Stop whining.

Velvelya

Been in two bgs tonight, with the same person who keeps crying because 1. They didn't rank top despite killing more and 2. "Everyone sucked" but them, despite the fact that they were dying the same amount as everyone else.

Protip: if you want a pro group, don't Pug anything. No one wants to hear you qq at them.

Apparently putting them on Ignore does not save me from their company. Sad times.

Ermiq

Been in several BGs last two days because I had need to test an addon. I suck in PvE as I'm very very bad DD, I suck in PvP even more 'cause I absolutely can not PvP. Moreover, I was wearing PvE gear, I had no food buffs, I had no clue what I supposed to do at BG (it was my first BGs ever in ESO).
And no one did whine there. They truly should have been whining, and I really deserve all bad words on earth because I was one of the worst and useless teammates ever, but they said nothing. Guess I'm lucky.

Im_MegaDeath

Oh I thought the title was for everyone on the forums badum tssss

shiningforce

Had a guy the other night join a random group with some people I had been doing Veteran dungeons with whom I also randomly met. He comes into the group (Tank) stands there for about 3-5 min. Then Runs into a room pulls all the mobs and then pulls mobs in the 2nd and half the 3rd room. He then starts yelling at everyone that they are not ready for Veteran.

Lol we were doing just fine until this guy, then starts swearing at all of us saying we pulled the mobs which was ridiculous. Even if you had the best of the best playing on vet pulling 3 rooms is a ridiculous amount of mobs that cant be dealt with, Especially when we didnt know he was doing initially, no word just ran past us.

Glad we had lead, he then starts QQing about how we are all children and how I only use uppercut lol, its called reverse slash which I use on bigger enemies after 50% down; Plus I was switching from bow to 2h depending on circumstance, anyhow within 2 seconds we kicked him. Told him in /w that Next time come into a group with a better attitude, don't lie and pull as many rooms as possible then cry about it and blame others; Perhaps make your own group if you can ever find friends with that bad attitude. Put him on ignore. Some people are just nuts in this game. I feel ya.

Thogard

I usually don’t whine at my group when pugging in BGs

But there are two things that do make me whine;

1. When a random teammate tries to 1v4 a group by himself instead of waiting. Sometimes if they’re mobile this is ok, but it’s almost always someone terrible. It’s like they’re intentionally trying to be mindless trash-mobs in FPS games that attack one at a time and it really bugs me.

If someone keeps doing this I’ll say “PLAYER YOUR 1vX CREDENTIALS HAVE BEEN REVOKED, DO NOT LEAVE BASE WITHOUT A CHAPERONE”

2. A Stam dps that doesn’t cast vigor on others. If you have vigor and do not heal for at least 50k on the leaderboard by the end of the match, you are a trash player and do not deserve to be able to queue for group combat anymore. My messages for this can be quite mean, but they also work and I like to think I’m making the world a better place by teaching people that *gasp* vigors stack.

Velvelya

I'm just saying, it's fine to be frustrated, and certainly when people aren't following directives and instead are doing their own thing it's annoying, but you can't expect perfection from a bunch of randoms much less NONVET randoms. The most complaints I make in a BG are "constructive" as in "this is a flag cap match not a death match." Because people often seems to forget what theyre supposed to be doing. Telling people "they suck" when you're on the same team as them doesn't inspire them to do better.

2nd team up with him and I got sick of the attitude, left and put them on ignore. A place where I've only sent one other person in 4 years. Hopefully this prevented any future match ups.

Tl:Dr don't expect perfection from people you just met.

Thogard wrote: »

I usually don’t whine at my group when pugging in BGs

But there are two things that do make me whine;



2. A Stam dps that doesn’t cast vigor on others. If you have vigor and do not heal for at least 50k on the leaderboard by the end of the match, you are a trash player and do not deserve to be able to queue for group combat anymore. My messages for this can be quite mean, but they also work and I like to think I’m making the world a better place by teaching people that *gasp* vigors stack.

Every player should have one heal slotted tbh...

Morgul667

Velvelya wrote: »

I'm just saying, it's fine to be frustrated, and certainly when people aren't following directives and instead are doing their own thing it's annoying, but you can't expect perfection from a bunch of randoms much less NONVET randoms. The most complaints I make in a BG are "constructive" as in "this is a flag cap match not a death match." Because people often seems to forget what theyre supposed to be doing. Telling people "they suck" when you're on the same team as them doesn't inspire them to do better.

