Announcement of Chapter II - when?

MyKillv2.0

Morrowind was announced earlier than it should have because the company knew it had.... a piece of material that would cause massive excitement. They even announced it earlier so that they could have a Superbowl Ad to generate hype from people who do not play the game but played TES: Morrowind. Outside of a Skyrim expansion, Morrowind is more than likely the biggest expansion they could release that would generate excitement with the causal player base. The Deadric Wars expansion may be awesome and maybe even better in quality. However it will not generate the same type of buzz as Morrowind.

This is why, I am even more dumbfounded that they choose to roll out their "major balance changes" at the same time as Morrowind last year. People should have been bouncing off the walls excited over the new content. Instead, they were angry. They were holding funerals for their Templar and rag quitting in their parent's basement, vowing to never play their nightblades again.

I don't mean to sound like a downer. I am excited over new content and Deadric Wars expansion may be even better than Morrowind (which was good in my opinion but not as good as Orc Land expansion). However Zo$ realizes what they are sitting on and realizes that the expansion will not cause as much of excitement as what they had with Morrowind.

Just my thoughts.

JD2013

MyKillv2.0 wrote: »

Morrowind was announced earlier than it should have because the company knew it had.... a piece of material that would cause massive excitement. They even announced it earlier so that they could have a Superbowl Ad to generate hype from people who do not play the game but played TES: Morrowind. Outside of a Skyrim expansion, Morrowind is more than likely the biggest expansion they could release that would generate excitement with the causal player base. The Deadric Wars expansion may be awesome and maybe even better in quality. However it will not generate the same type of buzz as Morrowind.

This is why, I am even more dumbfounded that they choose to roll out their "major balance changes" at the same time as Morrowind last year. People should have been bouncing off the walls excited over the new content. Instead, they were angry. They were holding funerals for their Templar and rag quitting in their parent's basement, vowing to never play their nightblades again.

I don't mean to sound like a downer. I am excited over new content and Deadric Wars expansion may be even better than Morrowind (which was good in my opinion but not as good as Orc Land expansion). However Zo$ realizes what they are sitting on and realizes that the expansion will not cause as much of excitement as what they had with Morrowind.

Just my thoughts.

Depends what it is.

Morrowind had nostalgia. Absolutely. But we have no real idea of what Chapter II will bring beyond likely Summerset.

How about we wait and see what the content is before stating it won't cause excitement?

Seraphayel

JD2013 wrote: »

MyKillv2.0 wrote: »

Morrowind was announced earlier than it should have because the company knew it had.... a piece of material that would cause massive excitement. They even announced it earlier so that they could have a Superbowl Ad to generate hype from people who do not play the game but played TES: Morrowind. Outside of a Skyrim expansion, Morrowind is more than likely the biggest expansion they could release that would generate excitement with the causal player base. The Deadric Wars expansion may be awesome and maybe even better in quality. However it will not generate the same type of buzz as Morrowind.

This is why, I am even more dumbfounded that they choose to roll out their "major balance changes" at the same time as Morrowind last year. People should have been bouncing off the walls excited over the new content. Instead, they were angry. They were holding funerals for their Templar and rag quitting in their parent's basement, vowing to never play their nightblades again.

I don't mean to sound like a downer. I am excited over new content and Deadric Wars expansion may be even better than Morrowind (which was good in my opinion but not as good as Orc Land expansion). However Zo$ realizes what they are sitting on and realizes that the expansion will not cause as much of excitement as what they had with Morrowind.

Just my thoughts.

Depends what it is.

Morrowind had nostalgia. Absolutely. But we have no real idea of what Chapter II will bring beyond likely Summerset.

How about we wait and see what the content is before stating it won't cause excitement?

Pretty sure Morrowind was the best what they could do for "hype levels" because of nostalgia. I doubt any other setting will create as much buzz as Morrowind did.

