Because her parents obviously already knew that she would run away someday and come back to be queen.HorrorShow wrote: »Aryenn Ayrenn runs away to have wild teenage sex parties
HorrorShow wrote: »But if they are so tradition bound, how could they let her become Queen without spending those years studying?
She just seems like the worst example of what the Altmer strive to be. No sense of responsibility, just coming back and screaming she gets to be queen cause she is entitled to it.
And she barely knows her own culture and people. She just goes through the steps to be crowned like appeasing the ancestors because she HAS to. Not because she actually respects the traditions.
HorrorShow wrote: »But the Factions don't do anything about the situation with Molag Bal. They just let the guilds deal with it.
So if Naemon was king, nothing would change except one less group bent on fighting for the Imperial Throne.
The Altmer would stay isolationist, and the Khajiit and Wood Elves would be non entities in the ongoing war.
It is insane to me to that someone who abandons her responsibilities and runs off to have a good time is allowed to walk back in and take the throne.
HorrorShow wrote: »The Altmer would stay isolationist, and the Khajiit and Wood Elves would be non entities in the ongoing war.
HorrorShow wrote: »There are plenty of female characters I like. Naryu comes to mind first thing.
But I hate Aryenn. She ran away from responsibility then came back right when dad died so she could claim power.
HorrorShow wrote: »But if they are so tradition bound, how could they let her become Queen without spending those years studying?
She just seems like the worst example of what the Altmer strive to be. No sense of responsibility, just coming back and screaming she gets to be queen cause she is entitled to it.
And she barely knows her own culture and people. She just goes through the steps to be crowned like appeasing the ancestors because she HAS to. Not because she actually respects the traditions.
HorrorShow wrote: »But if they are so tradition bound, how could they let her become Queen without spending those years studying?
She just seems like the worst example of what the Altmer strive to be. No sense of responsibility, just coming back and screaming she gets to be queen cause she is entitled to it.
And she barely knows her own culture and people. She just goes through the steps to be crowned like appeasing the ancestors because she HAS to. Not because she actually respects the traditions.
Yet out of the 3 leaders she is by far the most capable in every single way.
LickingHistSap wrote: »My main issue with Ayrenn is the fact she has no experience in war or leadership, and because of this she just lets the Aldmeri generals do whatever they want to the 'lesser' races.
HorrorShow wrote: »But the Factions don't do anything about the situation with Molag Bal. They just let the guilds deal with it.
So if Naemon was king, nothing would change except one less group bent on fighting for the Imperial Throne.
The Altmer would stay isolationist, and the Khajiit and Wood Elves would be non entities in the ongoing war.
It is insane to me to that someone who abandons her responsibilities and runs off to have a good time is allowed to walk back in and take the throne.
dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »
I would say it really depends. Harald Hadrada (Harald Sigurdsson) was a Viking King who had a wilder streak than his brothers. The family lost the throne and he ultimately became a Varangian Guard, Mercenary, and eventually a King. There is a lot of history summed up there but the point is that his campaigns made him a force to be reckoned with and gave him a honed army of loyal special forces. Think about this with respect to someone like Ayrenn and her Eyes of the Queen which she built all of those years Naemon was busy learning the art of how to fluff-his-hair-just-so or the proper dances one should make quietly in a secluded sepulcher with his dead ancestors. Pointless garbage. I believe the reason Ayrenn took over was she actually did have more than just flimsy political power.
VaranisArano wrote: »HorrorShow wrote: »But if they are so tradition bound, how could they let her become Queen without spending those years studying?
She just seems like the worst example of what the Altmer strive to be. No sense of responsibility, just coming back and screaming she gets to be queen cause she is entitled to it.
And she barely knows her own culture and people. She just goes through the steps to be crowned like appeasing the ancestors because she HAS to. Not because she actually respects the traditions.
Yet out of the 3 leaders she is by far the most capable in every single way.
Jorunn's a little hot-tempered and it doesn't help that he's absent for 3/5ths of the Pact questline and then spends half of the Eastmarch questline out of commission. he's pretty awesome once he's got his mojo back.
Emeric looks like he wants so badly to take a nap and leave everything in the capable hands of the Vestige and his advisors. That's pretty much what he does in Rivenspire and Alikr, and then in Bangkorai he's all active because he's trying to impress an old flame.
Ayrenn is by far the most present and active of the faction leaders and really benefits from the Dominion having the most cohesive storyline of the three factions, with excellent supporting characters that really sell the storyline. Gwaering in Malabal Tor remains my favorite of the Dominion NPCs.
HorrorShow wrote: »dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »
I would say it really depends. Harald Hadrada (Harald Sigurdsson) was a Viking King who had a wilder streak than his brothers. The family lost the throne and he ultimately became a Varangian Guard, Mercenary, and eventually a King. There is a lot of history summed up there but the point is that his campaigns made him a force to be reckoned with and gave him a honed army of loyal special forces. Think about this with respect to someone like Ayrenn and her Eyes of the Queen which she built all of those years Naemon was busy learning the art of how to fluff-his-hair-just-so or the proper dances one should make quietly in a secluded sepulcher with his dead ancestors. Pointless garbage. I believe the reason Ayrenn took over was she actually did have more than just flimsy political power.
She shows up with her own outside group of loyal secret police to ensure her claim to power and kill all citizens that speak out against her.
I withdraw my comment about sleeping with the High Priest. Pretty sure now she had Razum dar kidnap his family and threaten to kill them if he didn't support her claim.
dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »
Well the issue would have been up in the air anyway and caused quite the stir. She has the rightful claim without the training and Naemon has the training a proper Altmer should have. The fact she has a paramilitary force backing her certainly doesn't hurt and I'm sure military advisors would have had a say. This is at least what went through my mind as I played the story. Much of Elder Scrolls games though are in the eye of the beholder and require reading between the lines on things. This lack of hamfisted storytelling is something I appreciate about the series. (Although I do find that Naryu has become a bit hamfisted).
HorrorShow wrote: »dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »
Well the issue would have been up in the air anyway and caused quite the stir. She has the rightful claim without the training and Naemon has the training a proper Altmer should have. The fact she has a paramilitary force backing her certainly doesn't hurt and I'm sure military advisors would have had a say. This is at least what went through my mind as I played the story. Much of Elder Scrolls games though are in the eye of the beholder and require reading between the lines on things. This lack of hamfisted storytelling is something I appreciate about the series. (Although I do find that Naryu has become a bit hamfisted).
But she doesn't have the rightful claim anymore. She left and the King declared Naemon the heir. She was not presumed dead, she had her claim stripped from her for abandoning her people and duties.
HorrorShow wrote: »dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »
Well the issue would have been up in the air anyway and caused quite the stir. She has the rightful claim without the training and Naemon has the training a proper Altmer should have. The fact she has a paramilitary force backing her certainly doesn't hurt and I'm sure military advisors would have had a say. This is at least what went through my mind as I played the story. Much of Elder Scrolls games though are in the eye of the beholder and require reading between the lines on things. This lack of hamfisted storytelling is something I appreciate about the series. (Although I do find that Naryu has become a bit hamfisted).
But she doesn't have the rightful claim anymore. She left and the King declared Naemon the heir. She was not presumed dead, she had her claim stripped from her for abandoning her people and duties.
HorrorShow wrote: »Is the High Justiciar in the game? Need to pay him/her a visit.
*preps Blade of Woe*