The Secret of DC 1vXing Power! How do they play without regen?

Prince_of_all_Pugs

ShadowProc wrote: »

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

How come so many elite stam based DC 1vXers are able to play with under 800 stam regen? Its crazy, you see so0000 many of them, that are able to sustain constant attacks and still like dodge roll like 20 times , there has to be more to this then heavy attack weaving. What is the secret?

Ask Kodi, Jules, Chief, etc...... They will hook you up with a great build!

is the chief engine build still viable?

CyrusArya

Joy_Division wrote: »

It's not.

It's a lot of "practice," which amounts to willingly subjecting yourself to near insurmountable odds and fights you cannot win. This results in a lot of heavily edited and selected clips that make it to Youtube, which inspire people to copy these builds - though not the whole "practicing thing" = and leads to disappointment when many of these same people wonder why they can't replicate those videos.

Speaking to the practice bit, while heavy attacking is a major factor, it is just one piece of the puzzle. In theory, the best builds will have the least amount of feasible sustain so as to compromise as little on damage as possible. The better you are as a player, the less regen you need. What does better mean in this context? Situational awarness, efficient game play, preemptively plotting out a fight as it happens, buff management, precision in attacks, target prioritizarion, line of sight/kiting capabilities, etc. In essence, you sustain on low regen by getting gud.

Equally compelling of an arguement however is this idea that it’s just cheat engine. The preferred argumentative hand waving technique for baddies all around the world.

Asgari

I generally play with max everything. you just turn the slider to max.

Yubarius

Anrose wrote: »

enzoisadog wrote: »

Your sustain is based on your playstyle. I run almost 4k stam regen fully buffed.

Yeah, but have you tried heavy attack weaving? I’ve heard it’s a thing.

Ah, yes indeed sir. Though I think you are missing a key skill often overlooked, heavy attack between skills. Not sure if it's been mentioned yet.

TCervantes

Not sure if someone already mentioned

heavy attack weaving!

Fasold666

so many wrong answers here...

heavy attack weaving is the way to go tbh

DeadlyRecluse

Fasold666 wrote: »

so many wrong answers here...

heavy attack weaving is the way to go tbh

I've found that the tactic you describe is great while zerging, but really you should work on sneaking in the occasionally heavy attack if you want to improve. Just my 2cents.

Fasold666

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Fasold666 wrote: »

so many wrong answers here...

heavy attack weaving is the way to go tbh

I've found that the tactic you describe is great while zerging, but really you should work on sneaking in the occasionally heavy attack if you want to improve. Just my 2cents.

True, that could be a valid option. But I think you should combine it with... idk something like heavy attacking weaving or so. Personally, I heavy attack weave between my heavy attacks and follow up with a heavy attack for execute. That usually works.

Sixty5

I heard that if you animation cancel your heavy weaves it negates the cost of abilities

DeadlyRecluse

Sixty5 wrote: »

I heard that if you animation cancel your heavy weaves it negates the cost of abilities

It takes practice, but you can animation cancel your heavy attacks with dodgerolls, and animation cancel your dodgerolls with heavy attacks. Truly a thing of beauty.

Izaki

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Asmael wrote: »

I'll add Champion points to it. Unchained passive and all that cost reduction truly adds a lot to it.

and heavy attack weaving.

I was gonna say heavy attack weaving but then I realised that pretty much everyone will deny the obvious fact that its heavy attack weaving.

Sixty5

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Sixty5 wrote: »

I heard that if you animation cancel your heavy weaves it negates the cost of abilities

It takes practice, but you can animation cancel your heavy attacks with dodgerolls, and animation cancel your dodgerolls with heavy attacks. Truly a thing of beauty.

And if you are really good, you can weave heavy attacks into the combo in order to get some resources back

Im_MegaDeath

This thread gave me an STD @rhage

usmcjdking

Conversely, you can attack heavies in between heavy attacking for additional resources so you can stack more shuffle.

Chakei

Has anyone mentioned heavy attack weaving yet?

Just checking.

zyk

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Curragraigue

Simple you just press the super secret DC button. Sssh super secret so I'll whisper it. Heavy attack weaving

ToRelax

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Heavy attack weaving is so useful specifically for the elite stam based DC 1vXers because stamina weapon heavy attack channels are significantly shorter than staff heavy attack channels.

Also no one 1vXs on stam characters on AD and EP, clearly.

Heavy attacks don't actually work on AD/EP toons, unfortunately.

Must be an NA thing. On EU, they just weave heavy attacks.

Biro123

Apparently, you can heavy attack a resource till you get continuous attack - then you can continuous-heavy-attack for more resources!

Lord_Hev

Wait i'm confused. Do you heavy attack weave before heavy attack weaving? Or heavy attack weave -after- heavy attack weaving?

Adenoma

Heavy attack weave during your heavy attack weaving.

GaunterODim

Anazasi

When you figure out how to distinguish skill from CE please let ZOS know. They need this help more than anyone else.

lao

why does no1 ever think of the light attacks???

DeadlyRecluse

lao wrote: »

why does no1 ever think of the light attacks???

You get that nonsense out of this thread.

lao

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

lao wrote: »

why does no1 ever think of the light attacks???

You get that nonsense out of this thread.

ok

Lexxypwns

@lao https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/391965/the-problem-with-shieldbreaker/p1 there's a thread about light attacks

Leandor

I love this thread. Hereby, it is declared mandatory for any player.

lao

Lexxypwns wrote: »

@lao https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/391965/the-problem-with-shieldbreaker/p1 there's a thread about light attacks

thats a thread about abusing light attacks to proc shieldbreaker.

light attacks are so cool that they deserve their own thread imo

caeliusstarbreaker

lao wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

@lao https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/391965/the-problem-with-shieldbreaker/p1 there's a thread about light attacks

thats a thread about abusing light attacks to proc shieldbreaker.

light attacks are so cool that they deserve their own thread imo

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392045/official-best-light-attacks-na-eu#latest

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