JD2013

Seraphayel wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

MyKillv2.0 wrote: »

Morrowind was announced earlier than it should have because the company knew it had.... a piece of material that would cause massive excitement. They even announced it earlier so that they could have a Superbowl Ad to generate hype from people who do not play the game but played TES: Morrowind. Outside of a Skyrim expansion, Morrowind is more than likely the biggest expansion they could release that would generate excitement with the causal player base. The Deadric Wars expansion may be awesome and maybe even better in quality. However it will not generate the same type of buzz as Morrowind.

This is why, I am even more dumbfounded that they choose to roll out their "major balance changes" at the same time as Morrowind last year. People should have been bouncing off the walls excited over the new content. Instead, they were angry. They were holding funerals for their Templar and rag quitting in their parent's basement, vowing to never play their nightblades again.

I don't mean to sound like a downer. I am excited over new content and Deadric Wars expansion may be even better than Morrowind (which was good in my opinion but not as good as Orc Land expansion). However Zo$ realizes what they are sitting on and realizes that the expansion will not cause as much of excitement as what they had with Morrowind.

Just my thoughts.

Depends what it is.

Morrowind had nostalgia. Absolutely. But we have no real idea of what Chapter II will bring beyond likely Summerset.

How about we wait and see what the content is before stating it won't cause excitement?

Pretty sure Morrowind was the best what they could do for "hype levels" because of nostalgia. I doubt any other setting will create as much buzz as Morrowind did.

Absolutely agree for nostalgia points.

But if, for example, it’s Summerset, I’m excited to go somewhere that we haven’t seen properly in an ES game. We saw it in Arena of course, but it’ll be great to see it as a proper and fully rendered and fully realised zone.

Lysette

My guess is, that TES VI will not come out anytime soon and when it will come out, it will not be on the continent Nirn, in order to not interfere with further development of ESO. So a possible location beside Somerset isles is Elsweyr - I personally would be much more excited to see the home province of the Khajiiti and what their life and lifestyle is like. We were teased so much in Skyrim by every Khajiit caravan talking about the warm sands of Elsweyr - well, that is my guess about the next chapter.

We have desert regions already, but desert is not equal to any other desert - there are many forms of deserts and semi-deserts. Ok we have seen another variant of semi-desert in Hew's Bane, which was awesome in my books, I like these abstract and unreal looks of it (they are in fact not unrealistic, there are formations like this on earth).

So my guess is - Elsweyr.

Lysette

Hm, and as far as a new "weapon" type goes - how about martial arts - in TES:Morrowind we had unarmed and unarmored.

barbarian340

i pray for a new class

red_emu

You need to buy chapter announcement tokens found in crown crates

Seraphayel

Lysette wrote: »

My guess is, that TES VI will not come out anytime soon and when it will come out, it will not be on the continent Nirn, in order to not interfere with further development of ESO. So a possible location beside Somerset isles is Elsweyr...

So my guess is - Elsweyr.

I'd say Summerset is a safe bet. Morrowind was datamined months ahead of the announcement (at least the Vvardenfell map and the Warden skill lines). The same happened this time with the Summerset assets / map and the Spellcrafting things. If we're not going to Summerset and don't get Spellcrafting I will be very surprised.

Robo_Hobo

My guess is March 2nd or 9th, and the prequel quest for Summerset with Vanus will be released with the next holiday event.

Elsonso

Seraphayel wrote: »

Pretty sure Morrowind was the best what they could do for "hype levels" because of nostalgia. I doubt any other setting will create as much buzz as Morrowind did.

The complete Skyrim would do it. Especially if they went back and updated Eastmarch and The Rift at the same time.

Lysette wrote: »

My guess is, that TES VI will not come out anytime soon and when it will come out, it will not be on the continent Nirn, in order to not interfere with further development of ESO. So a possible location beside Somerset isles is Elsweyr - I personally would be much more excited to see the home province of the Khajiiti and what their life and lifestyle is like. We were teased so much in Skyrim by every Khajiit caravan talking about the warm sands of Elsweyr - well, that is my guess about the next chapter.

Well... Nirn is the world, Tamriel is the continent. BGS could branch out and explore one of the other continents. They could set TES 6 on Akavir or Atmora to get away from ESO. Doing that would be a radical change for them. It would pretty much toss out all of the existing lore, probably including the races. It would seem like a new game in a new world. I don't know that they would want to do that. It would be risky.

