Want A New VMA

MilwaukeeScott

We're at 720 cp. Most of us farm vma in our sleep. Some of us are even using a broom and bucket!

It's time for a new more difficult single player Trial.

Maybe we could even get some useful weapons besides a bow.

It is time!

VaranisArano

I'm a CP 720 who's still working on my first clear of VMA. Its a great challenge.

Castiel_Silvermist

Yes

VaranisArano wrote: »

I'm a CP 720 who's still working on my first clear of VMA. Its a great challenge.

Thank you! I'm still working on the same thing. Its bloody hard. OP if you want a challenge, try soloing a few of the harder dungeons lol.

pieratsos

Yes

Castiel_Silvermist wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

I'm a CP 720 who's still working on my first clear of VMA. Its a great challenge.

Thank you! I'm still working on the same thing. Its bloody hard. OP if you want a challenge, try soloing a few of the harder dungeons lol.

You do realise that introducing new content doesnt mean that they will take vMA away right? Feel free to keep trying till you complete it. No one is stopping you. Other people want something new.

SpiderCultist

Other

2vE

Nighn_9

Yes

Yes, but not yet. We need another Dragonstar Arena first

Ch4mpTW

Yes

I’m all for not single-player content, as it appears that’s the way most people treat this game anyway. But, as difficult as VMA? I’m not too sure about. You need to consider that the average player of ESO still has yet to acquire their Stormproof title. Let alone Flawless Conqueror. And a lot of people who do have said clears under their belt, got them from others doing the content for them. Either through Share Play (PS4 player here), or from straight-up account sharing.

Also in regards to VMA’s difficulty we need to look at what it is that actually makes the content difficult. Which is often times than not, the things outside of our control. If VMA wasn’t so filled with: Bugs, lag, false animations, etc., I truly believe that there would be more clears of it. Plus, content like that should be heavily mechanics oriented. Not DPS races. DPS is only 1 of 3 roles. So what about the healers? What about the tanks? I’m sure they deserve a chance at amazing weapons. But unfortunately, they can’t have access to them. Unless of course they make a DPS (assuming they don’t have 1 already). And that in my opinion isn’t right. There should be a form of content that is made, that can test player’s skills; no matter what role they are/prefer.

Izaki

Yes

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I’m all for not single-player content, as it appears that’s the way most people treat this game anyway. But, as difficult as VMA? I’m not too sure about. You need to consider that the average player of ESO still has yet to acquire their Stormproof title. Let alone Flawless Conqueror. And a lot of people who do have said clears under their belt, got them from others doing the content for them. Either through Share Play (PS4 player here), or from straight-up account sharing.

Also in regards to VMA’s difficulty we need to look at what it is that actually makes the content difficult. Which is often times than not, the things outside of our control. If VMA wasn’t so filled with: Bugs, lag, false animations, etc., I truly believe that there would be more clears of it. Plus, content like that should be heavily mechanics oriented. Not DPS races. DPS is only 1 of 3 roles. So what about the healers? What about the tanks? I’m sure they deserve a chance at amazing weapons. But unfortunately, they can’t have access to them. Unless of course they make a DPS (assuming they don’t have 1 already). And that in my opinion isn’t right. There should be a form of content that is made, that can test player’s skills; no matter what role they are/prefer.

Lol

bitels

No

No. If I want to play single player RPG there are far better titles for this then ESO. When I play MMO, I want group content.

Dymence

Yes

I'd certainly love a new vMA type of solo trial. But at the same time I'm not sure if they'll ever make anything like it again.

There has been a lot of negative feedback about it in general, but perhaps the most important one is the fact that a lot of people don't like solo content. They play an MMO to play with other people, not to play solo trials.

As such I think the next smaller scale trial would more likely be a 2 player or 4 player arena.

Lynx7386

I can't even finish the vma we have and I've been playing since launch. I've already resigned to the fact that no matter what I do ill never get vma weapons.

So no, I would rather not have more mandatory items locked behind frustrating and poorly designed solo arenas.