2nd team up with him and I got sick of the attitude, left and put them on ignore. A place where I've only sent one other person in 4 years. Hopefully this prevented any future match ups.

Tl:Dr don't expect perfection from people you just met.

Thogard wrote: »

I usually don’t whine at my group when pugging in BGs

But there are two things that do make me whine;



2. A Stam dps that doesn’t cast vigor on others. If you have vigor and do not heal for at least 50k on the leaderboard by the end of the match, you are a trash player and do not deserve to be able to queue for group combat anymore. My messages for this can be quite mean, but they also work and I like to think I’m making the world a better place by teaching people that *gasp* vigors stack.

Every player should have one heal slotted tbh...

True but I find some builds are hard to include vigor to be honest. Ok most builds should have it but a few of them kind of need to remove vigor. I run it most of the time unless I try something new and am with a healer.

Anyway, not the point of the topic.

You find QQers in BG, in PVP (telling everybody but them is trash and that the campaign is doomed because DC/AD/EP is stupid), in PVE (where people just yell at others because they believe they are the dungeons master and are the best of the best, others cant tank/dps/heal)

tends to happen in all aspects of the game. I usually ignore them

VaranisArano

Just tell them "Less QQ, more pew-pew."

Velvelya

Lol, pretty much what I said the first BG, after explaining why they ranked lower then a person with less kills in a relic match, and then the 2nd time before quiting group. Some people just don't know how not be toxic though.

Doctordarkspawn

It has been my continued experience with any sort of PVP crowd that attempting to communicate on any level with people you dont know personally, is useless.

Because it's allways dimissed as 'whining'. So the title should actually be, 'stop talking'.

VaranisArano

Velvelya wrote: »

Lol, pretty much what I said the first BG, after explaining why they ranked lower then a person with less kills in a relic match, and then the 2nd time before quiting group. Some people just don't know how not be toxic though.

True, there are certain players who think every Battleground should be a Deathmatch.

Morgul667

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

It has been my continued experience with any sort of PVP crowd that attempting to communicate on any level with people you dont know personally, is useless.

Because it's allways dimissed as 'whining'. So the title should actually be, 'stop talking'.

I actually met some cool players in BG that ended in my friend list. We did exchange tactics ideas and fun topics

vyndral13preub18_ESO

You can’t tell me to stop! Im winning bigly Im winning more the anyone has ever won before. Believe me...

What is that you say?

Oh. I may have read this title wrong...

Velvelya

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

It has been my continued experience with any sort of PVP crowd that attempting to communicate on any level with people you dont know personally, is useless.

Because it's allways dimissed as 'whining'. So the title should actually be, 'stop talking'.

I think there is a distinction between communicating effectively, and constructively and communicating the fact that your a jerk though. Sure there are thin skined people who will take anything negatively, and then there are people who can only express themselves toxically.

I'm (fortunately) neither of those two.

Doctordarkspawn

Velvelya wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

It has been my continued experience with any sort of PVP crowd that attempting to communicate on any level with people you dont know personally, is useless.

Because it's allways dimissed as 'whining'. So the title should actually be, 'stop talking'.

I think there is a distinction between communicating effectively, and constructively and communicating the fact that your a jerk though. Sure there are thin skined people who will take anything negatively, and then there are people who can only express themselves toxically.

I'm (fortunately) neither of those two.

Yeah, there is a difference, but I dont think many people can agree on what that difference is.

Besides. The ammount of people who take criticism constructively is lower than 1% in my experience. Everyone else responds with attempting to silence you, or sabotage you if they cant.

Slick_007

iv been in one forums tonight with the same person whining. because someone whined to them in the game, and they somehow thought we cared.

protip: dont whine about whining. 2 bg is nothing.

Aliyavana

your whining bout whining

Doctordarkspawn

aliyavana wrote: »

your whining bout whining

Case in point.

SydneyGrey

What, are you hoping he'll read this, or something?

ak_pvp

Thogard wrote: »

I usually don’t whine at my group when pugging in BGs

But there are two things that do make me whine;

1. When a random teammate tries to 1v4 a group by himself instead of waiting. Sometimes if they’re mobile this is ok, but it’s almost always someone terrible. It’s like they’re intentionally trying to be mindless trash-mobs in FPS games that attack one at a time and it really bugs me.

Me.

As for the nub mentioned by the OP, why would he complain about not being top. If he played better, he would be. Its like they are insulting themselves.

Velvelya

Slick_007 wrote: »

iv been in one forums tonight with the same person whining. because someone whined to them in the game, and they somehow thought we cared.

protip: dont whine about whining. 2 bg is nothing.

