Taleof2Cities wrote: »Leveling rewards are intended for new players ... therefore the scrolls are character bound.
In addition, players would just abuse the system by banking these and then deleting the character.
TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
Nonsense. The time and effort you'd have to put it to get up the levels to get the rewards simply isn't worth it once you've got your first and only Sorrell Horse and Storage Chest. For example, the respec scrolls are level 43, for heaven's sake. You can make the 15k or so you need to respec in an hour or two. The point is they're wasted by binding them to the one character.
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TheRealPotoroo wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Leveling rewards are intended for new players ... therefore the scrolls are character bound.
In addition, players would just abuse the system by banking these and then deleting the character.
Nonsense. The time and effort you'd have to put it to get up the levels to get the rewards simply isn't worth it once you've got your first and only Sorrell Horse and Storage Chest. For example, the respec scrolls are level 43, for heaven's sake. You can make the 15k or so you need to respec in an hour or two. The point is they're wasted by binding them to the one character.
WakeYourGhost wrote: »TheRealPotoroo wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Leveling rewards are intended for new players ... therefore the scrolls are character bound.
In addition, players would just abuse the system by banking these and then deleting the character.
Nonsense. The time and effort you'd have to put it to get up the levels to get the rewards simply isn't worth it once you've got your first and only Sorrell Horse and Storage Chest. For example, the respec scrolls are level 43, for heaven's sake. You can make the 15k or so you need to respec in an hour or two. The point is they're wasted by binding them to the one character.
Nonsense. I can level a character from 1-50 in an hour or two and make 15k or more in that time.
TheRealPotoroo wrote: »WakeYourGhost wrote: »TheRealPotoroo wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Leveling rewards are intended for new players ... therefore the scrolls are character bound.
In addition, players would just abuse the system by banking these and then deleting the character.
Nonsense. The time and effort you'd have to put it to get up the levels to get the rewards simply isn't worth it once you've got your first and only Sorrell Horse and Storage Chest. For example, the respec scrolls are level 43, for heaven's sake. You can make the 15k or so you need to respec in an hour or two. The point is they're wasted by binding them to the one character.
Nonsense. I can level a character from 1-50 in an hour or two and make 15k or more in that time.
In your dreams, maybe.
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TheRealPotoroo wrote: »WakeYourGhost wrote: »TheRealPotoroo wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Leveling rewards are intended for new players ... therefore the scrolls are character bound.
In addition, players would just abuse the system by banking these and then deleting the character.
Nonsense. The time and effort you'd have to put it to get up the levels to get the rewards simply isn't worth it once you've got your first and only Sorrell Horse and Storage Chest. For example, the respec scrolls are level 43, for heaven's sake. You can make the 15k or so you need to respec in an hour or two. The point is they're wasted by binding them to the one character.
Nonsense. I can level a character from 1-50 in an hour or two and make 15k or more in that time.
In your dreams, maybe.
in theory, he probably can. you know with golded out training gear, being carried through some fast grind spot while using xp pot. in theory. not on their own though. and is it worth actualy doing? especially for the person that is carrying them? and if they are trading carries to make it fair, then - we just doubled up the time to get rewards... and.... we get back to the "is it even worth the effort part of this conversation.
TheRealPotoroo wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Leveling rewards are intended for new players ... therefore the scrolls are character bound.
In addition, players would just abuse the system by banking these and then deleting the character.
Nonsense. The time and effort you'd have to put it to get up the levels to get the rewards simply isn't worth it once you've got your first and only Sorrell Horse and Storage Chest. For example, the respec scrolls are level 43, for heaven's sake. You can make the 15k or so you need to respec in an hour or two. The point is they're wasted by binding them to the one character.
RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »The rewards are character bound in order to stop cheesy people from exploiting an act of generosity which has been made for the benefit of new players by ZOS.
Don't forget that crown crates and crown store consumables normally cost real money to buy, as do some pets and costumes. ZOS is effectively giving away real money here. Allowing people to exploit this system could have a real effect on revenue from the sale of crowns.
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TheRealPotoroo wrote: »WakeYourGhost wrote: »TheRealPotoroo wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Leveling rewards are intended for new players ... therefore the scrolls are character bound.
In addition, players would just abuse the system by banking these and then deleting the character.
Nonsense. The time and effort you'd have to put it to get up the levels to get the rewards simply isn't worth it once you've got your first and only Sorrell Horse and Storage Chest. For example, the respec scrolls are level 43, for heaven's sake. You can make the 15k or so you need to respec in an hour or two. The point is they're wasted by binding them to the one character.
Nonsense. I can level a character from 1-50 in an hour or two and make 15k or more in that time.
In your dreams, maybe.
duendology wrote: »How many times does it need to be repeated?
This system is designed for new players aka players who never have played this game or mmo in general.