Corpier

Other

I'd like to see another arena and another single player arena might be nice eventually, but this is an mmo. I'd like to see something like a new 2 man or another 4 man arena before we get more single player content.

peacenote

Other

I would like to see 2man content first. I wouldn't be against another vMA type event, though, as long as the first one isn't removed.

pteam

Yes

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I’m all for not single-player content, as it appears that’s the way most people treat this game anyway. But, as difficult as VMA? I’m not too sure about. You need to consider that the average player of ESO still has yet to acquire their Stormproof title. Let alone Flawless Conqueror. And a lot of people who do have said clears under their belt, got them from others doing the content for them. Either through Share Play (PS4 player here), or from straight-up account sharing.

Also in regards to VMA’s difficulty we need to look at what it is that actually makes the content difficult. Which is often times than not, the things outside of our control. If VMA wasn’t so filled with: Bugs, lag, false animations, etc., I truly believe that there would be more clears of it. Plus, content like that should be heavily mechanics oriented. Not DPS races. DPS is only 1 of 3 roles. So what about the healers? What about the tanks? I’m sure they deserve a chance at amazing weapons. But unfortunately, they can’t have access to them. Unless of course they make a DPS (assuming they don’t have 1 already). And that in my opinion isn’t right. There should be a form of content that is made, that can test player’s skills; no matter what role they are/prefer.

What your not realizing is when your in vma you are the tank, the dps, and the healer all at the time.

Asardes

Yes

The game needs more solo and 4 man arenas like vMA and vDSA respectively. And those should get a difficult mode setting just like trials for better/double rewards. Also I see no problem with "tanks" or "healers" clearing vMA. It's as simple as changing gear, mundus, and maybe a attribute points if you are fully invested in health. My Templar healer can change Atronach for Apprentice, SPC & Worm for IA and Julianos and hop right in vMA and clear it, and get on the leaderboard. Same with DK: change Atronach and pick Warrior, change Ebon & Torug and pick VO and Hunding, and Monday I pick the shiny from the mail box. It's as simple as that

Septimus_Magna

Yes

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I’m all for not single-player content, as it appears that’s the way most people treat this game anyway. But, as difficult as VMA? I’m not too sure about. You need to consider that the average player of ESO still has yet to acquire their Stormproof title. Let alone Flawless Conqueror. And a lot of people who do have said clears under their belt, got them from others doing the content for them. Either through Share Play (PS4 player here), or from straight-up account sharing.

Also in regards to VMA’s difficulty we need to look at what it is that actually makes the content difficult. Which is often times than not, the things outside of our control. If VMA wasn’t so filled with: Bugs, lag, false animations, etc., I truly believe that there would be more clears of it. Plus, content like that should be heavily mechanics oriented. Not DPS races. DPS is only 1 of 3 roles. So what about the healers? What about the tanks? I’m sure they deserve a chance at amazing weapons. But unfortunately, they can’t have access to them. Unless of course they make a DPS (assuming they don’t have 1 already). And that in my opinion isn’t right. There should be a form of content that is made, that can test player’s skills; no matter what role they are/prefer.

There are only two dps checks in vMA, on 5th and 8th round boss.
The crystal phase on the final boss is not a dps check because you can reset the timer by jumping/falling down.

Either way, if you do around 20k dps you'll be fine for vMA. Its mostly mechanics that ppl struggle with, some fights have a lot of things that you need to pay attention to.

I still dont understand why ppl expect to be able to run a support build in solo content where there’s nobody to support.

The most valid criticism on vMA imo is that its completely solo. I think it would be really cool if it was for two or three players. Something that teaches ppl to self-sustain and deal dmg while working together on the mechanics. This would also make it easier for less experienced players because they can get helped/carried by their friends. One of the things that makes vMA difficult for beginners is that you have to do all the mechanics by yourself so its easy to miss something.

New vMA? Yes
Preferably for 2-3 players

Joshua261

Other

I've had this discussion with a fair few people and we all agreed that we would like to see a 2 man trial be introduced.

leandro.800ub17_ESO

Other

2 man trial

Lukums1

Some of us run naked - vMA.

2 man trial hands down is the best thing they could do for this game.

antimawkish

Other

I voted Other thinking of 2-man content as well, glad to see I am far from alone in this thought! Having that second body could open up so many possibilities not only in terms of mechanics, but also what specs/role combos you bring to go at it.

