Do Hawkeye and Marksman sets bonuses stack?

krachall

I have two nearly identical pvp characters -- one EP and one DC.

The DC character wears Morag Tong + Hawkeye, all impen.
The EP wears Marksman + Hawkeye all divines (with Warrior Mundus)

In testing with a friend, I was seeing no difference at all in Snipe damage between the two. This shocked me as the second character with full divines AND two separate bow set bonuses should do noticeably more damage. Then it dawned on me: maybe the two bow damage bonuses don't stack?

So I changed the EP character to Morag Tong + Marksman (still all divines) and got about a 10% damage increase.

I was wondering why Alcast's bow gank build didn't recommend running both bow sets (he reco's using Morag Tong + one of the bow sets. I think I may have discovered why.

DDuke

krachall wrote: »

I have two nearly identical pvp characters -- one EP and one DC.

The DC character wears Morag Tong + Hawkeye, all impen.
The EP wears Marksman + Hawkeye all divines (with Warrior Mundus)

In testing with a friend, I was seeing no difference at all in Snipe damage between the two. This shocked me as the second character with full divines AND two separate bow set bonuses should do noticeably more damage. Then it dawned on me: maybe the two bow damage bonuses don't stack?

So I changed the EP character to Morag Tong + Marksman (still all divines) and got about a 10% damage increase.

I was wondering why Alcast's bow gank build didn't recommend running both bow sets (he reco's using Morag Tong + one of the bow sets. I think I may have discovered why.

They do stack, but percentage damage modifiers get bundled up with all other percentage dmg modifiers - so it's not really "+5%" or "+8%" damage you're seeing.

For example, let's say you get 22% direct dmg from CPs & 13% dmg from Mighty, then your damage modifier with Hawkeye, Marksman, Minor Berserk buff & Long Shots 12% (max range) would be:
[22(Master-at-Arms)+13(Mighty)+8(Minor Berserk)+8(Marksman)+5(Hawkeye)+12]=68%

So that's the percentage modifier which gets added to tooltip damage.


The reason why Morag Tong is so good is because it increases the damage the target takes. This means it'll buff your already buffed up damage & actually provides +10% damage.

Unless you're using Asylum Bow of course, in that case it's bundled up with the Asylum buff (50+10=60) as it also increases dmg target takes.

krachall

I do have an asylum bow but don't use it. Is it a good bow gank weapon? I'm currently 5xMorag Tong, 5xMarksman, and 1xKraghs. Could drop Kraghs for a set piece and use asylum. But I don't have acid spray in my combo currently. Would be easy enough to add though -- assuming it's effective.

exiars10

Relevant thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/381412/sniper-stamina-nightblade-pvp-build-clockwork-city-patch

As I understand, you need Master bow, too for that combo.