun to wrecking blow the add right next to the last boss. Now it can’t be done. The adds and players start this slow fall animation when they should have been knocked off.

Anyone else notice this?

that is a GOOD thing, Not a Bad thing.
im glad they did this.

Not when it was fun In PvE. I can understand the grates that’s fine. But Every Area in the game it sucks. I will post a video so you can see.

Datthaw wrote: »

Trolling people on the grates was one of my favorite things to do in this game. I even managed to save dragon claw once by myself vs a group by doing it.

Zos doesn't like fun.

It’s not about the grates. I can’t even knock someone off the edge of a keep. Like I have been doing for 3 years.

Nelson_Rebel

I've had no issues whatsoever knocking people who are LEGITIMATELY at the actual Edge of a surface cliff


The only thing that doesn't work anymore is knocking people THROUGH surfaces they clearly shouldn't be falling through.

I don't care if you are a wood elf height, you are never falling through a surface the size of a footstep on grates. It was a Bug Fix that can no longer be exploited. The only people who found it fun, were people who enjoyed exploiting something that clearly defied physics of a body not fitting through an area the size of a shoe.

VaranisArano

I can't tell you how many times I've wished this game had the ability to FUS RO DAH someone over an edge...

Koolio

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

I've had no issues whatsoever knocking people who are LEGITIMATELY at the actual Edge of a surface cliff


The only thing that doesn't work anymore is knocking people THROUGH surfaces they clearly shouldn't be falling through.

I don't care if you are a wood elf height, you are never falling through a surface the size of a footstep on grates. It was a Bug Fix that can no longer be exploited. The only people who found it fun, were people who enjoyed exploiting something that clearly defied physics of a body not fitting through an area the size of a shoe.

I’ll have to put a video up. No grate slow fall that should have knocked them off but didn’t.

I agree with no grate falling but this happens in other places.

Koolio

Here is the video.

Flame Reach and Dizzing Swing are bugged. Not draining shot not javelin.

All of these moves are knock backs.

https://youtu.be/AhFMrjxIG0Q


@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Koolio

This also causes break free issues when you are “Floating”

Maryal

Let's see this done from a height where this 'slow fall' prevents the victim's death. In other words, if you weren't knocked off, but simply jumped off, the fall resulted in your death or a loss of most of your health (meaning the 'slow fall' prevents this damage). Seeing someone slow fall from a height that wouldn't do any damage anyway (or a negligible amount of damage) is underwhelming and can hardly be called a bug, maybe an annoyance, but a bug that effects gameplay? meh.

Koolio

Maryal wrote: »

Let's see this done from a height where this 'slow fall' prevents the victim's death. In other words, if you weren't knocked off, but simply jumped off, the fall resulted in your death or a loss of most of your health (meaning the 'slow fall' prevents this damage). Seeing someone slow fall from a height that wouldn't do any damage anyway (or a negligible amount of damage) is underwhelming and can hardly be called a bug, maybe an annoyance, but a bug that effects gameplay? meh.

Until you pvp. Then the damage they take is better than nothing. Anytime someone stands near an edge a Templar or any character with draining shot can knock them off but not Flame Reach or wrecking blow. Those have always knocked people off. Now I can’t do that anymore.

Fun Nerfed again.

Maryal

Koolio wrote: »

Maryal wrote: »

Let's see this done from a height where this 'slow fall' prevents the victim's death. In other words, if you weren't knocked off, but simply jumped off, the fall resulted in your death or a loss of most of your health (meaning the 'slow fall' prevents this damage). Seeing someone slow fall from a height that wouldn't do any damage anyway (or a negligible amount of damage) is underwhelming and can hardly be called a bug, maybe an annoyance, but a bug that effects gameplay? meh.

Until you pvp. Then the damage they take is better than nothing. Anytime someone stands near an edge a Templar or any character with draining shot can knock them off but not Flame Reach or wrecking blow. Those have always knocked people off. Now I can’t do that anymore.

Fun Nerfed again.

I see. They do get knocked down but they don't get knocked back when standing on the edge of a ledge (that has no grate), however, if they are standing at the top of the stairs (the edge of the upper stair) they do get knocked back (and then knocked down at the bottom of the stairs). Yea, it should work the same way at both places.

Koolio

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can you take a look at this please.

Lexxypwns

No issues with reach in cyrodiil or BGs for me

Edit: knocked lots of people into lava and off bridges in BGs

Koolio

Lexxypwns wrote: »

No issues with reach in cyrodiil or BGs for me

It seems to be on certain ledges that it won’t work. Mainly interior of keeps on the sides and edges. Occasionally on the ledge of the bridge as well.

Almost any of the extended standing points.

Koolio

Is this intended?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Waffennacht

Encountered this issue (well I was the one being hit) it was at that University BG, I did not go over the ledge

However leap did knock me off a ledge in that new windy snowy map

OneKhajiitCrimeWave

In my guilds we used to refer to the grates as the "noob filter" as you could tell people who weren't experienced in PvP because they'd stand on it and get knocked through.

I like that they fixed it but i wonder if there's truth to making people float rather than fall in Cyrodiil.

Koolio

Since your on a roll this morning

@ZOS_GinaBruno is this right?

Koolio

Any notes on this I didn’t see any

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Minalan

This needs to be fixed. The hilarity of knocking someone sideways off of a keep ledge is enough to complain about this.

Please keep the game fun!

Sarjako

I've noticed the same problem with flame reach.

Nelson_Rebel

OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »

In my guilds we used to refer to the grates as the "noob filter" as you could tell people who weren't experienced in PvP because they'd stand on it and get knocked through.

I like that they fixed it but i wonder if there's truth to making people float rather than fall in Cyrodiil.

Well seeing as not a single grate actually had enough Area space to fit a body through, they are never floating


Its called landing on a physical surface and not apparently being a ghost going through solid metal

Koolio

Sarjako wrote: »

I've noticed the same problem with flame reach.

With the given track record of 4 of 4 bug fixes from ones I reported with video you can assume this will get mentioned in 2-3 months. Then 3-4 months of “testing” for a fix. Then 6 months after that they will fix.

Give or take 1 year till completely addressed.