Stamplar open world setups

NoFlash

What sets would work with stamplar that's medium and that's heavy. I feel like stamplar needs medium for that cost reduction. Can any stamplar players give out any tips or tricks or be successful solo or small group.

Methariorn

The few time I bring my stamplar in pvp I run 2H/DW with 5 bone pirate 5 ravager (dw) and TK. If you have access to malestorm 2h use it. Jabs will be on DW to proc ravager bonus. You can set your jewels glyph to suit your play style belancing wep damage/stamina recovery.

Trashs1

Methariorn wrote: »

The few time I bring my stamplar in pvp I run 2H/DW with 5 bone pirate 5 ravager (dw) and TK. If you have access to malestorm 2h use it. Jabs will be on DW to proc ravager bonus. You can set your jewels glyph to suit your play style belancing wep damage/stamina recovery.

thats the so called meta setup and works well

there are alot more builds vaible thoo look at yt for kirsten for eg

Biro123

I'm no stamplar expert, but I quite like the mobility that comes with ravager/cowards(backbar) s+b/2-h at the mo but keep thinking of trying dw/2h instead.

NoFlash

I'll need to start farming

Trashs1

Biro123 wrote: »

I'm no stamplar expert, but I quite like the mobility that comes with ravager/cowards(backbar) s+b/2-h at the mo but keep thinking of trying dw/2h instead.

ill tried also 2h/snb and dmg difference to dw is marginal (almost only bloodcraze)

what does 2h offer is the posibility to do potl->stampede->dizzy->jabs->executioner ... what worked quite well.

if u stray a db or something in your target, if dizzy did land, is dead. 100%

what i like on dw is swift cloak... that skill saves lifes when u find yourself in the middle of an eye of noobs/deto grp quite well and i do like the run speed also

so imho

2h/snb for battlegrounds dw/2h in cryo

Methariorn

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

NoFlash

for open world i thought about snb and 2h for the defile from snb plus major fracture or whatever

Trashs1

or in other words: do what suits your playstyle at best... all combos are vaible as long u have a source of mayor brutality

John_1999

7th legion + 5xViper DW frontbar+ optional monsterset
2H Backbar

gabormezo

I'm thinking on to try snb front 2h back, like Alcast build, but with ravager/brass or impreg. Makes sense because stamplar has a viable spamable to be pairded with snb, while you're above resist cap on your main damage bar. Looks so good on paper. Gonna try soon (I'm kinda new to stamplar pvp).

lao

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

BroanBeast1215

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

Lord_Zele

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

Don't forget about that DW Shrouded Dagger ability that gives brutality.
Rally is overall better though.
1. Heal Over Time with a Built up Burst Heal
2. Don't need a target to use it on.

I have seen some DW/resto staff Stamplars that use resto ult but have that shrouded dagger as their sources of major brutality. It's so weird though imo.

lao

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

thats the point. if you run heavy you also run 2h. you use forward momentum tho. you only run rally on medium armor builds that have access to shuffle. using ritual to cleanse snares is stupid cos you will get instantly snared again and after 3 cleanses your oom on a stam build and then you just die. you use ritual to cleanse defile and pretty much only that on a stam build.

Qbiken

5 Pelinial
5 Prisoner
2 Kena

Go werewolf

Tharok

I've been running the ravager/bone pirate dw/2h and it's really good and seems to fit my brawler playstyle well.
I did got completely melted by stamplars running medium armor though and I want to give it a go.

Can anyone share some nice medium armor setups? There's seems to be a few options which I think it's great.

TCervantes

Tharok wrote: »

I've been running the ravager/bone pirate dw/2h and it's really good and seems to fit my brawler playstyle well.
I did got completely melted by stamplars running medium armor though and I want to give it a go.

Can anyone share some nice medium armor setups? There's seems to be a few options which I think it's great.

I run DW/2H setup, with 5 automatons and 5 ravaging. The Monster set it's a flex spot. I run slimecraw for group play and engine Guardian for solo.

Well, but also can do 5 medium/2 heavy with bone pirate and ravager

gabormezo

gabormezo wrote: »

I'm thinking on to try snb front 2h back, like Alcast build, but with ravager/brass or impreg. Makes sense because stamplar has a viable spamable to be pairded with snb, while you're above resist cap on your main damage bar. Looks so good on paper. Gonna try soon (I'm kinda new to stamplar pvp).

I've tried, but unfortunately the damage was too low, imho. So, after tried all of the mentioned options, I got back to DW/2H. Rally is too good tomiss on a stamplar, and I find quick cloak as a must esp. in BGs.

I'm thinking on vamp? Should it stay or should it go? Opinions?

Trashs1

gabormezo wrote: »

gabormezo wrote: »

I'm thinking on to try snb front 2h back, like Alcast build, but with ravager/brass or impreg. Makes sense because stamplar has a viable spamable to be pairded with snb, while you're above resist cap on your main damage bar. Looks so good on paper. Gonna try soon (I'm kinda new to stamplar pvp).

