Top 10 Worst Sets

JackDaniell

Oh yeah another top 10 for ESO! Were looking at the most useless sets in the game and talking about why they are so bad. If you guys think I missed any sets or have build ideas for these bad sets please share them! Enjoy everyone!

https://youtu.be/-TJzcFzuMn0

Sixty5

The only real use for most of those sets is deconstruction fodder.

DoctorESO

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Nemesis7884

i think it's a shame and i REALLY wished they would just dedicate one intern over there to go over the not used sets and come up with some improvements - cause i really think a lot of these sets have potential and could become really cool with some minor adjustments

for example - ice furnace; just change the weapon damage to spell damage and the direct attack to any frost attack (and maybe adjust values or give a cooldown) and it would become a cool idea and a decent set

It really doesn't take that much...

I am also very said about the absolutly useless crusader set cause it has such a cool name #sadface - you could for example change it to "after using a charge ability your weapon damage is increased by x for y seconds ...that would fit well with a "crusader" theme

Tasear

Damage shield sets where broken when they fixed shields timer.

Gladiator is very fun on werewolf. Especially good to level up.

Spelunker Set - xD that's easy this stamina healer set. You could use undaunted skills for support to make such a build and 5 piece would return resources m

* You are wrong at this time cool down is 20 secs Though after next patch it's 30 secs.

This another reason why synergy cool down increase is a bad idea.

@ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno

Tasear

P.S

Lunar bastion should make the list

Rohamad_Ali

LOL

@Wrobel should show off at least one build with one of those sets . Hatchlings Shell lel ..

Jarryzzt

1. He really should have entitled this "worst 5-piece set bonuses", not "worst sets". Some of these things are perfectly fine as secondary sets once you have your primary 5-piece in (in those cases where you can't run 5/5 or 5/3/2/1 or what have you). He, in fact, says as much - his complaint in almost every case is with the 5-bonus.

2. It's interesting how many heavy armour sets made the list. Proportionately speaking.

3. One common complaint of his is not about how the 5-bonus works per se, but rather the actual amount of buff/shield/damage/healing. Which is mostly not an invalid point of view, except that, presumably, ZOS did not pull these values out of thin air but rather based on some testing, benchmarking, balancing, et cetera. In other words, they seem to feel the numbers are what they are supposed to be (or else they would change them) - unless one assumes that they do no testing, server stats analysis, whatever else, which is a pretty grim assumption to make.

In other words, it is an interesting position to take - this is an awful set because the buff/shield/damage/healing number ZOS gave it is not what I think it ought to be.

4. Plenty of sets - non-heavy armoured ones, naturally - left off the list that arguably have equally bad or worse 5-bonuses. Defiler, for example, which drops just everywhere in Morrowind and is...atmospheric but not especially useful in an actual fight. And then there's Sithis' Touch, which I just do not understand. As just two for-instances.

I'm not even mentioning certain sets where the overall direction, before you get to the 5-bonus, feels...let's call it nonstandard. Like the two Undaunted ones, magicka on medium armour and stamina on light and...all for the sake of buffing LA/HA damage. Let us just suppose there are hybrid builds out there that make stuff like this work.

5. His explanation for the jewelry sets he brought in felt weak. Why, why is spell power + crit (that's the one he mentioned, right?) weaker than spell power + magicka? I distinctly recall a lengthy post (on another forum) by one Asayre that went through the maths of it and the relationship between them is somewhat complex (or used to be, at least), which necessarily means one is not obviously worse than the other.

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TLDR - catchy and not necessarily wrong. But...sort of narrow in scope. I suppose I expected something more in-depth than simply saying "I think this 5-piece bonus sucks" ten (eleven!)(well, technically nine...) times in a row.

ccfeeling

Keep them worse .
If old sets are buffed , it may affect the DLC selling volume .

Tasear

Jarryzzt wrote: »

1. He really should have entitled this "worst 5-piece set bonuses", not "worst sets". Some of these things are perfectly fine as secondary sets once you have your primary 5-piece in (in those cases where you can't run 5/5 or 5/3/2/1 or what have you). He, in fact, says as much - his complaint in almost every case is with the 5-bonus.

2. It's interesting how many heavy armour sets made the list. Proportionately speaking.

3. One common complaint of his is not about how the 5-bonus works per se, but rather the actual amount of buff/shield/damage/healing. Which is mostly not an invalid point of view, except that, presumably, ZOS did not pull these values out of thin air but rather based on some testing, benchmarking, balancing, et cetera. In other words, they seem to feel the numbers are what they are supposed to be (or else they would change them) - unless one assumes that they do no testing, server stats analysis, whatever else, which is a pretty grim assumption to make.

In other words, it is an interesting position to take - this is an awful set because the buff/shield/damage/healing number ZOS gave it is not what I think it ought to be.

4. Plenty of sets - non-heavy armoured ones, naturally - left off the list that arguably have equally bad or worse 5-bonuses. Defiler, for example, which drops just everywhere in Morrowind and is...atmospheric but not especially useful in an actual fight. And then there's Sithis' Touch, which I just do not understand. As just two for-instances.

I'm not even mentioning certain sets where the overall direction, before you get to the 5-bonus, feels...let's call it nonstandard. Like the two Undaunted ones, magicka on medium armour and stamina on light and...all for the sake of buffing LA/HA damage. Let us just suppose there are hybrid builds out there that make stuff like this work.

