Should we be able to "hide guild tabard" with our outfits?

Datthaw

Something similar to how the costumes hide the tabard but in name plates it still shows the guild name.

Edit. I understand there are alot more important things to fix this patch. Just throwing this out there.

VaranisArano

Yes

Please. Several of the outfit motifs are glitched and turn pitch black when used with a guild tabard. While I'd obviously like the motifs fixed as well, hiding the guild tabard would also work. Personally, I'd like the option to hide my standard and see my outfit but still show off my guild on my nameplate.

Datthaw

Yes

Bump

Because what's one more thing to fix in this patch

TatouFilou

Yes

UP

Morgul667

Yes

Because outfits are kinda useless if put behing big shapeless bag (tabard)

klowdy1

Yes

Every aspect of your outfit should be customisable.

Datthaw

Yes

klowdy1 wrote: »

Every aspect of your outfit should be customisable.

Ikr, it's kind of an oversight from zos

Blackleopardex

Yes

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_Holden
You will probably sell more outfits if this was a option

Gedalya

Please just take off the tabard; let the devs work on something of value.

Yoku

Yes

Gedalya wrote: »

Please just take off the tabard; let the devs work on something of value.

You obviously don't get what is it about

VaranisArano

Yes

Gedalya wrote: »

Please just take off the tabard; let the devs work on something of value.

Like getting the devs to fix the motifs where the chest piece gets turned pitch black when I equip a tabard? That's fixing an old issue that should have been fixed from the beginning, not changing a new one.

Or they could give me the option to hide my tabard or show it while wearing costumes.

Or they could add an option to represent my guild(s) on my nameplate without wearing a tabard.

Elsonso

No

Just don't wear it. Seems a lot simpler.

nekura

Yes

You should be able to rep your guild w/o the tabbard. It's a *** *** design anyway.

Voxicity

Yes

lordrichter wrote: »

Just don't wear it. Seems a lot simpler.

But i want to rep my guild on my nameplate without looking like an idiot

Elsonso

No

Voxicity wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Just don't wear it. Seems a lot simpler.

But i want to rep my guild on my nameplate without looking like an idiot

Well, I would suggest not picking a guild with an idiotic looking tabard, at that point!

Recremen

I love the idea, but I don't think it should be outfit-related. It should be a base game option in settings.

NewBlacksmurf

No

Gedalya wrote: »

Please just take off the tabard; let the devs work on something of value.

Maybe I misunderstand but my thought is just don’t wear the tabard

Recremen

lordrichter wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Just don't wear it. Seems a lot simpler.

But i want to rep my guild on my nameplate without looking like an idiot

Well, I would suggest not picking a guild with an idiotic looking tabard, at that point!

@lordrichter

My PvP guild has a wonderful tabard that I would never be caught dead in because of its restrictive color scheme. It would really be a huge boon to be able to use the tabard and rep the guild without having to conform to its color scheme. Moreover, my gear looks fresh as hell, I don't want to cover it up.

Datthaw

Yes

Voxicity wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Just don't wear it. Seems a lot simpler.

But i want to rep my guild on my nameplate without looking like an idiot

Exactly

Datthaw

Yes

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Gedalya wrote: »

Please just take off the tabard; let the devs work on something of value.

Maybe I misunderstand but my thought is just don’t wear the tabard

I mean yeah I get that, but it's guild pride ya know? Like to have it show in nameplates

Voxicity

Yes

lordrichter wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Just don't wear it. Seems a lot simpler.

But i want to rep my guild on my nameplate without looking like an idiot

Well, I would suggest not picking a guild with an idiotic looking tabard, at that point!

All tabards are idiotic looking.

NewBlacksmurf

No

Datthaw wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Gedalya wrote: »

Please just take off the tabard; let the devs work on something of value.

Maybe I misunderstand but my thought is just don’t wear the tabard

I mean yeah I get that, but it's guild pride ya know? Like to have it show in nameplates

I turn all that off so I can’t relate. I don’t like the 1990’s look to nameplates and bars and such

Recremen

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Gedalya wrote: »

Please just take off the tabard; let the devs work on something of value.