I've tried, but unfortunately the damage was too low, imho. So, after tried all of the mentioned options, I got back to DW/2H. Rally is too good tomiss on a stamplar, and I find quick cloak as a must esp. in BGs.

I'm thinking on vamp? Should it stay or should it go? Opinions?

my stamplar is not a vamp.. im also using trollking

Unstable.Pixel

Started running Automaton, Bone Pirate, Blood Spawn and having a good time with Stamplar in medium.

BroanBeast1215

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

thats the point. if you run heavy you also run 2h. you use forward momentum tho. you only run rally on medium armor builds that have access to shuffle. using ritual to cleanse snares is stupid cos you will get instantly snared again and after 3 cleanses your oom on a stam build and then you just die. you use ritual to cleanse defile and pretty much only that on a stam build.

ahh.. I see. I play with medium armor so that didn't* occur to me

lao

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

thats the point. if you run heavy you also run 2h. you use forward momentum tho. you only run rally on medium armor builds that have access to shuffle. using ritual to cleanse snares is stupid cos you will get instantly snared again and after 3 cleanses your oom on a stam build and then you just die. you use ritual to cleanse defile and pretty much only that on a stam build.

ahh.. I see. I play with medium armor so that didn't* occur to me

tbh on templar (or any class that has a solid burst heal from class skills id even consider to run f. momentum with medium cos its much cheaper than shuffle and gives longer immunity and also adds a little HoT that can help negate some of the DoT´s ppl throw at you.(hi2u magDK) id still probably run shuffle for the evade tho.

Lexxypwns

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

thats the point. if you run heavy you also run 2h. you use forward momentum tho. you only run rally on medium armor builds that have access to shuffle. using ritual to cleanse snares is stupid cos you will get instantly snared again and after 3 cleanses your oom on a stam build and then you just die. you use ritual to cleanse defile and pretty much only that on a stam build.

ahh.. I see. I play with medium armor so that didn't* occur to me

tbh on templar (or any class that has a solid burst heal from class skills id even consider to run f. momentum with medium cos its much cheaper than shuffle and gives longer immunity and also adds a little HoT that can help negate some of the DoT´s ppl throw at you.(hi2u magDK) id still probably run shuffle for the evade tho.

What burst heal does stamplar have aside from Rally?

lao

Lexxypwns wrote: »

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

thats the point. if you run heavy you also run 2h. you use forward momentum tho. you only run rally on medium armor builds that have access to shuffle. using ritual to cleanse snares is stupid cos you will get instantly snared again and after 3 cleanses your oom on a stam build and then you just die. you use ritual to cleanse defile and pretty much only that on a stam build.

ahh.. I see. I play with medium armor so that didn't* occur to me

tbh on templar (or any class that has a solid burst heal from class skills id even consider to run f. momentum with medium cos its much cheaper than shuffle and gives longer immunity and also adds a little HoT that can help negate some of the DoT´s ppl throw at you.(hi2u magDK) id still probably run shuffle for the evade tho.

What burst heal does stamplar have aside from Rally?

honor the dead is not a burst heal anymore? i havent played templar in ages so if they changed that i must have missed that.

Lexxypwns

lao wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

thats the point. if you run heavy you also run 2h. you use forward momentum tho. you only run rally on medium armor builds that have access to shuffle. using ritual to cleanse snares is stupid cos you will get instantly snared again and after 3 cleanses your oom on a stam build and then you just die. you use ritual to cleanse defile and pretty much only that on a stam build.

ahh.. I see. I play with medium armor so that didn't* occur to me

tbh on templar (or any class that has a solid burst heal from class skills id even consider to run f. momentum with medium cos its much cheaper than shuffle and gives longer immunity and also adds a little HoT that can help negate some of the DoT´s ppl throw at you.(hi2u magDK) id still probably run shuffle for the evade tho.

What burst heal does stamplar have aside from Rally?

honor the dead is not a burst heal anymore? i havent played templar in ages so if they changed that i must have missed that.

Not on a stamina Templar it isn’t, it’s never been usable on stamplar at all

lao

Lexxypwns wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

thats the point. if you run heavy you also run 2h. you use forward momentum tho. you only run rally on medium armor builds that have access to shuffle. using ritual to cleanse snares is stupid cos you will get instantly snared again and after 3 cleanses your oom on a stam build and then you just die. you use ritual to cleanse defile and pretty much only that on a stam build.

ahh.. I see. I play with medium armor so that didn't* occur to me

tbh on templar (or any class that has a solid burst heal from class skills id even consider to run f. momentum with medium cos its much cheaper than shuffle and gives longer immunity and also adds a little HoT that can help negate some of the DoT´s ppl throw at you.(hi2u magDK) id still probably run shuffle for the evade tho.

What burst heal does stamplar have aside from Rally?

honor the dead is not a burst heal anymore? i havent played templar in ages so if they changed that i must have missed that.

Not on a stamina Templar it isn’t, it’s never been usable on stamplar at all

you may be right. tho with triglyphs+undaunted it might get strong enough to get you out of execute range and thats all a burst heal is for anyway but yeah rally is probably better in this scenario.

