Does console need combat metrics add on?

Somber97866

On the pc you can get an add on that shows combat metrics. Now console needs something like this. Maybe not the exact add on but atleast a way of telling how much dps/heals/support team members provide in a raid. Does anyone agree/disagree?

Danksta

Personally, I would love combat metrics. Test dummies are nice for practicing rotations and tweaking builds but I'd love to know how good/poor I'm performing in a live raid situation.

phileunderx2

Would be nice.

Kingslayer513

I can't imagine theory crafting without it tbh
Should be a QoL addition.

pod88kk

Hell to the yeah we do

NewBlacksmurf

Not needed.
Some may want it

MattT1988

I’d like to see mine. But not the rest of the groups.

Jayman1000

Console does not need. Console will conform to standard and remain content. Like a good peasant.

Just kidding of course. Consoles are great, not bad.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

consoles were meant for single players...no wonder they always the last on everything.

Apache_Kid

I would love it on Xbox.

Will we get it?

No.

supaskrub

But what about the extra overhead?.. I dare say combat metrics on console would be just too much especially in a raid environment where consoles can struggle anyway. I'm speaking as a console player also, I would like something like this but if it hinders performance then its a big fat no.

Bhaal5

Perfect tool for more trolls, thats what consoles really need. More trolls

Nihility42

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

I can't imagine theory crafting without it tbh
Should be a QoL addition.

Yeah, even when I use the dummy, I always check the data I get com Combat Metrics to see where I can improve. It tells you so much more. Where you can improve your buff uptime, what skills are helping the most, etc.

Somber97866

I think a lot of problems with console comes from the consoles internet provider (ie: xbox live) but also these ZOS ppl are probablypc geeks and not console guru's

Somber97866

So now I wonder why I haven't gotten a lot of feedback on this?

geonsocal

i enjoy the visual aspect of the game (except when it lags)...so, i prefer a clean ui - compass, resource bars and, cuz, i play so many different characters I need to play with my ability bar - would like to be able to phase that out...

jaschacasadiob16_ESO

Somber97866 wrote: »

So now I wonder why I haven't gotten a lot of feedback on this?

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KingYogi415

YES!

PlagueSD

Consoles should have addons, period. I don't know how you play with the default UI. I, at the MINIMUM, need a minimap in game.

MilwaukeeScott

Yes

Latin

@Solinur

Lol. Any thoughts?

One_ofMany

We definitely need this. Maybe it can be toggled so people who don't care don't need to run it and save on lag.
I've never actually seen lag on console Xbox one yet. Is this really a problem? Maybe it's your internet speed...

Beardimus

100% NO to add ons.

Base game functionality or not at all.

Still unsure its needed, or impact it could have to group play in terms of more elitism / snobbery etc.

I get its value. And I guess for my PvP build testing burst would be good, but I think they could add all that to the dummy.

Private battlegrounds would also give A great place to test stuff for PvP

Bhaal5

Beardimus wrote: »

100% NO to add ons.

Base game functionality or not at all.

Still unsure its needed, or impact it could have to group play in terms of more elitism / snobbery etc.

I get its value. And I guess for my PvP build testing burst would be goo, but I think they could add all that to the dummy.

Probate battlegrounds would also give. A great place to test stuff for PvP

Agree, if a game "needs" addons. Just means theres a l2p factor along with broken underdeveloped game design

SRASinister

One_ofMany wrote: »

We definitely need this. Maybe it can be toggled so people who don't care don't need to run it and save on lag.
I've never actually seen lag on console Xbox one yet. Is this really a problem? Maybe it's your internet speed...

It's not really any ones internet speed when almost every single player in cyrodiil calls out lag. Haderus used to be nicknamed lagerus and vivec is just pure zerging and lag for everyone.

Enslaved

I am "PC mater race", and I think consoles deserve to have combat metrics and improve their rotations.

Prof_Bawbag

PlagueSD wrote: »

Consoles should have addons, period. I don't know how you play with the default UI. I, at the MINIMUM, need a minimap in game.

Not gonna happen unless ZoS sell/add them as an official add on. Which makes me think it will never happen. Bad enough the hoops Bethesda had to jump through to get add ons for both Skyrim and FO4 on the PS4. I highly doubt ZoS would do it considering all these add ons are a bit meh in the grand scheme of things.

Nifty2g

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not needed.
Some may want it

Very needed, you are playing an MMO that is heavily based around calculations, buffs and debuffs with fast paced combat.

The fact Combat Metrics is not in the base game is incredibly odd, ZOS should be working at including this for players to look at for the end of combat, how else would players optimize their CP without having addons like these. These types of addons can also find bugs within skills.

ZOS is lacking severely in this department, it shouldn't be an addon, should be in the base game for both PC and Console.

Izaki

Beardimus wrote: »

100% NO to add ons.

Base game functionality or not at all.

Still unsure its needed, or impact it could have to group play in terms of more elitism / snobbery etc.

I get its value. And I guess for my PvP build testing burst would be good, but I think they could add all that to the dummy.

Private battlegrounds would also give A great place to test stuff for PvP

Spoken like someone who doesn't understand how much better the game becomes with addons.

Console players are all freaked out by stuff like Miat's or other addons that tell you to block or dodge or interrupt. They loooove saying that PC players are terrible and getting carried by addons.

Console players are also all freaked out that they won't have the excuse of "but we don't have addons, that's why we are getting worse scores than on PC".

Trust me on those ones. Every time I log onto my Xbox account, I never fail to get one of those. Truth is, things like Combat Metrics, proper buff trackers like Srendarr open up so many possiblities to grow as a player that the fact that ZOS still haven't introduced the above into the base game kinda baffles me.

SRASinister

Izaki wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

100% NO to add ons.

Base game functionality or not at all.

Still unsure its needed, or impact it could have to group play in terms of more elitism / snobbery etc.

I get its value. And I guess for my PvP build testing burst would be good, but I think they could add all that to the dummy.

Private battlegrounds would also give A great place to test stuff for PvP

Spoken like someone who doesn't understand how much better the game becomes with addons.

Console players are all freaked out by stuff like Miat's or other addons that tell you to block or dodge or interrupt. They loooove saying that PC players are terrible and getting carried by addons.

Console players are also all freaked out that they won't have the excuse of "but we don't have addons, that's why we are getting worse scores than on PC".

Trust me on those ones. Every time I log onto my Xbox account, I never fail to get one of those. Truth is, things like Combat Metrics, proper buff trackers like Srendarr open up so many possiblities to grow as a player that the fact that ZOS still haven't introduced the above into the base game kinda baffles me.

But on xbox NA we really haven't been getting less scores on pretty much any pve content tbh. Some add ons would be nice to have but none are really that necessary. In fact some of the add ons seem to become to much of a crutch. A couple of my friends who went over not to mention a streamer that went to pc said that the general population in cyrodiil have a slower reaction time applying buffs in general compared to the console player that has to do it quickly due to lag spikes that occur.

Sure it might help some people grow as players, but it might be counter productive with others. The only reason I would want add ons would be to test gear numbers. So I wouldn't mind combat metrics, but some add-ons like the miats really just dumb down pvp too much.

Somber97866

My problem that most of us console ppl know dummy dps and grouped dungeon dps are so different. I'd like to see some of these stupid stam guys faces when they look at overall dps in an entire raid and see my mag dps higher than there's. Would just like to shut the glotting dps " Mack daddies" up for awhile.