Maybe I misunderstand but my thought is just don’t wear the tabard

I mean yeah I get that, but it's guild pride ya know? Like to have it show in nameplates

I turn all that off so I can’t relate. I don’t like the 1990’s look to nameplates and bars and such

It's helpful in PvP so you can easily tell who you're about to fight. If you see some guilds you know you can still be messing around a bit, but other guilds you know it's time to put on the Serious Pants. Much like turning hazard effects to a bright pink, I hate the look but love how useful it is. I always turn it off outside of Cyro, though.

VaranisArano

Yes

Recremen wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Gedalya wrote: »

Please just take off the tabard; let the devs work on something of value.

Maybe I misunderstand but my thought is just don’t wear the tabard

I mean yeah I get that, but it's guild pride ya know? Like to have it show in nameplates

I turn all that off so I can’t relate. I don’t like the 1990’s look to nameplates and bars and such

It's helpful in PvP so you can easily tell who you're about to fight. If you see some guilds you know you can still be messing around a bit, but other guilds you know it's time to put on the Serious Pants. Much like turning hazard effects to a bright pink, I hate the look but love how useful it is. I always turn it off outside of Cyro, though.

That's the perfect description of useful guild nameplates in PVP. Messing around vs. serious pants indeed.

Datthaw

Yes

VaranisArano wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Gedalya wrote: »

Please just take off the tabard; let the devs work on something of value.

Maybe I misunderstand but my thought is just don’t wear the tabard

I mean yeah I get that, but it's guild pride ya know? Like to have it show in nameplates

I turn all that off so I can’t relate. I don’t like the 1990’s look to nameplates and bars and such

It's helpful in PvP so you can easily tell who you're about to fight. If you see some guilds you know you can still be messing around a bit, but other guilds you know it's time to put on the Serious Pants. Much like turning hazard effects to a bright pink, I hate the look but love how useful it is. I always turn it off outside of Cyro, though.

That's the perfect description of useful guild nameplates in PVP. Messing around vs. serious pants indeed.

Yeah it's great for pvp. Plus I have a guild called the chicken. All white tabard with a chicken on it. I love to wear it when I solo on my magblade because i find it funny to see my name plate be <The Chicken> when I'm cloaking around cyro but man that tabard is ugly

Tasear

Yes

They need to updated

Draxys

I just wish you could wear it under or over your outfit. That way, if it looks dumb with your outfit, you can still have that appear on your nameplate.

heaven13

rofl where does one get Serious Pants™. I think I need some RL ones.

Elsonso

No

heaven13 wrote: »

rofl where does one get Serious Pants™. I think I need some RL ones.

Those pants drop from the new HM bosses.

TheLionFromTheNorth

Yes

Just spent 300k on my favorite motif and another 20k to set up the outfit system.

And the result is hideous. The tabard doesn't only cover the amour. The chest piece is not even there - its replaced by some ugly mesh...



Please add an option to get rid off the tabard without loosing the guild name under your name.

VaranisArano

Yes

Just to clarify some of the problems I have with certain motifs, I popped in game and use the outfit system with my tabard equipped.

Problem #1: Tabards remove any front or back flaps on the armor. Obviously that makes sense for clipping, but its still different from how the armor actually looks.

Problem #2: The following motifs that I own (and I'm certain there are others that I don't own) are seriously broken. When I equipped then with a tabard, the chest piece on the torso turns pitch black. The armor choice is visible on the armors, but the chest piece is completely replaced with a black body mesh on the torso. This also applies to dropped or crafted armors in these styles. I tested with heavy armor primarily.

My current list of affected armor styles:
Abah's Watch
Apostle
Ashlander
Bloodforge
Dreadhorn
Ebonshadow
Ebony
Hollowjack
Militant Ordinator
Ra Gada
Skinchanger
Telvanni
Trinimac

That's an awful lot of motifs that have the chestpiece turn pitch black when viewed with a guild tabard equipped and I don't have all the motifs to check so there are certainly more.

These motifs should be fixed whether or not ZOS allows us to hide the guild tabard, but if they aren't going to fix the motifs, I want to hide the guild tabard so I can have the appearance I chose, not a pitch black body mesh on my torso.