Firstmep

lao wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

thats the point. if you run heavy you also run 2h. you use forward momentum tho. you only run rally on medium armor builds that have access to shuffle. using ritual to cleanse snares is stupid cos you will get instantly snared again and after 3 cleanses your oom on a stam build and then you just die. you use ritual to cleanse defile and pretty much only that on a stam build.

ahh.. I see. I play with medium armor so that didn't* occur to me

tbh on templar (or any class that has a solid burst heal from class skills id even consider to run f. momentum with medium cos its much cheaper than shuffle and gives longer immunity and also adds a little HoT that can help negate some of the DoT´s ppl throw at you.(hi2u magDK) id still probably run shuffle for the evade tho.

What burst heal does stamplar have aside from Rally?

honor the dead is not a burst heal anymore? i havent played templar in ages so if they changed that i must have missed that.

Not on a stamina Templar it isn’t, it’s never been usable on stamplar at all

you may be right. tho with triglyphs+undaunted it might get strong enough to get you out of execute range and thats all a burst heal is for anyway but yeah rally is probably better in this scenario.

As someone who was tried pretty much every possible gear combos to make Honor the dead work on stamplar i can tell you its next to impossible.
Back before trainne was nerfed you could pair it up with pelinals for a decentish hybrid,but since then zos has been careful to only put hybrid stats on crafted gear to force ppl to specialize.
Its sad cuz I see all these heavy armor stamdens running forward momentum and still have a potent burst heal,one of.the things that makes them the best stam class atm.
Ive tried heavy armor with Fm and i think for dueling specifically i prefer it over med, mainly beacuse of all the sword and board heroic slash spamming heroes out there, but for open world you have to play defensive too often, since you can recover from high burst. One set ive been trying is the rangers gait set, you can defo notice the reduction to snares especially the nasty ones. With the state of snares atm i cant see myself running shuffle on anything, its a massive stam drain as you pretty much have to spam it every 3 seconds just so you can move. I really wish they buffed the snare immunity duration to match forward momentum, its stupid that you can be more mobile in heavy with Fm.
Medium needs its mobility back.
On topic, any combination of bone pirate bloodspawn and damage set works relatively well, bone pirate gives you decent recovery and a good base stam pool to use, bloodspawn is just overall amazing. Depending on your race and your 3rd set you might have.to run some tryglyphs to get your hp to a comfortable level.
I know a guys who runs premade bgs a lot and he uses brass and auto, he is very tanky although his damage is a bit lowish for my taste.

NoFlash

I've tried 5 bone pirate and 5 Rav and it feels weak. 5k weapon damage fully buffed, 2k Stam recovery. 33k Stam. Orc. 5 medium 2 heavy. It felt like opponents melted faster when i used 5 hundings 5 sprig . Fully buffed I was like 37k Stam 1.6 recovery and 4500 give or take. Dw , 2h for both set ups. Anyone have insight?
1st combo 43%crit with jabs, 2nd 56 or 66% cri with jabs.

1 kragh 1 Domi for both.

Edit to new people reading this thread: the crit was what help melt people

RighteousBacon

lao wrote: »

BroanBeast1215 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Methariorn wrote: »

2H is BiS for Rally as well: since stamplar got access to purge via ritual you can pick rally over forward m. even in heavy.

and use a 3705 mana ability on a stam toon just to remove snares without getting any immunity at all while playing a class that has access to better direct heals than rally via class skills?

are you crazy?

but who was determents or damage-over-time? lol

also if you don't run a 2h who was major brutality?

thats the point. if you run heavy you also run 2h. you use forward momentum tho. you only run rally on medium armor builds that have access to shuffle. using ritual to cleanse snares is stupid cos you will get instantly snared again and after 3 cleanses your oom on a stam build and then you just die. you use ritual to cleanse defile and pretty much only that on a stam build.

Unless you run a set like prisoners rags that gives you just under 1000 magicka every one second while sprinting. This plus channeled focus equals lots of purify spam. You just can’t really fight talons spamming Dks tbh. Oh and prisoner’s rags reduces cost of sprint by 50% too.

DosPanchos

EvoAZN wrote: »

I've tried 5 bone pirate and 5 Rav and it feels weak. 5k weapon damage fully buffed, 2k Stam recovery. 33k Stam. Orc. 5 medium 2 heavy. It felt like opponents melted faster when i used 5 hundings 5 sprig . Fully buffed I was like 37k Stam 1.6 recovery and 4500 give or take. Dw , 2h for both set ups. Anyone have insight?
1st combo 43%crit with jabs, 2nd 56 or 66% cri with jabs.

1 kragh 1 Domi for both.

Im guessing there are definitely better sets for melting opponents, as you've found, but my experience with stamplar is best with max resources (bp) and max damage (ravager) in order to benefit myself as well as my team ( I also run TK). This is a very powerful setup bc it fits my bruiser playstyle. (Also running 5h 2m).

If you're finding an alternative that suits your playstyle better I'd do that... if it's melting opponents then you might try automatons as well and even Selene's...