There are really only three places on Tamriel no Elder Scrolls game has taken us that is large enough for a TES main title, and all three are suitable spots for a Chapter. These would be Black Marsh, Elsweyr, and Summerset Isle.

I think that ZOS will use all three of them, to be honest. Unlike a single player game, where it might be a decade between releases, ZOS needs room to expand. An active MMO will suck up Tamriel is a relatively short amount of time. If ZOS wants to continue to release annual Chapters (will they?) and zone DLC, then they could be largely done with Tamriel by the end of 2021.

Several things remain to be seen. Will BGS overlap with ZOS? They can, if they want. From a development perspective, if they wanted to trim the cycle and get TES 6 out sooner, they could set TES 6 in Summerset and age forward what ZOS builds. I doubt they will do this, but one never knows.

Edit: Forgot to add the question of whether all new Chapters will be Vvardenfell sized plots of land. ZOS might decide not to go big. That will extend the life of Tamriel, if they are interested in such things.

Jura23

OT: any idea when do they put here new update patch notes? It goes live tommorrow if Im not mistaken.

Elsonso

Jura23 wrote: »

OT: any idea when do they put here new update patch notes? It goes live tommorrow if Im not mistaken.

Tomorrow, about 3/4ths of the way through the maintenance.

Bbsample197

I maybe missed an announcement, but did ZoS says that chapters will be release annually? i mean we might not get any chapters this year but idk lol, i hope we do!

Elsonso

Bbsample197 wrote: »

I maybe missed an announcement, but did ZoS says that chapters will be release annually? i mean we might not get any chapters this year but idk lol, i hope we do!

The original statement:

"we'll have a DLC in the first quarter of each year, a Chapter in the second quarter, a dungeon-based DLC in the third quarter, and a DLC in the 4th quarter."

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25913

That statement does not prevent a "dungeon-based DLC" in the first quarter, so we don't know if they have changed the schedule for this year.

Edit: And this is what they say for this year:

"I'm very happy to say that you can expect three more DLCs and a full new Chapter for ESO in 2018. "

Edit 2: (and yes, that is an odd statement that sounds like there as a possibility that we wouldn't get that)

Seraphayel

lordrichter wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Pretty sure Morrowind was the best what they could do for "hype levels" because of nostalgia. I doubt any other setting will create as much buzz as Morrowind did.

The complete Skyrim would do it. Especially if they went back and updated Eastmarch and The Rift at the same time.

I didn't mention Skyrim because we already have Skyrim. There won't be any Chapter for it especially not after we already had a "Skyrim" dungeon DLC. The Skyrim in game will be the only Skyrim in ESO.

Seraphayel

lordrichter wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

My guess is, that TES VI will not come out anytime soon and when it will come out, it will not be on the continent Nirn, in order to not interfere with further development of ESO. So a possible location beside Somerset isles is Elsweyr - I personally would be much more excited to see the home province of the Khajiiti and what their life and lifestyle is like. We were teased so much in Skyrim by every Khajiit caravan talking about the warm sands of Elsweyr - well, that is my guess about the next chapter.

There are really only three places on Tamriel no Elder Scrolls game has taken us that is large enough for a TES main title, and all three are suitable spots for a Chapter. These would be Black Marsh, Elsweyr, and Summerset Isle.

I think that ZOS will use all three of them, to be honest. Unlike a single player game, where it might be a decade between releases, ZOS needs room to expand. An active MMO will suck up Tamriel is a relatively short amount of time. If ZOS wants to continue to release annual Chapters (will they?) and zone DLC, then they could be largely done with Tamriel by the end of 2021.

Several things remain to be seen. Will BGS overlap with ZOS? They can, if they want. From a development perspective, if they wanted to trim the cycle and get TES 6 out sooner, they could set TES 6 in Summerset and age forward what ZOS builds. I doubt they will do this, but one never knows.

Edit: Forgot to add the question of whether all new Chapters will be Vvardenfell sized plots of land. ZOS might decide not to go big. That will extend the life of Tamriel, if they are interested in such things.

