Tabards - New outfit system issue

Ajaxandriel

I'm a bit disappointed with the new outfit creator, since we can not hide the guild tabard.

As I have many costumes, I never had problems to hide a tabard while letting the guild-tag display.

Now it's a shame we have to chose between -no tabard then no guild tag displaying -or guild tag displaying but outfit chest piece being hidden in the process...

(One may argue that, for the sake of roleplay, the guild emblem have to be shown, for anyone to be able to know the allegiance. But from the same roleplay perspective, I'd reply that an armband or a badge will indicate the allegiance the same way.)

So please, can we get added a "tabard slot" in the new outfit system ?

Let me suggest an ever-better option !
A tabard slot that can be cutomized !

This would cost the same (1000 or 2000 gold) and allow to fit the tabard with the character's theme. It would be usefull to roleplay sub-guild factions (since the "Units" system I proposed some time ago is not going to happen...)

ViciousBunnii

I would love to be able to hide the guild tabard costume, but I don't want to get rid of the guild name below my name..thus the reason why I still wear costumes and do not use the outfit system for anything other than dying my weapons and costumes.

Ajaxandriel

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redspecter23

The more I think about it, the more I start thinking it would just be easier to add a drop down menu on the character sheet that allows you to select the guild name to show for your character. Just completely separate tabards from your visible guild name. If you choose to wear a tabard, it could simply overwrite this option with the name of the appropriate guild.

While a hide tabard option accomplishes a similar goal, it's a less elegant solution overall.

Taleof2Cities

It’s not a new issue though ... was talked about in PTS.

Mureel

Yes please - display equipped tabard name On Off
Hide tabard On Off

Or show guild name On Off
Select guild number in drop down menu.

Or something.

Because you have 5 guilds, there has to be a way to choose the guild you want to show.

SirCritical

Ajaxandriel wrote: »

I'm a bit disappointed with the new outfit creator, since we can not hide the guild tabard.

As I have many costumes, I never had problems to hide a tabard while letting the guild-tag display.

Now it's a shame we have to chose between -no tabard then no guild tag displaying -or guild tag displaying but outfit chest piece being hidden in the process...

(One may argue that, for the sake of roleplay, the guild emblem have to be shown, for anyone to be able to know the allegiance. But from the same roleplay perspective, I'd reply that an armband or a badge will indicate the allegiance the same way.)

So please, can we get added a "tabard slot" in the new outfit system ?

Let me suggest an ever-better option !
A tabard slot that can be cutomized !

This would cost the same (1000 or 2000 gold) and allow to fit the tabard with the character's theme. It would be usefull to roleplay sub-guild factions (since the "Units" system I proposed some time ago is not going to happen...)

I wrote this numerous times: if you have problems with showing your tabard, then DO NOT WEAR IT!

It was designed for showing your enthusiasm in your guild. If you want others know your faithfulness, show them your tabard, else put it in your backpack and move along.

Really....

Mureel

SirCritical wrote: »

Ajaxandriel wrote: »

I'm a bit disappointed with the new outfit creator, since we can not hide the guild tabard.

As I have many costumes, I never had problems to hide a tabard while letting the guild-tag display.

Now it's a shame we have to chose between -no tabard then no guild tag displaying -or guild tag displaying but outfit chest piece being hidden in the process...

(One may argue that, for the sake of roleplay, the guild emblem have to be shown, for anyone to be able to know the allegiance. But from the same roleplay perspective, I'd reply that an armband or a badge will indicate the allegiance the same way.)

So please, can we get added a "tabard slot" in the new outfit system ?

Let me suggest an ever-better option !
A tabard slot that can be cutomized !

This would cost the same (1000 or 2000 gold) and allow to fit the tabard with the character's theme. It would be usefull to roleplay sub-guild factions (since the "Units" system I proposed some time ago is not going to happen...)

I wrote this numerous times: if you have problems with showing your tabard, then DO NOT WEAR IT!

It was designed for showing your enthusiasm in your guild. If you want others know your faithfulness, show them your tabard, else put it in your backpack and move along.

Really....

Shhhh! JEEZ! People want to show their enthusiasm in their nameplate - where EVERYONE LOOKS!

More options = Good.

I never even SEE tabards unless I am at a guild trader, but I readily see peoples' guild names in their nameplate.

Stop being purposefully obtuse for no actual reason.

It's apparent that no one likes your option. So stick that in your backpack and mosey along.

