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Magicka Dragonknight Build PVP Dragonbones
Areloth
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Hey guys,
I was working on my new Dragonbones Magicka DK Build for pvp the last days.
This is a solo play or small group pvp build with good sustain, good defense and high damage.
I would like to hear what you think about it and see any possibility to improve it.
I plan to run 5 Shacklebreaker, 2 Skoria and 5 Caluurion's Legacy. (5L/1M/1H), 1HS+Resto.
Withmother potent brew, triple pots and boon Atronach.
Sword nirnhoned, resto powered for higher Dragonblood heals.
I think for Dragonbones, shattering rocks will be the better morph - people will maybe not dodge roll after breaking free and deals AOE + I am able to set several players off balance and powerlash them.
Buffed Data:
Here a Link to the actual build and the CP split, skills etc.
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=41316
Flames of oblivion on the backbar can be changed for elusive mist for 1vsX, for duels definitely flames of oblivion.
Edited by Areloth on February 20, 2018 4:53PM I was working on my new Dragonbones Magicka DK Build for pvp the last days.
This is a solo play or small group pvp build with good sustain, good defense and high damage.
I would like to hear what you think about it and see any possibility to improve it.
I plan to run 5 Shacklebreaker, 2 Skoria and 5 Caluurion's Legacy. (5L/1M/1H), 1HS+Resto.
Withmother potent brew, triple pots and boon Atronach.
Sword nirnhoned, resto powered for higher Dragonblood heals.
I think for Dragonbones, shattering rocks will be the better morph - people will maybe not dodge roll after breaking free and deals AOE + I am able to set several players off balance and powerlash them.
Buffed Data:
Here a Link to the actual build and the CP split, skills etc.
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=41316
Flames of oblivion on the backbar can be changed for elusive mist for 1vsX, for duels definitely flames of oblivion.
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Areloth✭✭✭How often do you see Calurions proc and how reliable is it?
Hey Quantum,
as I said, I am planning this build, playing on PS4 so I hadn't the chance to try it yet.
But it will proc every 10 seconds, damage tooltip will be around 19-20k and the status effects look decent.
I think a skoria and Caluurion proc at the same time will hit very hard (~5k Skoria + 8k Caluurion).
Would also like to know the experiences of other people playing with it, saw a video of a MagNB and it looked really reliable.0 -
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✭i started farming this set this past weekend, was planning on testing it with shackle as well as with brass ... so far have the shield and sash, gonna be a while i think to get the jewels for it... currently running 2x Zaan, 5x BsW and 5x ShackleEdited by W0lf_z13 on February 20, 2018 5:19PMBreton Nightblade ~ Fang of the Wolf ~ (50) | Altmer Dragonknight ~ Ðårk Ŵølf ~ (50) | Altmer Necro ~ Ðeåth Ŵølf ~ (50)
☣☣☣ | Alliance ~Daggerfall Covenant~ | Server ~NA PC~ | CP's ~2156~ | ☣☣☣1 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
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That’s because you came up with a careful, well thought out build that incorporates damage, defense, and sustain of both stamina and Magicka that works well with your play style. You learned how to use your resources, and which abilities and combos work, and when to use them. You know what your build weaknesses are, and work around them to win a fight.
And it feels good, because you bloody earned it with experience and skill.
A proc-tato wears two or three proc sets and waits for his armour sets to win the fight for him. They generally remove 2/3rds or more hit points from an enemy in a proc. So, you hit one or two buttons and win. Thanks for this again ZOS.4 -
Hutch679✭✭✭✭✭
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That’s because you came up with a careful, well thought out build that incorporates damage, defense, and sustain of both stamina and Magicka that works well with your play style. You learned how to use your resources, and which abilities and combos work, and when to use them. You know what your build weaknesses are, and work around them to win a fight.
And it feels good, because you bloody earned it with experience and skill.
A proc-tato wears two or three proc sets and waits for his armour sets to win the fight for him. They generally remove 2/3rds or more hit points from an enemy in a proc. So, you hit one or two buttons and win. Thanks for this again ZOS.
How do I hit "awesome" on this post twice? Lol3 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭@Minalan but what happens when I carefully craft a build to maximize my proc potential? Something Like Spinners(the pen improves proc damage)+caluu+zaan. Then I completely forego use of elfborn CP, instead stacking heavily into MAA, spell erosion, ele expert, and shattering blows. I’d need to run 3x regen glyphs and atro mundus for magika sustain and tri-food for stam sustain.