And I find it very useful as I am playing the new character pretending I don't have anything - gold included- (apart from experience).. and yeah.. I even used the glyphs etc.. and they DID turn out ot be useful...I do not doubt the devs will be updating the system, it's new after all. But I do think it's a good idea..especially for people to whom MMO is a totally new thing.
I know that it's hard to grasp to some of you.. but yeah, guess what, this game is also played by people who were not born with game controller in hands.
If you don't like it turn it off.. but don't whine it does not give you dungeon items, crown crates items..and whatever the hell you think you're entitled to get because you played the zillions hours (and probably,have more characters that you can handle} and have got everything already. Ughh
Seriously...
o_0
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oh look. someone didn't read the actual post and replied to what he THOUGHT was in it.
guess what? it would be even MORE useful for a new player to be able to bank excess potions and the like. because when a new player creates a new character? they likely don't have the support network old player does so maybe they had some potions left over or an xp scroll or didn't need to respec as much. guess what - being able to send those consumables to their new character? is going to help them MORE then to a veteran who can make up the gold to get in game alternative in a few minutes give or take.
duendology wrote: »
oh look. someone didn't read the actual post and replied to what he THOUGHT was in it.
guess what? it would be even MORE useful for a new player to be able to bank excess potions and the like. because when a new player creates a new character? they likely don't have the support network old player does so maybe they had some potions left over or an xp scroll or didn't need to respec as much. guess what - being able to send those consumables to their new character? is going to help them MORE then to a veteran who can make up the gold to get in game alternative in a few minutes give or take.
Oh I have. ANd it's not only this thread but several others. Perhaps I should have included specific reply in this post. Oh well
Actually you're mean to use these consumables as you level up. Or is it surprise?
"bank excess"? What does it mean?
Actually, I don't understand what you wrote there. All the items a new player is given while levelling up are there for the said player to use to help them to level up.
And they're given such rewards, exactly because this hypothetical player has no access to guilds or already stored items which a veteran one has.
Aside consumables all collectibles are server wide. So, what's the whining about again?
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P.P.S. god forbid we make a system even semi decent to someone who is not a completely new player. to hell with those veterans, amirite? must stop hypothetical abuse or something at the cost of regular players, of course.
duendology wrote: »
P.P.S. god forbid we make a system even semi decent to someone who is not a completely new player. to hell with those veterans, amirite? must stop hypothetical abuse or something at the cost of regular players, of course.
A levelling up system rewards for a veteran player?
o_0
Let me guess, crown crates goodies, ability to store everything for another alt, a new mount each time a new character is created, a new costume and pet every time a new character is created, 200 experience scrolls...
what did I miss?
KiraTsukasa wrote: »duendology wrote: »
P.P.S. god forbid we make a system even semi decent to someone who is not a completely new player. to hell with those veterans, amirite? must stop hypothetical abuse or something at the cost of regular players, of course.
A levelling up system rewards for a veteran player?
o_0
Let me guess, crown crates goodies, ability to store everything for another alt, a new mount each time a new character is created, a new costume and pet every time a new character is created, 200 experience scrolls...
what did I miss?
What if you worked a job and they said "only new employees get to be paid for the last month", would you be alright with that?
duendology wrote: »KiraTsukasa wrote: »duendology wrote: »
P.P.S. god forbid we make a system even semi decent to someone who is not a completely new player. to hell with those veterans, amirite? must stop hypothetical abuse or something at the cost of regular players, of course.
A levelling up system rewards for a veteran player?
o_0
Let me guess, crown crates goodies, ability to store everything for another alt, a new mount each time a new character is created, a new costume and pet every time a new character is created, 200 experience scrolls...
what did I miss?
What if you worked a job and they said "only new employees get to be paid for the last month", would you be alright with that?
This is a stupid analogy. Sorry.
TheRealPotoroo wrote: »WakeYourGhost wrote: »TheRealPotoroo wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Leveling rewards are intended for new players ... therefore the scrolls are character bound.
In addition, players would just abuse the system by banking these and then deleting the character.
Nonsense. The time and effort you'd have to put it to get up the levels to get the rewards simply isn't worth it once you've got your first and only Sorrell Horse and Storage Chest. For example, the respec scrolls are level 43, for heaven's sake. You can make the 15k or so you need to respec in an hour or two. The point is they're wasted by binding them to the one character.
Nonsense. I can level a character from 1-50 in an hour or two and make 15k or more in that time.
In your dreams, maybe.
in theory, he probably can. you know with golded out training gear, being carried through some fast grind spot while using xp pot. in theory. not on their own though. and is it worth actualy doing? especially for the person that is carrying them? and if they are trading carries to make it fair, then - we just doubled up the time to get rewards... and.... we get back to the "is it even worth the effort part of this conversation.