Well, there's still Murkmire and that's located in Blackmarsh. So a Chapter there could happen (Murkmire was announced in 2014...)

If we don't get TES in November this year it'll be November next year. They won't wait any longer, it's been 7 (8) years since Skyrim.

I really doubt they're going to release smaller Chapters, if they do they need to reduce the price a lot. Even Morrowind was highly overpriced (and I bought the CE) for what it offered in the end.

With the datamining Summerset for 2018 seems like a safe bet (unless they release the long lost Murkmire).

idk

Osteos wrote: »

I think the chapter will be in Q3 since we are getting the Dungeon dlc in Q1

I too am very curious what it will contain. I didn't mind the price for Morrowind because it had a new class and battlegrounds. So $20 for the zone and $10 each for battlegrounds and the Warden Class. I do not see them releasing another class so soon. I am unwilling to pay $40 for just a zone. We shall see.

Not likely. It would be extremely likely Zos will keep the same rotation since they are doing 3 DLCs and a chapter a year.

Elsonso

Seraphayel wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Pretty sure Morrowind was the best what they could do for "hype levels" because of nostalgia. I doubt any other setting will create as much buzz as Morrowind did.

The complete Skyrim would do it. Especially if they went back and updated Eastmarch and The Rift at the same time.

I didn't mention Skyrim because we already have Skyrim. There won't be any Chapter for it especially not after we already had a "Skyrim" dungeon DLC. The Skyrim in game will be the only Skyrim in ESO.

I think that they will finish Skyrim as a Chapter.

Seraphayel wrote: »

If we don't get TES in November this year it'll be November next year. They won't wait any longer, it's been 7 (8) years since Skyrim.

No. BGS has a lineup of games that they will be rolling out, TES being the last of them. This has been confirmed multiple times. The first of those games has not even been announced.

I think TES 6 is on the order of a decade away.

Vanthras79

I wonder if @ZOS_RichLambert has anything to say about the /hype!?

Seraphayel

lordrichter wrote: »

No. BGS has a lineup of games that they will be rolling out, TES being the last of them. This has been confirmed multiple times. The first of those games has not even been announced.

I think TES 6 is on the order of a decade away.

I missed the news about this some days ago but checked it right now.

What kind of games does Bethesda Game Studios develop though? Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Which two major releases should happen before TES VI? I mean Fallout 5? It's only been 2.5 years now since Fallout 4... don't know why they delay TES VI so much.

Darkonflare15

Seraphayel wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

No. BGS has a lineup of games that they will be rolling out, TES being the last of them. This has been confirmed multiple times. The first of those games has not even been announced.

I think TES 6 is on the order of a decade away.

I missed the news about this some days ago but checked it right now.

What kind of games does Bethesda Game Studios develop though? Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Which two major releases should happen before TES VI? I mean Fallout 5? It's only been 2.5 years now since Fallout 4... don't know why they delay TES VI so much.

They are working on a new game that is not Elder scrolls or Fallout.

Seraphayel

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

No. BGS has a lineup of games that they will be rolling out, TES being the last of them. This has been confirmed multiple times. The first of those games has not even been announced.

I think TES 6 is on the order of a decade away.

I missed the news about this some days ago but checked it right now.

What kind of games does Bethesda Game Studios develop though? Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Which two major releases should happen before TES VI? I mean Fallout 5? It's only been 2.5 years now since Fallout 4... don't know why they delay TES VI so much.

They are working on a new game that is not Elder scrolls or Fallout.

Yeah but that's just one. What's the other then? As I said, Fallout 5 seems further away then TES VI...

Elsonso

Seraphayel wrote: »

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

No. BGS has a lineup of games that they will be rolling out, TES being the last of them. This has been confirmed multiple times. The first of those games has not even been announced.

I think TES 6 is on the order of a decade away.

I missed the news about this some days ago but checked it right now.

What kind of games does Bethesda Game Studios develop though? Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Which two major releases should happen before TES VI? I mean Fallout 5? It's only been 2.5 years now since Fallout 4... don't know why they delay TES VI so much.