I could put that all on a DW mageblade and take advantage of minor berserk(merciless) and major berserker, and major breech/fracture(reapers mark) both of which boost proc set damage. Then I run charged resto with shock glyph and front bar sharpened swords.
That’s a well constructed build designed around procs, am I a potato if as a solo player I run this to maximize the amount of up front burst I can deliver on a class that normally has very backloaded burst potential? Imo, this setup is more well thought out than the builds most people run/copy and I don’t want to be labeled a potato for running it.
Edit: I understand the point you’re making about proc sets but there’s always a different perspective. In my case I can theorycraft a build to maximize my proc burst potential and use that to cover a weakness in my build. A lot of players use these proc sets this way. There’s also the guy that knows he’s not elite but can throw on multiple procs and have some fun getting kills. It’s important to consider all thatEdited by Lexxypwns on February 20, 2018 8:25PM4 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭@Minalan but what happens when I carefully craft a build to maximize my proc potential? Something Like Spinners(the pen improves proc damage)+caluu+zaan. Then I completely forego use of elfborn CP, instead stacking heavily into MAA, spell erosion, ele expert, and shattering blows. I’d need to run 3x regen glyphs and atro mundus for magika sustain and tri-food for stam sustain.
I could put that all on a DW mageblade and take advantage of minor berserk(merciless) and major berserker, and major breech/fracture(reapers mark) both of which boost proc set damage. Then I run charged resto with shock glyph and front bar sharpened swords.
That’s a well constructed build designed around procs, am I a potato if as a solo player I run this to maximize the amount of up front burst I can deliver on a class that normally has very backloaded burst potential? Imo, this setup is more well thought out than the builds most people run/copy and I don’t want to be labeled a potato for running it.
Edit: I understand the point you’re making about proc sets but there’s always a different perspective. In my case I can theorycraft a build to maximize my proc burst potential and use that to cover a weakness in my build. A lot of players use these proc sets this way. There’s also the guy that knows he’s not elite but can throw on multiple procs and have some fun getting kills. It’s important to consider all that
How many buttons are you pressing to instajib someone? My guess is: not many.
Sure the first guy to theorycraft a one shot build is clever, but how many people are ‘good’ who just copy off of your YouTube video?0 -
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Except you also have DoTs running while you’re on back bar. For example, embers will give a bigger heal with nirn back bar because it will tick harder and build up more overall damage. Given that you’ll put out more damage from all your DoTs and recoup the lost healing by increasing your embers heal I think to me it’s pretty clear that nirn is the superior choice here.
Furthermore. Dragons blood isn’t gonna keep you alive on your resto bar because it’s not a large heal, gets crushed by defiles, and you can’t block cast it for any real amount of time on that bar. IMO, if you’re running resto you really should slot Healing Ward and use that shield+embers heal. Since Healing Ward scales off spell power this gives another notch to NirnEdited by Lexxypwns on February 20, 2018 8:34PM5 -
Areloth✭✭✭The new generation of proc-tatoes
Sadly it is the only way Magicka DKs can burst hard enough.
But this build is not only proc, it has sustain, damage, defense, works with DoTs and off balance...its not easy to play.
As you said, know your weakness and work a ways around it.
Edited by Areloth on February 20, 2018 8:54PM3 -
zParallaxz✭✭✭✭✭This build will have no damage against mid to high level people. Stats are to low, 37k max mag and 3.1k spell damage buffed is not enough to burst people down especially now that power lash is dodgeable.1
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zParallaxz✭✭✭✭✭For future reference, if ur playing magdk and you have over 2k regen unbuffed your damage is typically low.1
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Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
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So, MagDK can now burst, tank, mitigate a ton of damage, and heal to full with every power lash.
Balanced!
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So, MagDK can now burst, tank, mitigate a ton of damage, and heal to full with every power lash.
Balanced!
Lol I’m guessing u aren’t good at pvp if your saying magdk is balanced or op.4 -
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So, MagDK can now burst, tank, mitigate a ton of damage, and heal to full with every power lash.
Balanced!
Also literally every class that isn’t a stamblade has the ability to do most of which you describe but only better FYI.2 -
Areloth✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »This build will have no damage against mid to high level people. Stats are to low, 37k max mag and 3.1k spell damage buffed is not enough to burst people down especially now that power lash is dodgeable.
I am playing pretty much the same build with Flame blossom instead of Caluurion at the moment and I burst the *** out of people already.
