RIP Xivkyn face

SirMewser · January 2018

Okay fine ZoS;
I'll allow you to remove my cosmetic features.
I'll accept that I wasted money and time in IC to get the cosmetics.
I'll stop wearing Xivkyn polymorphs.
I'll not purchase future content in fear that you will change the cosmetics that were my motives in the first place.
Just don't think I'll blow 2'500 crowns to rename my soon to not have a Xivkyn face "Xivilai Lord".

Way to give me the middle finger.

DoctorESO · January 2018

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Osteos · January 2018

Bah! I have no expectation of them fixing it. Just like how you used to be able to see your characters eyes through helmets a feature I really enjoyed that they broke "fixing" something else and never brought back. I wouldn't hold your breath guys.

Girl_Number8 · January 2018

Ratzkifal wrote: »

ZOS will get that feature back, they just don't know how they want to do it yet. They said so in ESO live.

"they just don't know how they want to do it yet"

Yes, they seem to use this one alot but they sure know how to get those dlc's out.

geonsocal · January 2018

this sucks...no more hide helmet on the polymorphs - what about costumes???

zos killed the disguises in pvp, so I collected costumes and polymorphs...

the xivkyn face is awesome...

necr0o · January 2018

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Girl_Number8 · January 2018

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Eddyble · January 2018

But If they don’t break or inconvenience one aspect of the game, when trying to implement something new, how would we know it’s an “improvement?”

Tirps · January 2018

RIP xivkyn polymorphs, atleast we can still use Maelstrom Baron to rp daedra

Eddyble · January 2018

With the release of the Outfit basics article, it looks like they conveniently skipped over any documentation about how you cant hide helmet on polymorphs anymore. No other posted information I've seen seems to offer any other insight.

Upsetting how long it can take/took to acquire the various xivkyn morphs for nothing now. and the crown store purchased morphs like draugr now lose function...

I wonder how this will affect the crow morph released today...can anyone who purchased this confirm/post photos if hide helmet does anything on this morph?

Shawn_PT · January 2018

Just now that I picked up a random 1.5k TV box and got the last poly I was still missing. Can just hope this will be addressed in a timely manner because having a big pair of pointy horns was one of two reasons to wear these, the other being the voice. The armor look can be obtained with motifs if you were willing to give up your dropped gear.

I'll be enjoying my polys in the meantime.

Oh yeah and the poly size. I'm used to playing Nords. Slapped one on my Imperial and was kind of shocked how huge he suddenly became.

Apache_Kid · January 2018

Have they given an actual reason as to why the hide helmet is becoming a collectible instead of an option? This is like the one thing in the game that isn't actually broken and they are trying to mess with it. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

Eddyble · January 2018

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Have they given an actual reason as to why the hide helmet is becoming a collectible instead of an option? This is like the one thing in the game that isn't actually broken and they are trying to mess with it. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

There was some mention of it on ESO Live. Something something we made a new outfit system that isn't a costume but is a costume and broke polymorphs we also had to remove and relocate hide helmet but there's 2 hide helmets now dodo. I'm paraphrasing.

That having been said, the outfit system idea is cool but it feels like its implementation was overcomplicated and unnecessarily broke other things.

Apache_Kid · January 2018

Eddyble wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Have they given an actual reason as to why the hide helmet is becoming a collectible instead of an option? This is like the one thing in the game that isn't actually broken and they are trying to mess with it. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

There was some mention of it on ESO Live. Something something we made a new outfit system that isn't a costume but is a costume and broke polymorphs we also had to remove and relocate hide helmet but there's 2 hide helmets now dodo. I'm paraphrasing.

That having been said, the outfit system idea is cool but it feels like its implementation was overcomplicated and unnecessarily broke other things.

If you can't implement new systems without breaking your old ones then you have spaghetti code. That is literally the exact definition loooooool.

Acrolas · January 2018

They didn't break anything though. Moving miscellaneous gameplay settings into systems is a beneficial move, and the core conflict with polymorphs is that some have removable headwear but some don't. If they don't want poly heads that can be completely removed, then it's better to freeze the option until they can individually process each one's style behavior.