Acharnor

Other

I am another 720 trying to make their way through that place. So many Arghh moments. But I have made it to Arena 7. Am currently tweaking my character's gear for another try - I hate those poison plants so much!!!!!

But, hey another solo challenge would be great too.

I have been and continue to be in awe of you conquerors.

PhantomOcelot

No

It would be great to have a 2 player MA\DSA style arena. Solo content in MMOs is just so boring.

Kanar

Yes

A trial that scales from 1 to 3 people. Seems like it would cover everyone's needs.

Merlin13KAGL

Other

Eventually.

They need some mid-tier trials first 4-6 man, perhaps even blending BG type scenarios in there, letting two (or more) teams race through the content at the same time, vice comparing leaderboard scores after the fact.

They could have aspects that could change, benefit, or hinder the other players.

Regarding vMA, I suspect if you've spent a fair amount of time in there, yes, you probably do have it on farm. I also expect more people haven't cleared than have, let alone have it on farm.

They need to add some training methods to help people improve, because Vet (anything) is still wrecking some people, and normal is still completely useless in getting better at your class/role.

disintegr8

Other

I'm well beyond CP cap and never been in vMA - what would I do with a new one?

Septimus_Magna

Yes

disintegr8 wrote: »

I'm well beyond CP cap and never been in vMA - what would I do with a new one?

Get good gear?

Asardes

Yes

You don't even need "BiS" gear to clear it. Back in the day there weren't any of the fancy sets we have now and top players had 300 CP. So they used 5 Hunding/Julianos 3 Agility/Willpower 2 Monster set and Master weapons or 3/4 NMG/Torug for stamina/magicka. Not to mention that for stamina Vigor was a huge grind back then, so many cleared with 2H and Rally as heal. And they still cleared it and even got flawless. It's just about having appropriate gear - meaning a set that's meant for stamina/magicka DPS, with the appropriate bonuses - have a rudimentary rotation and be able to keep buffs up, and learn the mechanics - there are hundreds of guides for every build/class online 2.5 years after release.

My own story: I only started the arena very late in my game since I played as tank from the beginning, but when I decided to develop DDs as well I realized that I needed Maelstrom weapons to be competitive. So I set out to clear it first on my Stamina DK in his PvP setup - 5 Bone Pirate 5 Hunding's Rage 1 Molag Kena, 2H/Bow, 1L/5M/1H, Warrior mundus, Dubious Camoran Throne - with only a few skills changed (ex. Brawler instead of Critical Rush). I was able to progress to the last boss in about 7 hours, out of which 3 were wasted in the 6th arena because a guild mate gave me the "helpful" advice to "ignore mechanics man, just nuke everything" so I got insta-gibbed by the spider for 40K right in execute phase because I didn't stun her, about 20 times in a row. Then I decided to screw that advice play by the mechanics, stunned her and, and cleared that stage in the first try. By the time I reached the last boss I was so tired I couldn't concentrate, and I was so pissed by the dozens of deaths I had in the previous stages I reset the whole arena by deleting the quest because it felt lame to use a saved game and not finish in one go. I went next day on my Magicka Sorcerer and cleared it in a couple of hours, with about an hour spent learning the crystal timing, because I had already learned the mechanics from the previous arenas pretty well by then; score was ~360K. A few days later I went back on the DK and cleared it as well in one go with the same gear and a ~400K score. Since then I cleared it on Stamina NB (ultimate glass cannon), Magicka Templar (she's healer most of the time), Stamina Warden (mostly tanks). So that was Maelstrom for me in a nutshell. I don't really understand how people can get stuck in there literally for months and not be able to clear. I'm a mediocre DD now (35-37K melee, 28-30K ranged), and I was a terrible one back then (probably could barely break 20K), and still didn't seem very hard.

Solariken

Other

A duo arena please =]

idk

Zos has clearly shown intentions of continuing down the same path that brought us MA when they added vAS. I expect they will do something either annually or every other year of something different. So yes, it will happen that we get something else along the vDSA, vMA, vAS path.

kerp

Yes

Well, I did not finish vMA, but why not something new?

Azurya

No

even the bow is broken..............