5. His explanation for the jewelry sets he brought in felt weak. Why, why is spell power + crit (that's the one he mentioned, right?) weaker than spell power + magicka? I distinctly recall a lengthy post (on another forum) by one Asayre that went through the maths of it and the relationship between them is somewhat complex (or used to be, at least), which necessarily means one is not obviously worse than the other.

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TLDR - catchy and not necessarily wrong. But...sort of narrow in scope. I suppose I expected something more in-depth than simply saying "I think this 5-piece bonus sucks" ten (eleven!)(well, technically nine...) times in a row.

Hmm yes but maybe such sets were at one point too powerful and then altered, but then another event happens and these sets become relics.

Dracane

Not all sets are supposed to be super usefull or popular. They just want to offer lots of variety and options.
It's much worse when there are still many useless abilities and even less usefull morphs that are outshined by the other.

Tasear

Dracane wrote: »

Not all sets are supposed to be super usefull or popular. They just want to offer lots of variety and options.
It's much worse when there are still many useless abilities and even less usefull morphs that are outshined by the other.

True most things have a use. Just have to make sure or well judge if it's working as intended still. Like stendarr for awhile nobody used because looked like only could debuff an Ally ever 30, but tooltip was updated to any ally not on cool down every 30 secs.

Dracane

Tasear wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Not all sets are supposed to be super usefull or popular. They just want to offer lots of variety and options.
It's much worse when there are still many useless abilities and even less usefull morphs that are outshined by the other.

True most things have a use. Just have to make sure or well judge if it's working as intended still. Like stendarr for awhile nobody used because looked like only could debuff an Ally ever 30, but tooltip was updated to any ally not on cool down every 30 secs.

It's safe to say, that each set has some niche use in very certain situations.
However, they are not meta friendly. Which I guess is what people judge on (I did not watch the video)

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Could someone list the sets in the video for those of us at work?

Ragnarock41

I would add black rose to that list.

I mean its my favourite garbage set.

Tasear

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

I would add black rose to that list.

I mean its my favourite garbage set.

Not for tanks.

Lord_Eomer

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

I would add black rose to that list.

I mean its my favourite garbage set.

I sold its sharpen 1h for lile 100k (PC NA)

Tasear

Dracane wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Not all sets are supposed to be super usefull or popular. They just want to offer lots of variety and options.
It's much worse when there are still many useless abilities and even less usefull morphs that are outshined by the other.

True most things have a use. Just have to make sure or well judge if it's working as intended still. Like stendarr for awhile nobody used because looked like only could debuff an Ally ever 30, but tooltip was updated to any ally not on cool down every 30 secs.

It's safe to say, that each set has some niche use in very certain situations.
However, they are not meta friendly. Which I guess is what people judge on (I did not watch the video)

But they can fall out of their niches. For instance all synergy sets have to be re-evaluated with increase cool down by developers and users afterwards.

Ragnarock41

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

I would add black rose to that list.

I mean its my favourite garbage set.

I sold its sharpen 1h for lile 100k (PC NA)

one man's trash is another man's treasure I guess.
I would pay no more than 5k for any black rose piece. no matter how rare it is. the set itself is bad.

Llyn.Quennel

Summation of the sets for people:

10. Glorious Defender - Heavy Maelstrom Dropped

9. Hatchling Shell - Heavy Shadowfen Dropped

8. Buffer of the Swift - Light Cyrodiil Dropped

7. Ashen Grip - Crafted

6. Kvatch Gladiator - Crafted

5. Shalidor's Curse - Crafted

4. Oblivion's Foe - Crafted

3. Immortal Warrior - Sanctum Ophidia Heavy Dropped

2. Deadly Strike - 3pc. Stamina Weapons + Jewelry, PVP reward
2. Imperial Wrath - 3pc. Magicka Weapons + Jewelry, Cyrodiil Dropped

1. Spelunker's - Medium Spindleclutch Dropped

Lexxypwns

1-10: Bone Pirate - doesn’t work

zaria

Lexxypwns wrote: »

1-10: Bone Pirate - doesn’t work

It does not?

SydneyGrey

Flanking set.
I deconstruct it immediately. Just not worth it.

Ragged_Claw

I used to use Ashen Grip, Oblivion's Foe and Shalidor's back at the beginning. Thank Jone and Jode for online guides or I'd still be wondering why I was only doing 2k damage max

Sting864

JackDaniell wrote: »

Oh yeah another top 10 for ESO! Were looking at the most useless sets in the game and talking about why they are so bad. If you guys think I missed any sets or have build ideas for these bad sets please share them! Enjoy everyone!

No such thing as best or worst sets... There may be "Best" or "Worst" sets with another qualifier, such as "Best Magicka Regeneration" sets.... It depends on specific playstyles...

MalakithAlamahdi

Even funnier is that the 5th piece of Hatchlings Shell will pretty much become a passive after the next update.

MalakithAlamahdi

zaria wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

1-10: Bone Pirate - doesn’t work

It does not?

I believe it's bugged when it comes to buffing up your damage. So you'll get the extra stamina but not the damage you'd usually get for that stamina increase. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Lexxypwns

MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

1-10: Bone Pirate - doesn’t work

It does not?

I believe it's bugged when it comes to buffing up your damage. So you'll get the extra stamina but not the damage you'd usually get for that stamina increase. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

It’s buffed and doesn’t boost damage and stamina regen is also bugged in a way that encourages you not to go over ~1600 stam recovery

goldenarcher1

I'm determined to make this work...somehow.

OrdoHermetica

goldenarcher1 wrote: »

I'm determined to make this work...somehow.

Werewolves. That's how you make it work. It's legitimately pretty good for werewolves, since they don't have an execute ability while transformed.