NB Incapacitating Strike

regime211

Why for the love of god!! Every time I try to dodge roll through this ultimate it never works? Let alone the 4.5 stun. Can you explain this???

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Lynx7386

I'm pretty sure direct damage instant melee attacks cant be dodged, but maybe i'm wrong and this is just an exception to the rules.

Waffennacht

You gotta pre-amble it. Like before they do the launch up (you know what I mean!) animation, it's more instincts than not

Ramber

Try fortified brass as one of your sets and you will survive it at that point the NB will be at your mercy and will turn tail and run... and run... and run... seriously. Nbs and their macros are hilarious when they cant kill you in 1 move, they just stand there not knowing what to do

lucky_Sage

you can dodge just have to hit it at right time which is hard with lag and fps drops.
but really it shouldn't cc for all the debuffs it gives you. but there are counters like block or shield stacking

Koensol

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure direct damage instant melee attacks cant be dodged, but maybe i'm wrong and this is just an exception to the rules.

Lol. Of course it can be dodged. Just gotta be in time.

DDemon

People always seem to be able to dodge my incap. o.0

Sixty5

It's like hitting a moving target, you have to aim where it is going to be rather than where it is.

Dodge before they incap, rather than after the animation starts.

How do you know to dodge before the Incap? Well if a stamblade is next to you and they haven't hit you with anh incap in the last 10 seconds, they are about to incap you.

Izaki

Ramber wrote: »

Try fortified brass as one of your sets and you will survive it at that point the NB will be at your mercy and will turn tail and run... and run... and run... seriously. Nbs and their macros are hilarious when they cant kill you in 1 move, they just stand there not knowing what to do

^ This guy clearly has no clue as to what a macro is.

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

incap is just the most broken ulti in the game. 70 ultimate is a JOKE

Izaki

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

incap is just the most broken ulti in the game. 70 ultimate is a JOKE

So by that logic Crescent Sweep is also the most broken ulti in the game. 72 ultimate.

lucky_Sage

Izaki wrote: »

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

incap is just the most broken ulti in the game. 70 ultimate is a JOKE

So by that logic Crescent Sweep is also the most broken ulti in the game. 72 ultimate.

that ult cant do 10k+ to players and give major defile and increase dmg to target from caster and stun which I just think the stun should be removed

BohnT

Izaki wrote: »

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

incap is just the most broken ulti in the game. 70 ultimate is a JOKE

So by that logic Crescent Sweep is also the most broken ulti in the game. 72 ultimate.

His argument is wrong but he's right on the topic

Qbiken

Can anyone fill me in on how incap used to work with its stun? It had something to do with your HP % compared to your enemies HP %, but I can´t recall exactly what it was....

BohnT

Qbiken wrote: »

Can anyone fill me in on how incap used to work with its stun? It had something to do with your HP % compared to your enemies HP %, but I can´t recall exactly what it was....

If your health was lower than your opponents it would stun them.

Minno

lucky_Sage wrote: »

Izaki wrote: »

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

incap is just the most broken ulti in the game. 70 ultimate is a JOKE

So by that logic Crescent Sweep is also the most broken ulti in the game. 72 ultimate.

that ult cant do 10k+ to players and give major defile and increase dmg to target from caster and stun which I just think the stun should be removed

The stun should go to empowering sweeps since it doesn't have the dmg/debuffs that incap has.
And mostly because nightblades have an unblocked stun now, magplars do not.

NyassaV

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure direct damage instant melee attacks cant be dodged, but maybe i'm wrong and this is just an exception to the rules.

LOL. They can it's a L2P problem

NyassaV

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

incap is just the most broken ulti in the game. 70 ultimate is a JOKE

Biased comment is biased

The cost isn't the issue. It's the stun. In the time it takes to break they and roll away they can often land another hit on you. If the stun wasn't so annoying and buggy you'd be able to roll away and avoid the insta death

Vapirko

Its actually really easily blocked. The sound queue gives it away very easily and you can pretty much expect it regularly. Only a good NB will make sure youre CC'd before using it. Although lately there has been a ton of lag associated with it and some weird stuff happens. Imo part of what makes NBs strong is the lag associated with fear and incap.

LeagueTroll

Izaki wrote: »

Ramber wrote: »

Try fortified brass as one of your sets and you will survive it at that point the NB will be at your mercy and will turn tail and run... and run... and run... seriously. Nbs and their macros are hilarious when they cant kill you in 1 move, they just stand there not knowing what to do

^ This guy clearly has no clue as to what a macro is.

Oh you are wrong man, he does. It is custom keybind, 1 button = fire off bunch skill plus light and heavy attacks in sequence.

Aztlan

Incap is fine. Nothing to see here, folks.

Gilvoth

DDemon wrote: »

People always seem to be able to dodge my incap. o.0

exactly.

lucky_Sage

Minno wrote: »

lucky_Sage wrote: »

Izaki wrote: »

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

incap is just the most broken ulti in the game. 70 ultimate is a JOKE

So by that logic Crescent Sweep is also the most broken ulti in the game. 72 ultimate.

that ult cant do 10k+ to players and give major defile and increase dmg to target from caster and stun which I just think the stun should be removed

The stun should go to empowering sweeps since it doesn't have the dmg/debuffs that incap has.
And mostly because nightblades have an unblocked stun now, magplars do not.

id be fine wiith that honestly it might make a stamplars use a class ult not just dawnbreaker

regime211

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can we get this ultimate skill redefined? I don't believe the it should allow the player to be stunned with all the other debuff, either that can we raise the ultimate cost?

sly007

lucky_Sage wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

lucky_Sage wrote: »

Izaki wrote: »

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

incap is just the most broken ulti in the game. 70 ultimate is a JOKE

So by that logic Crescent Sweep is also the most broken ulti in the game. 72 ultimate.

that ult cant do 10k+ to players and give major defile and increase dmg to target from caster and stun which I just think the stun should be removed

The stun should go to empowering sweeps since it doesn't have the dmg/debuffs that incap has.
And mostly because nightblades have an unblocked stun now, magplars do not.

id be fine wiith that honestly it might make a stamplars use a class ult not just dawnbreaker

At least they have the option. What about stamina sorcerors?

I think incapacitating strike should have the defile removed or changed to minor defile by 8% reduced healing recieved instead of the nonsensical 15%. Also, they need to remove all major defile debuffs from spammable abilities and placed on armor sets and ultimates costing 100 or more ultimates, reducing healing recieved by 25%

exeeter702

Koensol wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure direct damage instant melee attacks cant be dodged, but maybe i'm wrong and this is just an exception to the rules.

Lol. Of course it can be dodged. Just gotta be in time.

You cant react dodge roll it since its instant cast melee. You have to have a read on them and dodge before they fire it off.

The op framed his comment in a way that suggests they are trying to dodge it after they see it.

Savos_Saren

lucky_Sage wrote: »

Izaki wrote: »

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

incap is just the most broken ulti in the game. 70 ultimate is a JOKE

So by that logic Crescent Sweep is also the most broken ulti in the game. 72 ultimate.

that ult cant do 10k+ to players and give major defile and increase dmg to target from caster and stun which I just think the stun should be removed

Yeah... Incap Strike is absolutely devastating to an mDK. My heals rely on my damage and when a NB is dodging all my Embers and Whips- I'm just screwed. Of course, I can't run away, either... because my form of Major Expedition is on a gap closer....

...So, I guess I just have to gap close to the NB in order to get the speed to run?

I've also noticed that when a NB tries to gank me- if I immediately start hitting Volatile Armor (to pull them out of cloak)- they still manage to avoid being uncloaked. Weird...