They are working on a new game that is not Elder scrolls or Fallout.

Yeah but that's just one. What's the other then? As I said, Fallout 5 seems further away then TES VI...

Sounds like they are working on three games sequentially, two that are not TES or Fallout, followed by TES.

While all this is happening, ZOS will be gobbling up Tamriel.

zaria

Seraphayel wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

My guess is, that TES VI will not come out anytime soon and when it will come out, it will not be on the continent Nirn, in order to not interfere with further development of ESO. So a possible location beside Somerset isles is Elsweyr...

So my guess is - Elsweyr.

I'd say Summerset is a safe bet. Morrowind was datamined months ahead of the announcement (at least the Vvardenfell map and the Warden skill lines). The same happened this time with the Summerset assets / map and the Spellcrafting things. If we're not going to Summerset and don't get Spellcrafting I will be very surprised.

yes, say summerset is pretty given because of data mining and the hints given in CWC.

Now they need some bonus content: Morrowind had warden, battlegrounds and an trial.
Spell crafting would be an nice bonus. I say an good chance for another trial bringing it up to 7.

Now spell crafting could be for later release like the Khajiit tail turf who some npc have in cwc but we don't have, it was in collections back in Morrowind PTS, only downside with it is that it don't match hair or fur color, same with argonian tail spikes.
On the other hand spell crafting is an major hype element and fits in an chapter.

Vanthras79

Me: I wantz to know the date!!

ZOS: [poker face]

#Soon

Seraphayel

zaria wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

My guess is, that TES VI will not come out anytime soon and when it will come out, it will not be on the continent Nirn, in order to not interfere with further development of ESO. So a possible location beside Somerset isles is Elsweyr...

So my guess is - Elsweyr.

I'd say Summerset is a safe bet. Morrowind was datamined months ahead of the announcement (at least the Vvardenfell map and the Warden skill lines). The same happened this time with the Summerset assets / map and the Spellcrafting things. If we're not going to Summerset and don't get Spellcrafting I will be very surprised.

yes, say summerset is pretty given because of data mining and the hints given in CWC.

Now they need some bonus content: Morrowind had warden, battlegrounds and an trial.
Spell crafting would be an nice bonus. I say an good chance for another trial bringing it up to 7.

Now spell crafting could be for later release like the Khajiit tail turf who some npc have in cwc but we don't have, it was in collections back in Morrowind PTS, only downside with it is that it don't match hair or fur color, same with argonian tail spikes.
On the other hand spell crafting is an major hype element and fits in an chapter.

Well, I'd say:

Morrowind -> Summerset
Warden -> Spellcrafting
Trial -> Trial (maybe one or two dungeons instead)
Battlegrounds --> ? (maybe some large scale battlegrounds? 12vs12vs12 or so?)

LadyAstrum

I'm hoping for a spring announcement.

Elsonso

LadyAstrum wrote: »

I'm hoping for a spring announcement.

Lots of people are. Sadly, the ground hog saw his shadow.

Vivecc

I like speculating, not so much about the when it will be announced, but more on the what it will contain.
As the spellcrafting was first came to the public mind i was excited, reminded me of the old TES games, but i can see that it has to be done a diffrent way in our TESO. maybe it will give us the option to summon a bone colossus instead of an atronach... make spells ( and stamina abilities)more individual looking.
But maybe its not spellcrafting....but something bigger
For me every dlc was a widening of the game world, thieves guild and DB added more depth to it... wrothgar showed new lands...Morrowind chapter was a well made journey with a nostalgic touch....but what i missed so far was a continuation of the gameworld into the future...
Not a far future, but we have beaten Molag Bal... things changed already... but still theres the anchors active...and aside from some smaller clues dropped in conversations.. no real evolvement. They have made the gameworld whole with 1T, maybe we can split it up again...
You have reached this and that achievement...you have progressed in the story.. now you enter the next chapter ( literally) and the world will be changed....no more anchors to destroy, but new challenges await.

what you think about such changes ? possible ?, good idea? will never happen ?