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

your whining bout whining

Case in point.

And your posts qualify as whining about whining as you also whine. Point being?

VaranisArano

Velvelya wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

iv been in one forums tonight with the same person whining. because someone whined to them in the game, and they somehow thought we cared.

protip: dont whine about whining. 2 bg is nothing.

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

your whining bout whining

Case in point.

And your posts qualify as whining about whining as you also whine. Point being?

Look, if this is where we're gonna go, just go straight to the memes.

D0PAMINE

Velvelya wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

It has been my continued experience with any sort of PVP crowd that attempting to communicate on any level with people you dont know personally, is useless.

Because it's allways dimissed as 'whining'. So the title should actually be, 'stop talking'.

I think there is a distinction between communicating effectively, and constructively and communicating the fact that your a jerk though. Sure there are thin skined people who will take anything negatively, and then there are people who can only express themselves toxically.

I'm (fortunately) neither of those two.

You're something alright...

geonsocal

VaranisArano wrote: »

Velvelya wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

iv been in one forums tonight with the same person whining. because someone whined to them in the game, and they somehow thought we cared.

protip: dont whine about whining. 2 bg is nothing.

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

your whining bout whining

Case in point.

And your posts qualify as whining about whining as you also whine. Point being?

Look, if this is where we're gonna go, just go straight to the memes.

what time is it?

ol_BANK_lo

Eremith wrote: »

Been in several BGs last two days because I had need to test an addon. I suck in PvE as I'm very very bad DD, I suck in PvP even more 'cause I absolutely can not PvP. Moreover, I was wearing PvE gear, I had no food buffs, I had no clue what I supposed to do at BG (it was my first BGs ever in ESO).
And no one did whine there. They truly should have been whining, and I really deserve all bad words on earth because I was one of the worst and useless teammates ever, but they said nothing. Guess I'm lucky.

lmao

Doctordarkspawn

Velvelya wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

iv been in one forums tonight with the same person whining. because someone whined to them in the game, and they somehow thought we cared.

protip: dont whine about whining. 2 bg is nothing.

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

your whining bout whining

Case in point.

And your posts qualify as whining about whining as you also whine. Point being?

That talking to PVP players is pointless because they will make a concious effort to take anything said in any matter as hostile, just like your doing now?

That any attempt at communication will be taken as 'whining' and thus will give people license to harass people up until they quit, or worse?

That helping the PVP audience or making games for them isn't worth the profit due to the fact it means working around this mentality?

Threads like this, the mentality like this, is why PVP based MMO's and games are doomed. You people are your activities own worst enemy.

CelestialSlayer

I don't mind nice friendly feedback, and I by no means intend to 'ruin' people's fun or dungeon. However I can't abide elitist idiots who suck all the joy out of the game. I think this is an mmo problem though where everyone seems to get obsessed with maximum efficient performance and not helped by the poor group finder in eso.

Doctordarkspawn

CelestialSlayer wrote: »

I don't mind nice friendly feedback, and I by no means intend to 'ruin' people's fun or dungeon. However I can't abide elitist idiots who suck all the joy out of the game. I think this is an mmo problem though where everyone seems to get obsessed with maximum efficient performance and not helped by the poor group finder in eso.

Definately not a MMO problem. It exists in any environment where people can see their activity as competative.

And people just dont the time for it in this day and age.

Velvelya

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Velvelya wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

iv been in one forums tonight with the same person whining. because someone whined to them in the game, and they somehow thought we cared.

protip: dont whine about whining. 2 bg is nothing.

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

your whining bout whining

Case in point.

And your posts qualify as whining about whining as you also whine. Point being?

That talking to PVP players is pointless because they will make a concious effort to take anything said in any matter as hostile, just like your doing now?

That any attempt at communication will be taken as 'whining' and thus will give people license to harass people up until they quit, or worse?

That helping the PVP audience or making games for them isn't worth the profit due to the fact it means working around this mentality?

Threads like this, the mentality like this, is why PVP based MMO's and games are doomed. You people are your activities own worst enemy.

Again there is a difference between talking constructively and talking toxically. The hostile person here isn't me, it's you for basically going "it's doomed!" When that's not the case at all.

IF the person I mentioned had been constructive instead of a jerk the thread wouldn't exist. if people could learn some civility for online time, everyone would be happier.

D0PAMINE

I hate complaining threads

Velvelya

Seems like you like complaining about them tho