Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
Watching the first 30 seconds of the vid, a dude eats the full channel of your Zaan, along with an ult, and a power of the light, and doesn't die.
and it appears that the second poc kills him because he was out of resources
Yeah, that was my Templar build, it had 1400 spell DMG lmfao so that's when I found out a full on defense set up +Zaan just won't cut it
BTW if you're console you may actually recognize whom that player is (hint he's pretty good from what I hear)
And then let's think about what you said. The very idea that "...and he didn't die" is OP in of itself, what other proc set can single handedly kill a player?
Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
Watching the first 30 seconds of the vid, a dude eats the full channel of your Zaan, along with an ult, and a power of the light, and doesn't die.
and it appears that the second poc kills him because he was out of resources
Yeah, that was my Templar build, it had 1400 spell DMG lmfao so that's when I found out a full on defense set up +Zaan just won't cut it
BTW if you're console you may actually recognize whom that player is (hint he's pretty good from what I hear)
And then let's think about what you said. The very idea that "...and he didn't die" is OP in of itself, what other proc set can single handedly kill a player?
Pc mustard race here.
And it just shows what I have been saying all along.
Zaan on it's own doesn't kill people all that often.
You either need to build around it with ways of making the damage stick, or you need to actually deal damage on your own, at which point any monster set does pretty much the same thing.
Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
Watching the first 30 seconds of the vid, a dude eats the full channel of your Zaan, along with an ult, and a power of the light, and doesn't die.
and it appears that the second poc kills him because he was out of resources
Yeah, that was my Templar build, it had 1400 spell DMG lmfao so that's when I found out a full on defense set up +Zaan just won't cut it
BTW if you're console you may actually recognize whom that player is (hint he's pretty good from what I hear)
And then let's think about what you said. The very idea that "...and he didn't die" is OP in of itself, what other proc set can single handedly kill a player?
Pc mustard race here.
And it just shows what I have been saying all along.
Zaan on it's own doesn't kill people all that often.
You either need to build around it with ways of making the damage stick, or you need to actually deal damage on your own, at which point any monster set does pretty much the same thing.
True, but 20k man? Dive never did this kind of damage and all the same counters apply
Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
Watching the first 30 seconds of the vid, a dude eats the full channel of your Zaan, along with an ult, and a power of the light, and doesn't die.
and it appears that the second poc kills him because he was out of resources
Yeah, that was my Templar build, it had 1400 spell DMG lmfao so that's when I found out a full on defense set up +Zaan just won't cut it
BTW if you're console you may actually recognize whom that player is (hint he's pretty good from what I hear)
And then let's think about what you said. The very idea that "...and he didn't die" is OP in of itself, what other proc set can single handedly kill a player?
Pc mustard race here.
And it just shows what I have been saying all along.
Zaan on it's own doesn't kill people all that often.
You either need to build around it with ways of making the damage stick, or you need to actually deal damage on your own, at which point any monster set does pretty much the same thing.
True, but 20k man? Dive never did this kind of damage and all the same counters apply
Range and reliability.
Dive was undodgeable damage with no condition, with a substantially larger threat area. Plus Dive was only limited by a Warden's resource pools, and there was o way you could prevent the spam for a period.
I ran Zaan as a means to test out whether or not it fit the hype that surrounded it. The end result? I swapped Zaan for: Blood Spawn, Grothdarr, and Skoria. Just as I assumed I would. There is no way I’d give up 1 of those 3 sets for Zaan. No way; no how.
Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
Watching the first 30 seconds of the vid, a dude eats the full channel of your Zaan, along with an ult, and a power of the light, and doesn't die.
and it appears that the second poc kills him because he was out of resources
Yeah, that was my Templar build, it had 1400 spell DMG lmfao so that's when I found out a full on defense set up +Zaan just won't cut it
BTW if you're console you may actually recognize whom that player is (hint he's pretty good from what I hear)
And then let's think about what you said. The very idea that "...and he didn't die" is OP in of itself, what other proc set can single handedly kill a player?
Pc mustard race here.
And it just shows what I have been saying all along.
Zaan on it's own doesn't kill people all that often.
You either need to build around it with ways of making the damage stick, or you need to actually deal damage on your own, at which point any monster set does pretty much the same thing.
True, but 20k man? Dive never did this kind of damage and all the same counters apply
Range and reliability.
Dive was undodgeable damage with no condition, with a substantially larger threat area. Plus Dive was only limited by a Warden's resource pools, and there was o way you could prevent the spam for a period.
Give it time, imo just like dive, higher end players won't have much of an issue dealing. But the majority will, and therefore there will be OP threads, and it will be nerfed
Saucy_Jack wrote: »For those who think Zaan is too OP, why not run it yourselves to even the playing field? For those already running Zaan, what is/are your reason/s for running it? I'm asking this out of honest curiosity.
The_Protagonist wrote: »Why are people so clueless about Zaan, as soon I got that helm and tested it in a few dungeons, I was seriously disappointed, even with Elfbane it's really very situational, the moment I dodge out or move away due to mechanics, it breaks, DPS is mediocre with it just like Grothdaar and Ilambris. Only in fights that are tank and spank is it just a wee bit useful, but at the loss of one five piece.
This has clearly been blown out of proportion by noobies and PvP carebears. People who state that this set is OP have never tested it themselves and have been as usual fodder to good players.
TL;DR Git Gud buddy and for heaven's sake stop complaining about everything.
Saucy_Jack wrote: »WakeYourGhost wrote: »@Saucy_Jack
...Your name is also a reference to Jack the Ripper, isn't it?
...If it's not, I'm over-thinking.. If it is, I feel like even more of an ijit.
It's actually a nod to This Is Spinal Tap, but since in the movie they're referencing Jack the Ripper, I suppose technically you're right.
But I should make a point to say my name is meant as a thumbs up to the comedic genius of McKean, Guest, and Shearer, and not a thumbs up to serial killing.
Saucy_Jack wrote: »For those who think Zaan is too OP, why not run it yourselves to even the playing field? For those already running Zaan, what is/are your reason/s for running it? I'm asking this out of honest curiosity.
As an aside, for those who don't get the thread title's reference, what the heck is wrong with you? Culture yourselves.
Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
Watching the first 30 seconds of the vid, a dude eats the full channel of your Zaan, along with an ult, and a power of the light, and doesn't die.
and it appears that the second poc kills him because he was out of resources
Yeah, that was my Templar build, it had 1400 spell DMG lmfao so that's when I found out a full on defense set up +Zaan just won't cut it
BTW if you're console you may actually recognize whom that player is (hint he's pretty good from what I hear)
And then let's think about what you said. The very idea that "...and he didn't die" is OP in of itself, what other proc set can single handedly kill a player?