Buff nbs

Ariades_swe

Least survivable class in the game.
Bad healing, especially when stealthed.
Cloak is a horrible escape mechanism.
Dodge rolling get worse for each patch.
Damage is ok though.

AyelineESO

Not sure If trolling or serious

NB is more than fine.

Ophion

Sigh... There is multiple topics on this already. NB's are not supposed to be tanky, your healing options isn't bad. Cloak got better this patch and your post is written like a bad tripadvisor review.

EdTerra

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Least survivable class in the game.
Bad healing, especially when stealthed.
Cloak is a horrible escape mechanism.
Dodge rolling get worse for each patch.
Damage is ok though.

I've read "damage is not enough", I don't know why...

ak_pvp

I think its satire? EDIT: Yeah its satire.

If not, @ZOS_Wrobel Can DK trade all block/tankiness passives for Cloak?

techprince

Dont feed the troll.

Lexxypwns

NB is literally the strongest PVP class

Eirella

This is a joke, right? xD
As someone who mains a stam NB, they are really strong.

White wabbit

Lol

Gilvoth

nightblade does need better survivability.
that is true.

Datthaw

Yeah buff nb! We need to give cloak cc break and snare immunity, blur needs major heroism for the duration. Shrewd offering doesn't need a cast cost and refreshing path needs to be buffed 3x.

joe.smith21b14_ESO

Datthaw wrote: »

Yeah buff nb! We need to give cloak cc break and snare immunity, blur needs major heroism for the duration. Shrewd offering doesn't need a cast cost and refreshing path needs to be buffed 3x.

This guy gets it.

RighteousBacon

My incap isn’t one-shotting heavy armor builds! What is this? Nightblade really needs some help out here.

Ragnarock41

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Least survivable class in the game.
Bad healing, especially when stealthed.
Cloak is a horrible escape mechanism.
Dodge rolling get worse for each patch.
Damage is ok though.

good attempt, I give you 6 points and a bag of salt out of 10.

Ragnarock41

On the topic, since cloak is an useless ability, can we do the tradition and give it to Dks?

And Nbs can have igneous shield instead? I'm sure they will love the 3 seconds of super effective major mending for as cheap as 4000 magicka. Its good [snip] man, exactly what your stamblade needs. I don't even understand why they give DKs such OP buffs.

[Edited to remove profanity]

kadar

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Least survivable class in the game.
Bad healing, especially when stealthed.
Cloak is a horrible escape mechanism.
Dodge rolling get worse for each patch.
Damage is ok though. amaze-balls

Fixed.

Ankael07

Is there an achievement for most comments made on one's post or something? Seeing so many troll posts lately

kadar

Ophion wrote: »

Sigh... There is multiple topics on this already. NB's are not supposed to be tanky, your healing options isn't bad. Cloak got better this patch and your post is written like a bad tripadvisor review.

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

nightblade does need better survivability.
that is true.

Why is NB less survivable than other classes?

ak_pvp

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

On the topic, since cloak is an useless ability, can we do the tradition and give it to Dks?

And Nbs can have igneous shield instead? I'm sure they will love the 3 seconds of super effective major mending for as cheap as 4000 magicka. Its good [snip] man, exactly what your stamblade needs. I don't even understand why they give DKs such OP buffs.

Nah, DK will have anything unique given away until all their keys are rebound to block, and the ultimate is a lua popup saying reroll stamden. Sarcasm, but look at inferno, fossilize, the pure burst of leap put into a warden skill, the ranged counter nerfed heavily, and then warden gets a better version, warden has a type talons too, and now people want an open chains too.

[Edited for quote]

Izaki

Lexxypwns wrote: »

NB is literally the strongest PVP class

And strongest PvE class too

GeorgeBlack

You do realise that the class you chose to play is: get in kill get out
and it is up to you to be good enought to get the kill and get out?

You have all the tools for that playstyle.
If you want to excell in a different playstyle get into a new class

Thogard

The_Outsider wrote: »

Ophion wrote: »

Sigh... There is multiple topics on this already. NB's are not supposed to be tanky, your healing options isn't bad. Cloak got better this patch and your post is written like a bad tripadvisor review.

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

nightblade does need better survivability.
that is true.

