Troll King and Green Dragons Blood

ol_BANK_lo

Does Troll King not work with Green Dragons Blood? I can't get it to proc. I can with Vigor, but not GDB. Clearly they are both heals. Anyone know?

Sergykid

maybe u reach 50% hp after using it, so Troll King doesn't proc. Or just a bug, dunno

ol_BANK_lo

Sergykid wrote: »

maybe u reach 50% hp after using it, so Troll King doesn't proc. Or just a bug, dunno

Yeah, I guess maybe it waits to proc until after you use the heal ability, and then checks your health.

I just tried again, where I got very low health, healed to above 50%, but quickly got below 50% again, and it still didn't proc.

So, apparently, you have to use the heal ability, it checks immediately if you are below 50%. If you are, then it procs. If not, then you don't get, even if you fall below 50% within the 10 seconds that Troll King is supposed to be active. So TK is almost useless when using GDB.

Rungar

use burning embers to proc it. you can make that heal as small as you want.

Ragnarock41

Rungar wrote: »

use burning embers to proc it. you can make that heal as small as you want.

yeah, burning embers on a stamDK, amazing solution to OP's problem.

Sergykid

stam build in pvp without vigor?

Ragnarock41

Sergykid wrote: »

stam build in pvp without vigor?

If you're making a tank DK and investing heavily into Hp and magicka, then GDB is actually better than vigor since it scales from missing HP. such a build will be useless outside of debuffing, CC'ing people, but people still play block bot DKs anyways.

Peekachu99

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

stam build in pvp without vigor?

If you're making a tank DK and investing heavily into Hp and magicka, then GDB is actually better than vigor since it scales from missing HP. such a build will be useless outside of debuffing, CC'ing people, but people still play block bot DKs anyways.

I think the OP is a Stam DK, but I’m not 100% on that.

Ragnarock41

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

stam build in pvp without vigor?

If you're making a tank DK and investing heavily into Hp and magicka, then GDB is actually better than vigor since it scales from missing HP. such a build will be useless outside of debuffing, CC'ing people, but people still play block bot DKs anyways.

I think the OP is a Stam DK, but I’m not 100% on that.

if thats the case GDB is a noob trap on a stamDk, total garbage skill on a cost efficiency level.

ol_BANK_lo

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

stam build in pvp without vigor?

If you're making a tank DK and investing heavily into Hp and magicka, then GDB is actually better than vigor since it scales from missing HP. such a build will be useless outside of debuffing, CC'ing people, but people still play block bot DKs anyways.

I think the OP is a Stam DK, but I’m not 100% on that.

DK Tank. Playing around with different options and builds for no healer setups. And yes, GDB works nicely on the tank in many scenarios. But Troll King didn't work the way I thought it would, but I had never used it.

BroddFletcher

Q: If I have a HOT on when going below 50%, does TK proc on the next HOT tick?

DeadlyRecluse

BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »

Yeah, I guess maybe it waits to proc until after you use the heal ability, and then checks your health.

Yes, that's exactly how it works. It's more consistent to keep up a HOT rather than hope a burst heal lands you under 50%. Rally or the bleed+heal from DW work well, but if you aren't using either of those weapon sets you have fewer options.

BroddFletcher wrote: »

Q: If I have a HOT on when going below 50%, does TK proc on the next HOT tick?

Yes.

D0PAMINE

BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »

Does Troll King not work with Green Dragons Blood? I can't get it to proc. I can with Vigor, but not GDB. Clearly they are both heals. Anyone know?

I found it easier to just cast Igneous then GDB. You get major mending. Then you can use a Monster Set like Chuden or Bloodspawn etc. If you run chuden you can drop Spiked Armor and maybe use Cinder Storm