There is valkyn, Caluurion/Falme blossom, Exhale from deep breath, flames of oblivion and several dots which damage you all at the same time + whips and ultimate.
If you time that with fossilize you literally nuke people down, believe me.
Here a video of some random fights, not the best ones.
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✭zParallaxz wrote: »
So, MagDK can now burst, tank, mitigate a ton of damage, and heal to full with every power lash.
Balanced!
Lol I’m guessing u aren’t good at pvp if your saying magdk is balanced or op.
Tf? Im guessing you dont pvp at all of think mdk isnt OP.0 -
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✭zParallaxz wrote: »
So, MagDK can now burst, tank, mitigate a ton of damage, and heal to full with every power lash.
Balanced!
Also literally every class that isn’t a stamblade has the ability to do most of which you describe but only better FYI.
Bet your two characters you play are a mag dk and a stam blade which is why your e saying every other class is better lol2 -
SpiderCultist✭✭✭✭✭the problem I see with Caluurion on a mDK is it doesn't work with AOEs, only single-targeted magicka skills
so you better check out what skills count as single target and multi target
for example, in your build link you got 4 single target skills and they have to crit
Edited by SpiderCultist on February 20, 2018 11:16PMPC | EU
Ashlander and Mephala worshipper.
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✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »
So, MagDK can now burst, tank, mitigate a ton of damage, and heal to full with every power lash.
Balanced!
Lol I’m guessing u aren’t good at pvp if your saying magdk is balanced or op.
Tf? Im guessing you dont pvp at all of think mdk isnt OP.
Incoming angry wings flapping from DK main.
Daily reminder MagDK is literally the worst class for OW PvP tied with a Magplar. Worst sustain, worst defense:damage tradeoffs and worst mobility. Read, nothing. An ocassionally buggy gapcloser =/= mobility. Good luck getting from tree to tree or disengaing with that. Same with mist. Its tragic.
Daily reminder DK is a tank class. ZOS's own words, and so has no viable in class defense. Just try using only wings+heal. Nb can do that with just cloak+heal.
B-but that destro/resto build smashes potatoes real good and has good sustain/survivability. The build uses elemental drain and heal ward for its sustain/defense. If that constitutes good, then lets nerf all other classes sustain/defenses to DK level and tell them to use that. Deal?
DK is completely disgusting in a duel though. Zaan and more power whips (generally) and exploiter. And they do OK in BG, despite the healer stacking magden/plar meta.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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✭✭✭SpiderCultist wrote: »the problem I see with Caluurion on a mDK is it doesn't work with AOEs, only single-targeted magicka skills
so you better check out what skills count as single target and multi target
for example, in your build link you got 4 single target skills and they have to crit
Does it proc of dots, if so whoo boyo.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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✭✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »This build will have no damage against mid to high level people. Stats are to low, 37k max mag and 3.1k spell damage buffed is not enough to burst people down especially now that power lash is dodgeable.
low stats didn't stop proctard stamblades from one shotting 30k hp tanks before...2 -
Rainingblood✭✭✭At first glance, if you're heavily weighting your build on a set that procs on crits, wouldn't you want your spell crit a lot higher than that?Phoebe Anderson0 -
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✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »zParallaxz wrote: »This build will have no damage against mid to high level people. Stats are to low, 37k max mag and 3.1k spell damage buffed is not enough to burst people down especially now that power lash is dodgeable.
low stats didn't stop proctard stamblades from one shotting 30k hp tanks before...
I don't disagree at all, and think Caluurion is OP as all heck, like viper 2.0. But I doubt it'd be a rerun of the 1 button murders NBs could do reliably/repeatedly.
Skoria/zaan doesn't proc that easily vs tumorscale/viper/widow, so I doubt many instakills will happen. Nor do they have the instantaneous up again. Skoria you'll have to wait for dots, and zaan has an 18s cooldown and deals over time.
That said I am going to abuse some scrubs with a high crit leap, whip, dead combo. Or Pre up FOO, maybe proxy for some small extra damage, foss, whip, dead. DK has been a bit eh for a while honestly so I am going to abuse the heck out of it whilst I can. MagNB will probably do so better with cloak though.Rainingblood wrote: »At first glance, if you're heavily weighting your build on a set that procs on crits, wouldn't you want your spell crit a lot higher than that?
If he shifts FOO to the front and talons/foss behind then he has 49% crit, which will do quite nicely.Edited by ak_pvp on February 21, 2018 3:18AMMagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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