Why is NB less survivable than other classes?

It’s not. It is by far the most survivable class. It’s just that the class (stamblade not Magblade) really attracts the least skilled players in the game. They don’t understand the difference between surviving via kiting / vanish / shade / rolldodge and tanking. Which, by the way, nightblade is amazing at too. Major resistance buffs as a passive? That’d be nice on any other class.

Reverb

Are you trying to use reverse psychology on the devs?

IZZEFlameLash

Has to be a joke. NB of any specs have the HIGHEST damage of all with very great escaping mechanics and always the first striker with an intent and do make surprisingly good tanks too. Only counter to a good NB is another NB. Even if I am not good at NB at all, it still does high enough damage for me to get by most of the times with great sustain I can only dream of as a mDK main.

kadar

Thogard wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

Ophion wrote: »

Sigh... There is multiple topics on this already. NB's are not supposed to be tanky, your healing options isn't bad. Cloak got better this patch and your post is written like a bad tripadvisor review.

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

nightblade does need better survivability.
that is true.

Why is NB less survivable than other classes?

It’s not. It is by far the most survivable class. It’s just that the class (stamblade not Magblade) really attracts the least skilled players in the game. They don’t understand the difference between surviving via kiting / vanish / shade / rolldodge and tanking. Which, by the way, nightblade is amazing at too. Major resistance buffs as a passive? That’d be nice on any other class.

I don't know if I would ascribe the title of most survivable, but I absolutely agree that the class isn't any more inherently squishy than any other class. That's what I was getting at by asking the question. People make ridiculous blanket statements and sometimes the question needs to be asked to get people to stop and think. Wait hold on, "why?"

Morgul667

If you have trouble with NB right now, you’re in trouble as they are at the top of the food chain for now.

Unfadingsilence

I enjoy my Stam NB in pvp my healing is fine vigor tool tip almost around 19k rally is great as well and my "OMG I'm about to die" 40k healing ult on my bow bar is even better

Sergykid

nerf sorc

wait... nerf NB

thankyourat

I don't really think nightblade is a lot better than other classes overall. it is about time for the stun from incap to be removed though

ak_pvp

Sergykid wrote: »

nerf sorc

wait... nerf NB

Got it. We are nerfing DK and templar again.

thankyourat wrote: »

I don't really think nightblade is a lot better than other classes overall. it is about time for the stun from incap to be removed though

Removing the stun won't do much. It doesn't affect the CC immune or the blocking. Fear exists and is a staple on an NB bar. The reason NB is better is because of how good cloak is compared to everything else, no numerical limits, dot supression, dots and heals crit. The counters are more discreet. Mark and detect pots really the only ones truely hurting, since AoEs+magelight is costly and can be avoided.

Cloak is like old wings on roids.

Not saying nerf, but some changes and buffs to other classes are in order.

thankyourat

ak_pvp wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

nerf sorc

wait... nerf NB

Got it. We are nerfing DK and templar again.

thankyourat wrote: »

I don't really think nightblade is a lot better than other classes overall. it is about time for the stun from incap to be removed though

Removing the stun won't do much. It doesn't affect the CC immune or the blocking. Fear exists and is a staple on an NB bar. The reason NB is better is because of how good cloak is compared to everything else, no numerical limits, dot supression, dots and heals crit. The counters are more discreet. Mark and detect pots really the only ones truely hurting, since AoEs+magelight is costly and can be avoided.

Cloak is like old wings on roids.

Not saying nerf, but some changes and buffs to other classes are in order.

Are we talking cloak for 1v1 or 1vX? 1v1 cloak is ok but I drop it completely for a damage shield. Damage shields are a lot stronger for 1v1. Cloak can be the strongest potential defensive ability when outnumbered, but you can also be killed while you are cloaked which is not the case for the other defensive abilities. You can hit a stamblade with a hard hitting ultimate when they cloak and then basically finish them off while ccd. Detect pots are also great during the execute phase. I think a incap losing the cc will be a huge nerf. The only way a stamblade can kill you if you are built properly is with incap into relentless. A fear into incap has very little killing potential. Without the stun from incap you will always be able to blow the bow meaning you will survive the burst. It's basically like when then stun was removed from crystal frag.