Voxicity

+1 should have been a feature in the update tbh, hopefully gets added soon

Ajaxandriel

I find your lack of understanding disturbing, @SirCritical
The enthusiasm and pride is meant to be weared by the guild tag, that is why I took the time to explain how one can show this enthusiasm using badge, armband or rosette... And I'm speaking as a guild GM that is free to modify the guild tabard motif as I want.
The matter here is the cosmetic fitting between the common tabard and each particular character with its own color theme and the need to display nice chest armor piece.

redspecter23 wrote: »

The more I think about it, the more I start thinking it would just be easier to add a drop down menu on the character sheet that allows you to select the guild name to show for your character. Just completely separate tabards from your visible guild name. If you choose to wear a tabard, it could simply overwrite this option with the name of the appropriate guild.

While a hide tabard option accomplishes a similar goal, it's a less elegant solution overall.

Really good idea, I have to admit!

SirCritical

Mureel wrote: »

SirCritical wrote: »

Ajaxandriel wrote: »

I'm a bit disappointed with the new outfit creator, since we can not hide the guild tabard.

As I have many costumes, I never had problems to hide a tabard while letting the guild-tag display.

Now it's a shame we have to chose between -no tabard then no guild tag displaying -or guild tag displaying but outfit chest piece being hidden in the process...

(One may argue that, for the sake of roleplay, the guild emblem have to be shown, for anyone to be able to know the allegiance. But from the same roleplay perspective, I'd reply that an armband or a badge will indicate the allegiance the same way.)

So please, can we get added a "tabard slot" in the new outfit system ?

Let me suggest an ever-better option !
A tabard slot that can be cutomized !

This would cost the same (1000 or 2000 gold) and allow to fit the tabard with the character's theme. It would be usefull to roleplay sub-guild factions (since the "Units" system I proposed some time ago is not going to happen...)

I wrote this numerous times: if you have problems with showing your tabard, then DO NOT WEAR IT!

It was designed for showing your enthusiasm in your guild. If you want others know your faithfulness, show them your tabard, else put it in your backpack and move along.

Really....

Shhhh! JEEZ! People want to show their enthusiasm in their nameplate - where EVERYONE LOOKS!

More options = Good.

I never even SEE tabards unless I am at a guild trader, but I readily see peoples' guild names in their nameplate.

Stop being purposefully obtuse for no actual reason.

It's apparent that no one likes your option. So stick that in your backpack and mosey along.

Then just remove the whole tabard system, and replace it with customizable nameplates. Wouldn't it be better? Really...

VaranisArano

SirCritical wrote: »

Ajaxandriel wrote: »

I'm a bit disappointed with the new outfit creator, since we can not hide the guild tabard.

As I have many costumes, I never had problems to hide a tabard while letting the guild-tag display.

Now it's a shame we have to chose between -no tabard then no guild tag displaying -or guild tag displaying but outfit chest piece being hidden in the process...

(One may argue that, for the sake of roleplay, the guild emblem have to be shown, for anyone to be able to know the allegiance. But from the same roleplay perspective, I'd reply that an armband or a badge will indicate the allegiance the same way.)

So please, can we get added a "tabard slot" in the new outfit system ?

Let me suggest an ever-better option !
A tabard slot that can be cutomized !

This would cost the same (1000 or 2000 gold) and allow to fit the tabard with the character's theme. It would be usefull to roleplay sub-guild factions (since the "Units" system I proposed some time ago is not going to happen...)

I wrote this numerous times: if you have problems with showing your tabard, then DO NOT WEAR IT!

It was designed for showing your enthusiasm in your guild. If you want others know your faithfulness, show them your tabard, else put it in your backpack and move along.

Really....

You do realize that tabards cause certain motifs to glitch, right?

If I wear my tabard over my PVP gear, the chest piece turns pitch black. So I wear a costume over it because wearing glitched gear is no fun.

SirCritical

Mureel wrote: »

SirCritical wrote: »

Ajaxandriel wrote: »

I'm a bit disappointed with the new outfit creator, since we can not hide the guild tabard.

As I have many costumes, I never had problems to hide a tabard while letting the guild-tag display.

Now it's a shame we have to chose between -no tabard then no guild tag displaying -or guild tag displaying but outfit chest piece being hidden in the process...

(One may argue that, for the sake of roleplay, the guild emblem have to be shown, for anyone to be able to know the allegiance. But from the same roleplay perspective, I'd reply that an armband or a badge will indicate the allegiance the same way.)