ParaNostram · January 2018

There's no reason not to keep the old hide helm system and it's atrocious what they did. Like they literally took the extra effort to take a feature and make it LESS ACCESSIBLE to players. Like why @ZOS?

Eddyble · January 2018

Acrolas wrote: »

They didn't break anything though. Moving miscellaneous gameplay settings into systems is a beneficial move, and the core conflict with polymorphs is that some have removable headwear but some don't. If they don't want poly heads that can be completely removed, then it's better to freeze the option until they can individually process each one's style behavior.

Well as far as I know, something that was working and now is no longer working, is the definition of broken.

Moving the setting to another area, cool, sure, no problem, I'm all for standardization in many cases, but it not working on things that it used to is the problem. Which to me means the system could have been implemented in a better way.

Freezing something's functionality, again OK, sure no problem. But there's no mention of it in their official documentation nor mention of a projected correction time period let alone the correction itself. And keep in mind, yes there have been some exceptions, but how often do they go back and repair these aesthetic things? I'm guessing its not going to be high on the list if at all.

altemriel · January 2018

ThePrinceOfBargains wrote: »

That’s such a pain in the ass. I hate when they do stupid, unnecessary crap like this. The thing that was great about the hide helmet function being in game options is that on PC, you could set a toggle for it with add ons. Anytime I wanted to wear or remove headgear, I could do so. Even without the add on, I could still click it on/off anywhere in options. What now? Every time I want to hide helmet, I have to go to an Outfit Station? And now I outright can’t with polymorphs? Get the hell out of here with that.

yes, this is really non-sense that ZOS wants to remove the option to hide helmet from the setting menu, that just does not make any sense!!!

pls revert this decision ZOS!!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert

badmojo · February 2018

Logging into this was a pleasant surprise...

Jura23 · February 2018

badmojo wrote: »

Logging into this was a pleasant surprise...

so how does it work? do you remmove helmet on polys from collectibles or outfit station?

VaranisArano · February 2018

Excellent! I'm glad ZOS figured out how to keep the polymorph faces!

badmojo · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

Logging into this was a pleasant surprise...

so how does it work? do you remmove helmet on polys from collectibles or outfit station?

Testing on another character (just in case) it seems like they removed the helmet from the polymorph. I couldn't find any way to put it on. I'm glad they did something.

Jura23 · February 2018

badmojo wrote: »

Jura23 wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

Logging into this was a pleasant surprise...

so how does it work? do you remmove helmet on polys from collectibles or outfit station?

Testing on another character (just in case) it seems like they removed the helmet from the polymorph. I couldn't find any way to put it on. I'm glad they did something.

Yeah, that's better than nothing. But I'd like to hear from more ppl, because maybe it stayed this way for you because you already had the helmet hidden before update and it just didn't flip back for some reason.

Eddyble · February 2018

Based on information on another thread and in patch notes, it seems in the settings where hide helmet was, it is now hide polymorph helmet. regular hide helmet is now a collectible. and none of them work on disguises atm. Still, glad I can keep my xivkyn's beautiful face.

CardboardedBox · February 2018

Any word on how the goblin gem is affected? Im on ps4 so I don't have the update yet.

BigBadVolk · February 2018

btw dont know if anyone spotted, but in the gameplay section the hide helmet option is replaced with hide polymorph helmet option

Jura23 · February 2018

BigBadVolk wrote: »

btw dont know if anyone spotted, but in the gameplay section the hide helmet option is replaced with hide polymorph helmet option

thank Zenithar

geosto1b16_ESO2 · February 2018

this is all about "do i look good in this", this is not an outlet for "outfits are us", its a game of beat the crap out of each other, what you look like is way way down my list

Jura23 · February 2018

geosto1b16_ESO2 wrote: »

beat the crap out of each other

If the game was just about this, it would be not worth playing, we can do this on the streets too.

This is fantasy RPG above all.

geosto1b16_ESO2 · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

geosto1b16_ESO2 wrote: »

beat the crap out of each other

If the game was just about this, it would be not worth playing, we can do this on the streets too.

This is fantasy RPG above all.

tell that to the multitude of other players who are more concerned with dps values than outfits