So please, can we get added a "tabard slot" in the new outfit system ?

Let me suggest an ever-better option !
A tabard slot that can be cutomized !

This would cost the same (1000 or 2000 gold) and allow to fit the tabard with the character's theme. It would be usefull to roleplay sub-guild factions (since the "Units" system I proposed some time ago is not going to happen...)

I wrote this numerous times: if you have problems with showing your tabard, then DO NOT WEAR IT!

It was designed for showing your enthusiasm in your guild. If you want others know your faithfulness, show them your tabard, else put it in your backpack and move along.

Really....

Shhhh! JEEZ! People want to show their enthusiasm in their nameplate - where EVERYONE LOOKS!

More options = Good.

I never even SEE tabards unless I am at a guild trader, but I readily see peoples' guild names in their nameplate.

Stop being purposefully obtuse for no actual reason.

It's apparent that no one likes your option. So stick that in your backpack and mosey along.

Can't mosey, sorry. It's apparent that a few people surely support your opinions, and those who agree with mine, don't use those buttons

Mureel

SirCritical wrote: »

Mureel wrote: »

SirCritical wrote: »

Ajaxandriel wrote: »

I'm a bit disappointed with the new outfit creator, since we can not hide the guild tabard.

As I have many costumes, I never had problems to hide a tabard while letting the guild-tag display.

Now it's a shame we have to chose between -no tabard then no guild tag displaying -or guild tag displaying but outfit chest piece being hidden in the process...

(One may argue that, for the sake of roleplay, the guild emblem have to be shown, for anyone to be able to know the allegiance. But from the same roleplay perspective, I'd reply that an armband or a badge will indicate the allegiance the same way.)

So please, can we get added a "tabard slot" in the new outfit system ?

Let me suggest an ever-better option !
A tabard slot that can be cutomized !

This would cost the same (1000 or 2000 gold) and allow to fit the tabard with the character's theme. It would be usefull to roleplay sub-guild factions (since the "Units" system I proposed some time ago is not going to happen...)

I wrote this numerous times: if you have problems with showing your tabard, then DO NOT WEAR IT!

It was designed for showing your enthusiasm in your guild. If you want others know your faithfulness, show them your tabard, else put it in your backpack and move along.

Really....

Shhhh! JEEZ! People want to show their enthusiasm in their nameplate - where EVERYONE LOOKS!

More options = Good.

I never even SEE tabards unless I am at a guild trader, but I readily see peoples' guild names in their nameplate.

Stop being purposefully obtuse for no actual reason.

It's apparent that no one likes your option. So stick that in your backpack and mosey along.

Then just remove the whole tabard system, and replace it with customizable nameplates. Wouldn't it be better? Really...

More options = Better.

Why take something away from someone who does want it when it's apparent that the functionality to hide things already exists?

Really...

SirCritical

Voxicity wrote: »

+1 should have been a feature in the update tbh, hopefully gets added soon

Hopefully. With lots of other guild-life options.

SirCritical

Ajaxandriel wrote: »

I find your lack of understanding disturbing, @SirCritical
The enthusiasm and pride is meant to be weared by the guild tag, that is why I took the time to explain how one can show this enthusiasm using badge, armband or rosette... And I'm speaking as a guild GM that is free to modify the guild tabard motif as I want.
The matter here is the cosmetic fitting between the common tabard and each particular character with its own color theme and the need to display nice chest armor piece.

redspecter23 wrote: »

The more I think about it, the more I start thinking it would just be easier to add a drop down menu on the character sheet that allows you to select the guild name to show for your character. Just completely separate tabards from your visible guild name. If you choose to wear a tabard, it could simply overwrite this option with the name of the appropriate guild.

While a hide tabard option accomplishes a similar goal, it's a less elegant solution overall.

Really good idea, I have to admit!

More to this, I'd like to see guild-furnitures too.

Vahrokh

I'd actually like to see my tabard over my costume. As of now it's invisible. How do I show it?

Ajaxandriel

Still ongoing...

redspecter23 wrote: »

The more I think about it, the more I start thinking it would just be easier to add a drop down menu on the character sheet that allows you to select the guild name to show for your character. Just completely separate tabards from your visible guild name. If you choose to wear a tabard, it could simply overwrite this option with the name of the appropriate guild.

While a hide tabard option accomplishes a similar goal, it's a less elegant solution overall.

This is a simple and good idea!